Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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So you have something like "Feira", where farmers get together near urban areas to sell natural stuff, fruits, cheese, meat, all stuff that they produce is sold directly by the farmer to you, without being sold in a supermarket/grocery store.

Here it happens 3 times a week, so you get fresh stuff always (yesterday bought some bananas and oranges)

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You dont need to go to the farmers, the farmers come to you, and it is so walkable that even if you buy lots of stuff, you would have a special cart to store and pull it back home

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This is common in the whole country, you have set dates and it happens for centuries already.
You mean like, a fucking farmers market? Every fucking small town in America has obe, and you dont have to be worry about being kidnapped and held for ransom, or getting Cholera at ours. Fuck of techtiquanigger
 
I don't care to discuss the topic of breads and meats - these can be locally sourced at variable levels and in food deserts not at all. America has, inarguably, a disproportionate imbalance of access to these things.

Real cheese? Cheese I will tell you right now is something America has a lot of. Too much of.

For starters, we'll look at revenue. The dollar is fake but we're stuck playing by its rules, and as a result if we look at it within its rules, the market size revenue of the dairy product production industry (cheeses, yogurts, milk) was estimated at $163,000,000,000 in 2022. For comparison, U.S. hospitals and the entire drug, cosmetic, and toiletry industries (over-the-counter medicines, skin creams, tampons - these are all lumped together as general pharmaceuticals) combined made an estimated $1,800,000,000 in 2023. In the span of a year amidst the vaxx boom, Big Pharma made 11% the yearly revenue of Big Dairy.

That is too incomprehensibly large a number to spoof when it is also confirmed 41% (heh) land in the United States is used for raising cows. How much of those cows do we eat? Harder to determine due to our distribution for meat not being incentivized the same way dairy products are.

That's my next point - incentivization of production. The United States Government specifically incentivizes, rewards, and aids anyone attempting to produce dairy products, especially cheese. This is done through grants and subsidies among other things, as part of a plan established back in the post-Depression era to make sure Americans would not potentially starve to death, as cheese is theoretically easy to produce and maintain. As a result of consumer preference, there was a rise in demands for different cheeses - which were all still incentivized, and combine that with the growing melting pot as Europeans left their ruinous home countries in hopes of having roofs over their heads after the second World War and this resulted in grassroots production of authentic European cheeses with "home country" recipes. Munster, gouda, parmigiano, you name it. This was further augmented by, of all people, Reagan with the Agriculture and Food Act of 1981 which specifically kicked the process into overdrive.

So we have cheese that is incentivized to be made, in different styles as pushed by consumers, in supply by immigrants seeking business in the U.S. going for what can immediately cover them through grants in sbusidies. This means a lot of cheese is being made? How much cheese is being made?

More than we can fucking eat. At any point a standing president can give the order and every American man, woman, and child can be supplied effectively 2lbs of cheese every day for a year and still have enough of a reserve to prevent a total stoppage and ruin exports (And yes, we have so much that we export a lot of excess purely because we don't have space).

And that's the last point, space. We have physical evidence of access to real cheese via the fact we have so goddamn much we don't know where to put it in what would be described as "reasonable capacity." Instead, we store our billions of pounds of cheese in climate-controlled cave systems. The largest is the "Missouri Cheese Caves," also known as the Springfield Underground, which not only can you look up, you can sign up to tour around in!
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See all those pallets wrapped up tightly? Those hold cheese by the hundreds of pounds. There are several tons of cheese in this image alone, and this is just a fraction of the real estate underground.

Now, of course, there's the counterpoint of "Then why do we have cheese product!?"
Cheese product is literally that... it's a product of cheese. We have so goddamn much that even with exports, even with storing most of it underground, we still don't have enough space for the excess. So what the dairy industry does is melt that shit down and mix and emulsify it into a singular product - it's still cheese, it's just mixes of cheese, usually cheddar and mozzarella. Some add in fat specifically for culinary purposes. But it's the minority of all the goddamn cheese we have.

But why do we have so much goddamn cheese, aside from these factors?
Because in spite of the negrification of the United States, it's still ultimately a country built off of Anglo-Teutonic philosophy and culture, and the only thing more Anglo-Teutonic than schizophrenia and fursonas is cheese.
 
I remember you already brought this up on a MATI at some point earlier this year and you got absolutely BTFO by the chat. Keep seething lol.
 
The problem is that you guys refuse to use, instead choosing to drive to fucksville to buy potatos from wallmart.
Well, yes. The Farmer's market is for 2 hours on Sunday, WalMart is open 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.

The nearest town to me of 10,000(ish) has a WalMart, Kroger, Albertsons, Local Chain and an Organic Grocery. All, except WalMart have an actual cheese selection.

Of course, nearest town still means a 20 minute drive.
 
I'm not saying I don't walk around, I do pretty frequently depending on the weather, but it's undeniable that having the ability to get up and go wherever the hell you want is objectively a plus. I cannot fathom the mental cuckery Euros are subject to in order to think it's somehow a bad thing
But they're able to travel and see/do a lot of things on foot, or by bus/tram/train without the need to buy and upkeep a relatively expensive (when comparing to personal purchases) a car. Don't get me wrong, I need a car to get anywhere, and the reason why isn't some conspiracy by the oil companies, but I actually like to travel on foot and not worry about my vehicle too.

The problem is a lot of Europeans are apparently REALLY bad at geography and can't look at the USA on the map and realize that maybe things aren't as close together in a country almost as large as their continent.

Outside of Texas, California, and New York, Las Vegas, and the Grand Canyon, America is a HUUUUUUGE mystery to Europeans despite their strong opinions about the country. They simply do not understand that their anti-car attitude is absolutely unsustainable in the USA and life would be next to impossible.
 
So you have something like "Feira", where farmers get together near urban areas to sell natural stuff, fruits, cheese, meat, all stuff that they produce is sold directly by the farmer to you, without being sold in a supermarket/grocery store.

Here it happens 3 times a week, so you get fresh stuff always (yesterday bought some bananas and oranges)

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You dont need to go to the farmers, the farmers come to you, and it is so walkable that even if you buy lots of stuff, you would have a special cart to store and pull it back home

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This is common in the whole country, you have set dates and it happens for centuries already.
Probably not nearly that size, but yea that is pretty much it. Pretty much have one each day of the week if you want to expand your travel radius.
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Nah, I agree. There has got to be something wrong with our food.

Half the time I feel like shit when I eat, even if its something that is supposed to be healthy.
And everyone is fucking mentally ill. Like its not normal and if its just a chemical imbalence like bigpharma would have you believe, why is a sizeable chunk of the population afflicted with these issues. I'm not even talking about the pampered kids on tiktok pretending to have mental health problems. Im talking about like, you go outside and a good chunk of the people you deal with are hostile all the time for no fucking reason. Where I live the streets are fucking littered with schizophrenic and bipolar homeless people with crippling drug addictions.

You are right, america is beyond fucked and I genuinely believe it has to do with our diets, not to mention everyone who is a brain dead bootlicker who lives their life according to religion their fucking political party.
big macs arent the reason why people are fucked in the head lmao
(social) media and politics are much much bigger culprits here

You're building a causal chain that isn't necessarily valid. Could it be possible that access has less to do with outcomes than the character of the people involved? That low IQ wiggers will make poor dietary choices regardless of where they live or how close by a decent grocer is located? You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
you're talking to a person who considers $100 a month for a car an insurmountable financial challenge, so most likely unemployed
 
This thread reminds me of when the Soviet Union flew spy planes over America, and they genuinely couldn't believe how much farmland we had. Same with when one of their leaders went to one our stores, and immediately realized how outclassed, and utterly doomed the USSR was simply because we didn't have empty shelves like them.

America has more farmland than most European countries have landmass. Do you honestly think we're not using it to make good shit?

Die mad, Europoors.
 
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Cheese: The US is one of the largest manufacturers of cheese per capita in the world, even though most of our cheese comes from only two states, Wisconsin and California.
While New York State is way down there in the actual numbers, I think it deserves some credit for the exceedingly high quality of cheeses from there. Even if much of it is cheddar, it gives English cheddar a run for its money.
Real cheese? Cheese I will tell you right now is something America has a lot of. Too much of.
Like most stuff, we have too much bad cheese and not enough good cheese. But our good cheese is really, really good.

The solution to goyslop is not to consoom it.
 
My state is one of the smaller states in the US and it's still bigger than any European country. Having you ingrates lecture me about what's required to traverse my area is akin to you lecturing me about how I don't need guns because you retards killed all of your wildlife and think that the woods are empty.
 
Probably not nearly that size, but yea that is pretty much it. Pretty much have one each day of the week if you want to expand your travel radius.
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And many of them have food trucks, stalls from local restaurants, bands playing and even beer tents. All another strand of the vibrant, silky tapestry that is (white) American life. Although many will be closing down for the winter, so the Eurocopers can put that feather in their caps as they shiver in their unheated tenements this holiday season.
 
The problem is that you guys refuse to use, instead choosing to drive to fucksville to buy potatos from wallmart.
How the fuck woukd you know BeanNigger? You cone from a place so fuck8ng poor your people see fucking Mexico as a step up.
The problem is a lot of Europeans are apparently REALLY bad at geography and can't look at the USA on the map and realize that maybe things aren't as close together in a country almost as large as their continent.

Outside of Texas, California, and New York, Las Vegas, and the Grand Canyon, America is a HUUUUUUGE mystery to Europeans despite their strong opinions about the country. They simply do not understand that their anti-car attitude is absolutely unsustainable in the USA and life would be next to impossible.
Most eurofags unironically believe Germany, France or the U.K are each, individually, only a little smaller than the U.S.
 
I didn't realize the size of the US was a conspiracy by car companies. They really played the long game with the lousiana purchase
America is an oligarchy where laws and regulations are decided by whatever the biggest corporations want. So car companies, defense contractors, big meat producers, big name retailers and real estate companies, etc.
 
@stalkerchild

So you have something like "Feira", where farmers get together near urban areas to sell natural stuff, fruits, cheese, meat, all stuff that they produce is sold directly by the farmer to you, without being sold in a supermarket/grocery store.

Here it happens 3 times a week, so you get fresh stuff always (yesterday bought some bananas and oranges)

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You dont need to go to the farmers, the farmers come to you, and it is so walkable that even if you buy lots of stuff, you would have a special cart to store and pull it back home

View attachment 5460880

This is common in the whole country, you have set dates and it happens for centuries already.
Yes we have fucking farmers' markets. I can go to four or five villages within easy driving distance across the week and see my bread guy, my cider and beer guy, my meat guys, and a half dozen different produce guys.
Like most stuff, we have too much bad cheese and not enough good cheese. But our good cheese is really, really good.
It will make every Frenchfag on the site seethe, but the 1976 Judgement of Paris wine tasting showed that high-quality American products can stand toe-to-toe with the best of Europe. Napa Valley wines beat out French wines in multiple categories, and with a panel where 9 out of the 11 judges were French.
 
And many of them have food trucks, stalls from local restaurants, bands playing and even beer tents. All another strand of the vibrant, silky tapestry that is (white) American life. Although many will be closing down for the winter, so the Eurocopers can put that feather in their caps as they shiver in their unheated tenements this holiday season.
Food trucks cannot be underrated as an American way of serving food, and they are everywhere now. My last company would rent them out for events for our lunch.

And don't forget weekend beer festivals with beer holsters and local craft breweries. The nice thing about having winter is that they freeze over the place they hold the markets and open an ice rink. Then use the school gym for the markets.
 
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