Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[DumbDude43]

Ok but how the fuck are Krauts eating raw pork all the time and not constantly getting tapeworms. Does their pork just not have tapeworms or something?

there's legally mandated controls and inspections for signs of potential parasites (like trichinosis) in the meat when slaughtering animals that can carry them
i assume these burgerland food safety agencies that josh hates so much do similar things

 

[Look--an Alien!]

Raw Milk. People should be rioting of the fact they can't buy raw milk legally in the US they just don't realize what has been taken from them.
They argue "Ewww it could be dirty or contaminated!" But technology for milk harvesting has advanced so much you're not gonna really cross contaminate the milk if you do a halfway decent job of it.

As far as fresh bread goes. I need to get some yeast starter for sour dough. One thing I miss about California. Sour dough bread. That shit they had down there IDK if it was the water or what. I loved the flavor of it.

You absolutely can get raw milk pretty much anywhere in America. its called herdsharing, or farmsharing, or something similar--you pay however much for a percentage of the animal per year or quarter or month or week, and you get the milk in return; it isnt ILLEGAL like Null is stupidly suggesting, it is a fine way for smaller producers to sell unprocessed milk. USDA also has Grade A milk standards, which means you can sell raw milk in stores or anywhere else if you want to jump through the hoops.

This entire argument is so friggin stupid. This thread consists of city niggers trying to tell rural people that ZOMG IT CANT BE DONE!!!!1!!! when it happens 10,000x a day in every state of the union.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Internet memes have educated me that amerisharts are stinky poo poo "people" who can't get anything good. Memes never lie.

 

[BadGoy1488]

Not sure if it's been mentioned in this cluster fuck of a thread, but you retarded niggers know you can contact places like Sysco, Holt, and US Foods and get literally whatever you want? Have a restaurant you frequent? Ask the person who does the food order, he'll probably order it for you if you don't suck and are reliable.

It's asinine to me that this debate even needs 60 some odd pages. We live in the age of technology and next day delivery.....the fuck you mean US can't get meat or cheese?

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I forgot but doesn't Walmart have a deli section you can buy cheese in? The ones here do. If you're buying cheese from the dairy section in a store you're missing out. Loblaws have a section for cheese right next to their baked goods so you can get some long baguettes and one of the first places I go to for Piave cheese. I'm sure there's American grocery stores like it. I know Costco will have imported cheese.

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

Cheese is haram end of story

 

[Maricón de Mierda]

Anything a fat person says about food should be disregarded. Fat people simply do not realize how far away from the baseline human they are.

 

[Time 4 Guillotines]

@JamusActimus
It's the fancy stuff as far as my local Walmart tier goes.
As someone who doesn't eat bread very often I'm not overly concerned about added sugar in my ball of carbs but I would be curious what it tastes like without it.

Thread's been up barely a day and already its got 67 pages.
Is this really a sore spot for Americans?

For me, not the topic in particular because it's a dumbass ancient /pol/ "debate" but Josh is an American trying to act like a smug Eurofag who doesn't know any better just because he's sat in an apartment in some Post-soviet shit hole.
It's a nonsensical betrayal from one of our own.

 

[Rick's Beef Wellington]

Has anybody brought up that if you're not a coastal elite who has an Italian bakery/sandwich shop on every block that you probably do a lot of hunting and fishing? How does that work in Europe since you can't have guns, do you go out with your Muslim neighbors and throw acid in a deer's face?

 

[Nachos Bell Grande]

Thread's been up barely a day and already its got 67 pages.
Is this really a sore spot for Americans?

To me yes because I hear Eurofags bitch and moan constantly about how awful American food is and it's all processed and yadayada while they've never even left their shit hole village let alone the country and just parrot what they read on the internet cuz day hate evil fatty Americans so much

Food superiority was all Euros had over Americans and they cannot fucking accept that within the like 30 years of them making these jokes Americans adjusted. Pretty much every grocery store has some deli and bakery section. The fancier ones having all the same meats and fucking cheeses everyone in Europe has and usually from the same places.

Yes we have the spongey sandwich bread, yes there's cheese aisles with tons of cheddar, but guess what retards those are the cheap options for people that don't give a shit. Go to the section for artisan bread and cheese sections they have separate and lo behold you can get any fucking cheese your retarded ass wants.

This is coming from someone in a sub 5k population rural town. I live walking distance to a bakery and deli. 12 minutes from a store that bakes bread in store and imports cheeses from around the world. I live an hour from a major city with even more variety. I know Euros can't fathom it, but if you really want all the selection of a city and live in po dunk nowhere you can literally just drive into the city, buy your groceries and then leave like once a week. America is a lot fucking bigger and way less walkable than Europe so driving 30 min to an hour to buy a week's worth groceries isn't a Herculean task.

Also tons of farm land and farmers who sell eggs, even the stores have the brown eggs right next to the white ones you're so triggered about, the delis can tell you where they source the local meat if asked. I'm just tired of hearing how horrible our food is while I'm eating the same shit all the Euros are eating. Eating goyslop is a choice, the idea that it isn't must be a fucking psy-op to keep the most annoying Europeans in their shitty fucking contient. Have fun eating your sourdough in your rained out shithole where you can get arrested over tweets and thinking about a gun can get you fined yeah the deli is really worth it lmao.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

Americans have no concept of the European bakeries. I think it's impossible to explain to Americans that in Europe, in every small town, there are at least 4 bakeries selling daily fresh baked breads and savory lunch items. American "bakeries" are just pastry shops selling desserts.

This is what you believe when:
1.) you have no cultural heritage of your own
2.) you can't cook yourself
3.) your point of reference for "America" is a Florida strip mall town

I shouldn't even dignify this 70-IQ take with a response, but in the area of Milwaukee I grew up in, within a 10 minute walk you have a 100+ year old Italian deli which makes their own award-winning sausages, a hippy-dippy organic grocery store that makes its own baked-goods and prepared foods with smoothies and stuff, and a traditional European bakery that along with fresh bread sells the Milwaukee Sunday staple of hot badger ham and fresh-baked rolls. Wisconsin regularly outperforms European cheeses (on this website alone you can look at all the awards won by Wisconsin cheese all the way back to 1995). Turns out when you actually have to innovate and you fully understand the cheese-making process (beyond "This is how we always do it!!!!"), you can make amazing things. My milk is so fresh that the expiration date is over a month from when I purchase it. Compare that to the shelf-stable crap at every Aldi in Europe. Wanna know the real reason Europeans are skinnier than Americans? It's because they're poor. America suffers from overabundance and wealth from success.

Just because you have this tranny notion of "I don't FEEL like an American!" doesn't mean your delusions are justified. Either renounce your citizenship or STFU.

 

[Tony Vivaldi]

The great Amerimutt Josef Stalin once said "Quantity is a quality all its own". Take that, eurocucks.

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Even comes with a dessert.

I've encountered enough Slavic drones from Pittsburgh to know this counts as fine dining experience.

There's no real debate. The average American (and even below average) has access to quality meats, cheeses, and bread (though quality fish seems harder to come by in certain areas). The average American is also low I.Q. and chooses not to source and/or enjoy said access, preferring laziness, ease of movement and mostly could not care less, and this is why they get taken advantage of. It isn't even affordability for the average, it's poor management of finances for generally the same reasons. But they sure as shit have their Disney +, Netflix, and sportsball subscriptions, their Air Jordans, their MGM betting awards, etc. etc.

The Great Unwashed are legion.

 

[Time 4 Guillotines]

Has anybody brought up that if you're not a coastal elite who has an Italian bakery/sandwich shop on every block that you probably do a lot of hunting and fishing? How does that work in Europe since you can't have guns, do you go out with your Muslim neighbors and throw acid in a deer's face?

Well Serbia did have a respectable arsenal until it's dumbass citizens started handing in their guns in some sort of backwards protest of mass shootings. Surely everything will be fine over there in the coming years

@Wendy Wheelchair
Exactly. I wouldn't have said anything until he started talking about moving back here.
>Is literally British according to DNA
"I hate the British!"
>Is literally American according to birth
"I hate America"
Just tell us which pronoun demonym you identify as and stay the hell over there.
I support ex-pats about as much as refugees for pretty much the same reason.
Both are cowards that ran away from their homeland instead of fighting for it but we're supposed to believe they'll somehow contribute to their new communities in a meaningful way besides being a tax producing unit.

 

[Cryogonal2]

You've never seen cheese, have you?

Love that stuff.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

@Null, your entire rant had made me think of this excerpt from a 1937 book "Little Golden America: two famous Soviet humorists survey these United States". (I think it was even recommended on MATI before)

You're going to supersede Null's retarded and out of date misconceptions about daily life in the USA with an even more out of date misconception by literal Soviet propagandists? And that fat expat is going to smugly think this proves anything? This is a sick world we live in I tell ya, where people can be so wrong on the Internet and still think they're right.

I demand @Null unreact to this post. It proves nothing except that he's got a bad case of confirmation bias and cannot psychologically process that he was largely wrong about everything he set out to say on this topic.

 

[draggs]

Considering size of country the difference in average food miles for Europe and the USA favors the USA

A big country like Germany unless you search out locally sourced products the average food miles of what you're buying is hundreds of miles. In the USA it's about 1500 miles if you aren't buying specifically locally sourced products. But the USA is 27 times larger than Germany and the US average food miles is not 27 times more than Germany's

Smaller countries have a smaller average. Muh Euro local food sourcing is a myth, just like in USA you can get local sourced food anywhere if you are fine with paying a premium. Otherwise the ingredients in your yogurt (or whatever) and the finished product traveled hundreds of miles minimum to reach your gaping fat maw

 

[DumbDude43]

How does that work in Europe

depends on country but generally it doesn't
you need to get a hunting license, and a gun license, and official approval to organize a hunt. if you try and cut corners, you'll enjoy prison for poaching or firearms law violations
basically it's not an option unless you are a professional hunter

 

[quaawaa]

Nigga, the third ingredient in your bread is sugar.

https://www.daveskillerbread.com/21-whole-grains-and-seeds

You do realize that yeast eats sugar? Sugar creates a lighter bread and you don’t taste it at all unless you add more sugar than the yeast can eat, and even in that case, it’s done primarily for its effects on texture, rather than sweetness.

And that's the fancy stuff compare that to regular euro bread.
https://www.migros.ch/product/111114900500

That’s not even the same type of bread! Of course they have different ingredients! Your bread also has honey in it, which is added sugar.

Here’s a more similar type of bread from your grocery store:

Wholemeal wheat flour 53%, water, wheat flour, yeast, wheat protein, table vinegar, rapeseed oil, iodized table salt, sugar, dried wheat sourdough, barley malt flour, flour treatment agent: ascorbic acid.

Compare that to the American bread (I removed the 21 different seeds for clarity and because the Euro bread is plain):

Whole wheat, water, cane sugar, wheat gluten, oat fiber, molasses, sea salt, yeast, vinegar, cultured wheat flour, enzymes, acerola cherry powder.

The American bread does have more sugar per serving, but it’s also a molasses bread (unlike the Euro “toast” bread) so the extra sweetness is a byproduct of adding the molasses for flavor and coloring.

 

[Mourning_Cloak]

This is unbelievably retarded. Local farmers markets usually have tons of homemade baked goods from the area or a few hours away, and I've also had cheese like that but it's less common.

Don't tell me Dear Feeder is more or less admitting he never touched grass in Florida. Classic expat behavior, "reeee USA bad reeeeeee."

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Pepperjack is a type of cheese product that's easy to find in America but quite rare abroad. So much so that people take special care to import it.

It's nothing fancy, just a very mild jack cheese mixed with peppers and seasoning. But the blend of flavors and textures is really nice.