Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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I don't believe this for a second. Camembert? That's on average (and has always been) 7 Euro a kilo and Brie is on average 9 Euro a kilo. That's the equivalent of $10.50 to $13.50 a kilogram. Also, I do not for a second believe that just because you are European that between the ages of 7 to 13 you were all "Oui-oui, maman! Je mange fancie!"
If you think that a normal family can't afford to put a slice of brie on sandwiches except on special holidays, then you are poor.
 
Yeah, cuz slavs put Camembert on their ham sandwiches, apparently.
Limburger is really good on a ham sandwich with some onions. But then again I like salami-and-feta sandwiches with El Yucateco habanero sauce so make of this what you will.
 
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If you think that a normal family can't afford to put a slice of brie on sandwiches except on special holidays, then you are poor.
A normal family isn't going to spread (not put a slice) specialty cheese with aromatic volatility (a waste) on a child's sandwich for school. Also, I don't think you understand the difference between a kilogram and a pound because you're a nigger.
 
weak shit homie, enjoy your plastic cheese
The man giggling behind this post:
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most of those ~prestigious~ cheeses are shit that snobby boomers eat, not kids. brie, camembert, munster, limburger, etc.
kids get mundane and generic cheese like emmentaler, edamer, gouda.
 
I get the $5 wheel of brie at walmart all the time I don't know what you're talking about Null.
But is it

>locally sourced
>in a town where you are lifelong friends with the farmer, butcher, and deli owner
>5k miles from a body of water
>priced at 5 cents per pound.
>a color that I specifically find enjoyable
>never been processed or even near a process of any kind
>Given to you by a friend Golem named John
>Wrapped in a wet cloth soaked in the tears of Palestinian kids
>delivered to your house by helicopter
>have ptsd from it's time in the war

If not sorry Amerimutts enjoy the goyslop stalker children.
 
I'm not even a native US American, though I have lived there long enough on and off to have a somewhat intimate understanding, and even I know Josh's thoughts on this are retarded.

1. You can also buy beef by the quarter, not just by the half or whole, and you can go in on these purchases with multiple people and then split the meat between yourselves. It requires slight collaboration with other people (Ew, talking to people outside of the Internet? Yikes, bro.), but it's really not that hard to find enough people interested in splitting 200-300lbs of meat such that it isn't cost prohibitive nor do you end up with more meat than you can actually handle.

2. Meat only needs to be USDA certified to be sold across state lines. You don't need any such certification to sell your wares locally so long as the state itself doesn't have its own legislation which requires it (which shouldn't matter within the confines of this specific argument since Josh's complaint is entirely about LOCAL meat unless the state requires certification regardless.).

3. If you go to any grocery store more upscale than a Target or Walmart you're bound to come across whole walls or dedicated sections inhabited only by multitudes of foreign and domestic cheeses from 5 cents per slice goyslop to $100+ per lb exotics full of crystalline flavor packed culinary bliss.

4. Wild game does not need to be certified by the USDA and can be bought and sold freely.

5. Still giving the edge to Europe when it comes to wine, but the US has some of the best craft beer on the planet.

Also, what's so bad about USDA certification anyway? USDA certification only confirms that the meat is processed and stored hygienically. Besides that the actual grading of the meat is entirely optional and has no bearing on whether or not it can be sold.
 
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Never heard of UK cheese. Either Italian or French or the local ones like "Mountain farmer cheese" (literal translation). Nothing beats those. Don't think I've ever seen English cheese.
You stick to manky European cheese. That'll learn you.
 
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I have not read this entire thread, so I apologize if some of this has already been brought up.

Most of the bread in the U.S sucks. The only good bread I've had was baked at home, came from local Amish bakeries, or came from fancy restaurants. The stuff baked in the local grocery store always tastes off. Maybe big cities have better stuff. I don't go to nice, large cities very often. All we have locally is a single Walmart and a handful of local grocery store chains that are somehow worse than Walmart. The big Walmart killed off most of the local stores after it was built. The produce also usually sucks there. However, there are several Amish and Mennonite communities nearby that sell produce when it's in season and the stuff that comes from them is consistently good.

Most cheese made in the U.S. is cheddar, followed by mozzarella and parmesan. Kraft cheese is not legally considered "cheese", the FDA calls it is a "pasteurized processed American cheese food". As far as I know, the only stuff at my local Walmart is cheddar, mozzarella, and parmesan. Maybe a few other things and there is often more selections available near Christmas. Cheese that is not cheddar, mozzarella, or parmesan tends to be considered "fancy" by locals. We of course have Kraft but I am not counting it as cheese; it is cheese flavored.

The meat at Walmart is bad and extremely suspicious. I have seen packages of meat that are clearly spoiled still on the shelves. My father has always been very particular about the meat he buys. He'll order a half cow from someone local or he'll order something frozen from a delivery service. I still get the meat I eat from him because I do not trust the stuff I'd be able to afford on my own. All meat that is sold in the United States has to come from either a USDA (federal) or Food Safety (state) approved butcher, so as far as I can tell, Josh is correct about that.

Also fun fact about my local Walmart: there is designated horse parking. Most places in town have designated horse parking. I think that is common for rural areas though.
 
>locally sourced
>in a town where you are lifelong friends with the farmer, butcher, and deli owner
>5k miles from a body of water
>priced at 5 cents per pound.
>a color that I specifically find enjoyable
>never been processed or even near a process of any kind
>Given to you by a friend Golem named John
>Wrapped in a wet cloth soaked in the tears of Palestinian kids
>delivered to your house by helicopter
>have ptsd from it's time in the war
We also have isolated, specialized communities and urban cores (and megalopoli) which are heavily isolated (New York, Louisville, any appalachian city is isolated by appalachia and NY is a literal water borough) that require production at a distance and to be brought by rail or water. MUCH of America has all of these benefits for basic meat, bread and cheese. It is just that certain areas define American normalcy. It's the same in any European country with a "world city" which is inevitably built on a swamp.
 
local Amish bakeries
Stab in the dark but, Pennsylvania has always sucked food wise. Is not a model for America.
cool, most do, and most americans are now putting essentials on card.
And Europeans are going to effectively live on food stamps thanks to CBDC. They aren't in a much better situation at all. Also, the lower costs in Europe are in direct relation to their access to petroleum which is being kneecapped here in the states. Access to petroleum via Norway or access to alternative transport.

EDIT: In countries that are nearly equivalent to three quarters the size of a single state in our own country, by the way.
 
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