Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Optantrix]

Going to use this thread as an opportunity to shill Adam Raguseas bread recipe. Its so simple (Flour, salt, yeast, water), if you have a dutch oven you have zero excuses. I like to put some dill into it and eat with Kerrygold butter.

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Stop buying shitty store bread and make your own!

I bought some dehydrated sourdough starter and have been procrastinating getting it re-hydrated and fed, maybe this is the kick I need to get it going and make my own goods.
I really only bought it because local prices are insane, $18 for one loaf if you want add ins, $14 for plain

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

apparently San Fransisco does bred but i would rather not find out first hand

If you get bred in San Francisco you're gonna end up with AIDS

 

[shameful existence]

I don't think Americans can handle the dangers of a proper bread.


How on Earth is this a thing?
Kids where I live are specifically given the chewy crust of sourdough bread to help with teething.

 

[DavidS877]

Interestingly, some states allow non-USDA inspected meat to be sold at retail. BUT it's still required to be processed in a state inspected facility to the same standards as the USDA with an on-site state employed inspector and sold only within that state. The commerce clause strikes again.

 

[waffle]

You're also just wrong about meat, you don't really understand the regulatory pipeline on farming to slaughter to butchering. It is bad, but not like you are making it out to be. The TL;DR is that you can sell state inspected meat in state, but you can't have a farm and a slaughter house on the same land or as the same business.

For instance this is a state inspected plant (https://agriculture.mo.gov/animals/health/inspections/), that you can buy meat directly from https://www.nadlersmeats.com/ , they sell regular cuts in the store. Call them on the phone and they'll tell you. Their website kind of sucks.

To be clear, I'm sure the packaged stuff they sell on their site was slaughtered off sight at USDA inspected facility, because it is for interstate commerce

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Jaffa Cakes are British, and shockingly enough they have a very decent ingredients list. Not like US sweets, that either abuse HFCS or add spoiled milk to the recipe copying UK's war necessity as a part of cuisine where the chocolate tastes like vomit. I had both Jaffa Cakes and Hershey's bars and Jaffa Cakes were much much better. The jello was based on natural orange juice too.

Before I get too indignant I will apologize to the world on behalf of America for the putrid excuse for chocolate that is Hershey's

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

you're buying half cows then.

I dont get what you're trying to accomplish unless this is just for acks. You can get quality meats and cheese although it might have to be in large quantities. Its possible to bring a cow to a butcher shop and have it processed.
Am I supposed to be standing up for the people who are too lazy or don't care about buying quality?

 

[Mr. Manchester]

I've heard grocery quality is higher in europe because europeans cook at home a lot more and tend to give a shit about quality groceries. As I am fond of doing, I will blame fat people for this dilemma because they're the ones eating McDonalds all the time.

I can get whatever kind of cheese I want because I'm a suburbanite, though.

 

[verymuchawful]

Fed thread. I'm not telling you the whereabouts of where I live and what food product is available locally. And I'm not taking a picture of all the different types of cheese available in a store near me in an attempt to humor this argument. DO NOT VOTE.

 

[Übertroon]

It does beg the question of what they're doing in the US to make the slop so awful

Also

 

[Chad Holdenford]

I don't think Americans can handle the dangers of a proper bread.

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How on Earth is this a thing?
Kids where are live are specifically given the chewy crust of sourdough bread to help with teething.

I never got why americans don't like their sliced white bread with crust.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

"Tri-state" = city slicker.

Does it matter when I can't eat 95 percent of beef, cheese, or bread produced in the city?

 

[The I Scream Man]

Its not a huge secret which state I live in, although it probably should be

I live in the biggest city in said state but we are separated from everything by a large distance, which means we HAVE to get a lot of our meats and stuff raised locally

Our farmers banded together as a result and put together their own slaughter facility, so I know that my meat was born here, raised here and (unfortunately?) died here to feed me and mine

Plus a lot of the meats that I eat are voluntary under USDA rules, namely bison and other game-adjacent meats

 

[Ed Special]

You aren't wrong, null, but you still deserve sperg rates.

 

[Castoreum]

The massive amount of glyphosate in American bread and grain products is giving people Celiac disease and chronic tummy aches!!

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

I bought some dehydrated sourdough starter and have been procrastinating getting it re-hydrated and fed, maybe this is the kick I need to get it going and make my own goods.
I really only bought it because local prices are insane, $18 for one loaf if you want add ins, $14 for plain

Go for it. It's easy as piss, takes next to no time, makes your home smell amazing, and nothing beats a sandwich made off of freshly baked, still hot bread.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Wait, what's wrong with USDA slaughterhouses? Before I became a MIC man, I was a wandering worker in several industrial food settings, including one chicken slaughterhouse. It's gross, but it's literally just slaughtering on a mass scale. A necessity when you consider just how many people there are in this country.

 

[Berrakh]

This shit again? I really need to listen to the MATIs on time or I miss what the new discourse will be about.

Obviously this debate is about how fake and gay the Jewnited States are with the shitty hormone-infused foods being one big area and the specific issue at hand just being a stand-in for all of that.

 

[Null]

I've heard grocery quality is higher in europe because europeans cook at home a lot more and tend to give a shit about quality groceries. As I am fond of doing, I will blame fat people for this dilemma because they're the ones eating McDonalds all the time.

This is also true when it comes to restaurants. Because Europeans cook way more often, not only is the availability of fresh and quality ingredients way higher, but restaurants also have to compete to serve a commercial demographic already capable of cooking. As a result, food served is much better and also more affordable.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Americans eat fifty kinds of cheddar and shredded processed cheese. If they're lucky they have mozzarella still in a brine, whatever the fuck "swiss" means, bleu cheese (generally in a bottle of premade dressing), and one soft cheese: brie. If they're really fancy, they will have Meunster.

There are two bakeries within 20 minutes of me and two local supermarkets bake bread in store. Within fifty miles of me there are like ten bakeries that supply local restaurants with long rolls and other type of bread.

My local grocery store has American made cheeses and cheese imported from all over.

The only way you buy local meat butchered by a guy you know is to buy half of an entire cow to get what is called 'custom meat', which CANNOT be sold as individual cuts.

I really do not care if my cow comes from two states away. I can walk into a butcher and ask for specific cuts a specific way and they will cut it. I can walk to the supermarket down the street and watch them break animals down because their butchers work behind a window.

People are insisting to me Americans in podunk towns with fewer than 1000 people you can still get cheeses of wide variety similar to region-controlled European cheeses.

Dude towns of 70 in the US are often next to towns of 30k They can drive five minutes and get to a major supermarket.

Not really sure how I would prove it though since virtually any image I provide would partially daaaawwwwwwxxxx me.

I really never experienced any food in Europe that blew away an equally priced US option.

That said: The coffee available in smaller European locations blows away 90% of metro coffee places in the US.