Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Drama Fan]

I grew up in the far north of Wisconsin, in a town of about 3000 people, just about 10min drive from a city of 10,000.

We had easy access to many fresh delicious cheeses from a specialty store just outside of that small city. There was a local grocery store that baked their own bread, and had a very nice deli department.

It was pretty much the only place to get decent food without going to Green Bay, until Walmart built a super center there. Even after that, they were the place everyone would go for bread and other stuff that wasn't just your standard packaged stuff. (Veggies, meats, breads, ect.)

There was also a local butcher. I can't vouch for where he got his meat from, sure. but it was a local guy cutting it up himself.

Everywhere I've lived since has had access to much better stuff than Walmart Tier trash, to varying levels of quality.

This. Wisconsin chads stay winning as long as you buy half a cow. There's tons of local cheeses literally branded with what dairy farm they come from. There's not a ton of fresh baked breads outside of big cities, but of those 3 bread is probably the easiest to make for yourself if you really care about it.
If you can't find decent food it's because you're not looking for it and just going to Walmart for Walmart tier slop.

 

[Spaghetti van Halen]

So what observation in whichever post-bloc country you reside has you this geared up about how shit Publix was 8 years ago?

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

America is so incredibly regional and our state and federal rules so complex it's hard to simply pin down a region as being slop fed or fresh pilled. Most people eating like shit in America are doing it by choice and because it's easy. It's not even cheaper anymore.

The lowest common denominator is pretty universal though. I’ve seen Bay Area billionaires eating the same processed slop as backcountry trailer folk.

 

[Null]

Alright, let's all calm down and come to a realization. We're all unwillingly scouting an area for Josh to live when he returns to the States. Let's take this opportunity to gaslight him into believing some ghetto infested area has the best meats and cheese.

 

[Hüftpriester]

I have to agree with Null on this one. It's incredibly difficult to get non-goyslop in the US. Everything about food is much better in Western Europe.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Josh I can go to any farmer's market in any part of this country and find freshly prepared bread, meat, and cheese of all types. I can go to state fairs and buy artisanal alcohol, non-processed cheese, freshly prepared meat, and a deep fried twinkee. The MATI take on lack of access to good food products in America is a weird mix of ghetto ignorance of how to get real food plus self-hating expat whinging about how actually [insert country here] is better than America.

Edit: Plus having lived off Sainsbury's and Tesco for a year, I can tell you that fruit availability is far superior in America. You never know what you're missing until you're looking for a good citrus itsem and all that's available is some small, shitty, and bruised Valencia orange that's a week old.

 

[Professor G. Raff]

Null has apparently gone full Eurocuck. How low until he starts posting threads about how citizens shouldn't own guns, you need to freeze to death instead of using a wood stove and championing that the farms that produce this meat need to be appropriated by the government and shut down because cow farts cause too much CO2?

 

[whatever I feel like]

Wegmans has like a hundred different choices of "high quality" cheese to go along with the Ameri-blocks which, guess what, often taste just as good despite being far cheaper. Every other supermarket chain, bar Walmart, will have at least a selection of small "gourmet" cheeses. So yeah, in regards to cheese you haven't lived in the US in nearly a decade and, as an infamous cheapskate, were shopping in shitholes.

As to slaughterhouses? There is nothing wrong with slaughterhouses.

As to bakeries? Yeah, shit sucks, bro. In theory Panera sells "fresh baked" bread but who knows how true that is.

 

[DJ Grelle]

Null are you drunk?

 

[FamicomGorby]

My Kroger has a premium cheese aisle, but I live in a city and said Kroger is in the nicer part of town. If I head to the crappier Kroger forget it it’s AMERICAN CHEESE and Preshredded Slop.

What pisses me off is them selling steaks and the steaks are sliced paper thin w/ no marbling. This is a trick to sell you minute steaks at premium pricing. If there wasn’t a Costco and a legit local Butcher Shop I’d be fucked and again I live in the city.

I have also noticed that the Krogers in the more socio-economically diverse areas in my city definitely have a different stock available than in predominately white areas. They also tend to have a much larger police presence.

I'm just glad I live somewhere with an H-Mart, fuckin love getting some thin cut beef.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Null BTFO'd

Also

You will never eat real food. You have no dairy farms, you have no butchers, you have no bakeries. You are an obese monstrosity malformed by soybean oil and HFCS into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “locally made food” you get is mass-produced and heavily processed. Behind your back Europeans mock you. Your ancestors are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “online friends” laugh at your soygolem appearance in private discord servers.

Non-americans are utterly repulsed by your food. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed us to sniff out goyslop with incredible efficiency. Even your organic produce with a “bio” label looks uncanny and unnatural to us. The laundry list of additives is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get something fresh from a local farmer, it'll turn out to be full of glyphosate and other industrial fertilizers.

You will never be healthy. You make yourself a bowl of sugar-loaded cereal with milk full of antibiotics every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel your glucose serum levels creeping up like a weed, ready to crush what's left of your insulin sensitivity.

Eventually it’ll be too much for your cardiovascular system to bear - you’ll wolf down a hamburger, wash it down with a diet coke, clutch your chest in agony, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to watch you put on weight with unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with a McDonald's logo and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know an American is buried there. Your adipose tissue will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a bundle of calcified coronary arteries.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

midwest supremacy. this guy doesn't know you can take a deer you killed yourself to a processor and get it butchered for a small fee.

I'm pretty sure you can do that anywhere rural although there's this weird law in Texas where if you hit a deer with your car and kill it you're not allowed to take the deer home. You have to leave it where you struck it, another person can come behind you and take the deer and use it's meat but if you ran into it it's illegal for you to do so.

I can only imagine it's so that people don't purposely run over deer to circumvent hunting laws or something insane like that.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Alright, let's all calm down and come to a realization. We're all unwillingly scouting an area for Josh to live when he returns to the States. Let's take this opportunity to gaslight him into believing some ghetto infested area has the best meats and cheese.

I hear Chester, PA has a thriving local meat and cheese scene.

Also houses are really affordable. This one is a bit of a fixerupper but it has great bones!

There are probably actually skeletons in the basement.

 

[waffle]

I have to agree with Null on this one. It's incredibly difficult to get non-goyslop in the US. Everything about food is much better in Western Europe.

It's hard and requires a lot of home cooking, but it isn't "TOTALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE OMG" if you don't live in the city.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I can only imagine it's so that people don't purposely run over deer to circumvent hunting laws or something insane like that.

Definitely that, though I'm not sure in what world hitting a deer is worth it for the damage it does to the truck. Unless maybe someone reinforced the front to handle slamming into a 600lb animal.

 

[Hideous K]

Blame the corpos for snuffing out the skilled people to create process preservatives, best to make your own foods like what @CHARizard said.

Going to use this thread as an opportunity to shill Adam Raguseas bread recipe. Its so simple (Flour, salt, yeast, water), if you have a dutch oven you have zero excuses. I like to put some dill into it and eat with Kerrygold butter.

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Stop buying shitty store bread and make your own!

 

[Kermit Jizz]

It's hard and requires a lot of home cooking

This isn't even true. The whole notion that it's somehow difficult to eat healthy foods in the US is a HAES cope through and through.

 

[Marsh Rabbit]

I will admit, I did not notice this issue until this was said in the MATI thread. I have not seen a wide variety of cheese in the South East United States. Even expensive "bougie" stores barely have a cheese selection, and local cheese makers only really have cheddar, mozzarella, and some regional varieties. Barely any hard cheeses. Goat cheeses and some other soft cheeses have gotten more popular in the past 10 years though. However, I have seen a lot more cheese variety in the Midwest - though strangely mostly more imported varieties. These are the only two regions I can comment on.

However, come on man plenty of grocery stores have fresh baked bread and deli. Obviously you have a point with the strange USDA processing requirements, but any store that is not bottom of the barrel Walmart has baked bread made either that day or within that week. Then again, I'm talking Publix and Costco. I've also seen plenty of local restaurants and bakeries actually selling bread, it's just that pastries are generally the more popular sellers there, since Americans do tend to purchase the shitty bread aisle bread. I've now been encouraged to start baking my own, thank you.

 

[Roccosmoderndeath1]

Posting to assert my moral, spiritual, and physical superiority over everyone else because I bake my own bread and slaughter my own chickens.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

All the people who try to upset jersh by talking about blockland pedo Comments or infinity next need to switch gears, just mention you're love for fresh USDA approved meats and it'll send him into a tard rage.