Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[The Blue Morpho]

I'll admit to liking bad food, but I gotta ask... is local artisan pizza really THAT much better just because all the ingredients happened to come from the same ZIP code and the shop owner woke up at 3AM to personally stir the sauce with his dick?

I'm not convinced.

This is the real secret, the real gigabrain question.

Having recently had some artisanal pizza that was wood fired and the ingredients were all of the highest quality at some hispter pizza joint in the suburbs of a big city, I left feeling that it lacked soul. It was very good, but it was also empty. A pizza from no-where.

I've heard it said before that often times the simple grease-trap burger hits better than the fancy, overthought one from the hipster gastropub and I find this is often true. When I want an excellent burger, I usually go to my favorite local grease-trap, not just for the value but because the burger is genuinely fantastic. Its a nice little place that's been around a while, is a local institution, the employees are all friendly and know all the regulars.

This is where you can get a meal with soul.

 

[M3xus]

I bake my own bread. Not hard to make soda bread loaves.

The rest I agree with Null about, it's hard to find actual local meat or cheese here in suburbia, even at the "nice" grocers.

 

[I-chi]

Live near the Amish, buy from them all the time. Seethe, expat.

 

[quackrock]

Anyplace with significant German, Slavic, Italian, and maybe Scandinavian populations still has access to good food. The better regional grocery stores in majority-white areas still bake whole loaves of bread fresh daily. They're usually sold in the bakery section, not necessarily by the factory-made bread. Cheese in America is also generally varied, high-quality and plentiful, it's just not found in Wal-Mart. Same with fresh locally-sourced meats and sausages. Even Safeway is better for this stuff than Wally World.

tl;dr check out Texas, New England, or the Midwest and visit non-Wal-Mart grocery stores. You'll find all sorts of great food in these categories up to and including pasties, sausage rolls and kolaches

 

[NoReturn]

Alright, let's all calm down and come to a realization. We're all unwillingly scouting an area for Josh to live when he returns to the States. Let's take this opportunity to gaslight him into believing some ghetto infested area has the best meats and cheese.

He should move to Washington/Oregon so he has an excuse to fly the vexillologically-pleasing Cascadian flag.


That or just Alaska, New Mexico, Colorado, or Arizona to fit that branding thing he was talking about.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Everyone in this thread posting about baking your own bread are kind of missing the point.
Sure you CAN do that, and maybe with some more effort you could make your own cheese. Maybe if you're really dedicated you could buy your own cow and raise it to adulthood and butcher it yourself!
That's not really the point though, is it?
I'm not saying Null is right, but come on.

Well yeah. European homes also have almost no kitchen or laundry room, not to mention lack air conditioning. European stoves are more around to heat up water for tea and small meals where Americans literally cook family sized meals. Society is set up differently, in US the big grocery chains are just for simplicity, there’s still delis and such but I think Null has just been spoiled by European living. He probably thinks the only places to go out to eat are Olive Garden and Buffal Wild Wings while bars are nonexistent

 

[Angry Shoes]

1) City Slicker from the Coasts
2) Your butchers are not butchering animals. Ask them if their meat comes from a USDA inspected factory. They will say yes.

“America doesn’t have meat cheese or bread”
Sure we do, here are some examples
”No not like that”

yes if you live in a city of 30,000 people or more you will have access to bougie organic stores. Every shithole town in Serbia has cheese, meat, and bread all super local. The average American does not eat at a quality level similar to people in any place in Europe.

”Only coastal cities have access to meat cheese and bread”
Actually any place with a few thousand people will have all three
”No not like that”

 

[IAmTheBooky]

If the meat comes from the same 4 companies; WTF are muslims in the USA eating?


Anything Null said about bread in Europe only counts for what is called a " warm bakery" , Warm bakeries are the only ones that make their own bread.
A '"cold bakery" literally just orders its bread from a factory.
I don"t even have a cold bakery in my city so It isnt that big of an issue. but still good to know.

 

[Jelli]

All bread in the us is white bread and sugar.
Dark bread with nutritional value scares the American.

 

[LimeRikki]

I love this site so fucking much.

Also Jersh is spot on about Burgerland store bread, its packed with sugar, very shelf stable, and poor quality.

I do not know if this is true or not, but my gut tells me that even the varieties beyond chedder cheese in America are probably still way more processed and lower quality than the same types of those cheeses you'd find in Europe.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

https://texasfrenchbread.com/

Also, the HEBs here literally bake multiple types of bread on-premise every day.

A lot of butchers will also tell you where they source their meats

https://www.saltandtime.com/our-farmers

Powerleveling, slightly. HEB no longer makes real scratch anything. Everything is frozen and shipped to each store to be baked on location. The exception are certain dougnuts and scratch breads. But even the "scratch" breads are essentially easy bake mixes just at larger scale. TLDR, even though it is scratch it is basically still fresh Walmart bread.

 

[LurkerJerker]

I'm hungry now

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Null is off his meds again, or this is just another bender?

 

[Pissmaster]

yeah i'm not doxing some of my local shops to prove a point to null

 

[Blood Drenched Halo]

Just went to the store and bought me two bags of their finest sharp cheddar. God FUCKING damnit I love being an American

 

[Dick Pooman]

I've never been anywhere in the United States where there wasn't a farmer's market nearby that sold great meat/cheese/bread/produce. If people are too lazy to go there and buy things then that's on them.

 

[draggs]

Has the feeder jihad against haram Muricafood finally begun? Inshallah

 

[Caesare]

Bread in the US is generally sandwich bread shit outside of extremely expensive and uncommon bakery places.

Bread from the bakery isn't expensive. Grocery stores also have bakeries that make fresh French bread daily.

I think local meat is better across western United States then in Europe.

American beef and Texas Prime beef is the envy of the planet. Awhile back, there was this stupid foodie fad for Japanese Kobe beef. It was overpriced imported meat that couldn't come close to Texas Prime. Null is a nerd who lived off of fast food in America because it was convenient and he was more interested in his websites. Now that he's in a place where there isn't the vast variety the United States offers, he was forced to leave his bubble and get whatever was available to him, and in his case it was stuff fresher than Burger King Whoopers. An Earth shattering realization! Fresh, local specialities are tastier than a 3 dollar hamburger that some greasy nigger made at his local BK.

 

[Anti Snigger]

>josh hasn't had to deal with the menace of free range cattle in his town
>he also hasn't tasted real local meat

 

[GunCar Gary]

American "bakeries" are just pastry shops selling desserts.

uh, yes? what else would you buy at a bakery? bread?

you've been away from the motherland for too long. we upgraded to donuts years ago