Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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We have a local butcher shop (but Null is right, you literally can’t sell shit that didn’t come out of a USDA slaughterhouse), and they sell some great jerky and cuts of meat. Rogue Creamery down in Oregon makes some of the best blue cheese I know of. Macrina Bakery in Seattle makes great bread. It's not just pastries, they have everything. The problem is, everything they make is a little bit heavy and brioche-like and on the sweet side, and it's troublesome finding truly fresh examples straight from the oven that haven't been sitting on a shelf all day. Last, but not least, you can walk right into Whole Foods or a Town & Country Market (or one of those other, upscale, Whole Foods-like places), and there will always be a big section full of imported cheeses. You can tell they're good because they call them cheeses instead of just the uncountable noun cheese. There is no unpasteurized brie, sadly.

The notion that America has nothing to eat but Kraft Mac & Cheese, Cheez-Its, and Spam is a little ridiculous. There's great food everywhere, you just have to look for it and be willing to pony up extra.
 
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Every grocery store in Wisconsin has access to 6 million forms of cheese, because it's Wisconsin. Even some bars sell 20 year aged cheddar (shut up). Every deli counter has an entire cooler section dedicated to real cheese, even foul goat shit. Truly a blessed land.
 
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Joshuan Moon said:
Null is very much right when it comes to the bread. Flour, yeast, salt, and water are the only necessary ingredients in real bread. Any American trying to claim their grocery store "fresh baked" "bread" is actual bread is an American whose understanding of what constitutes bread is so warped and distorted by white wonder bread that they think the same product but slightly denser and unsliced is some totally different thing. That must be where the real bread is at because it vaguely resembles actual bread that they've seen in photographs before. Outside of specialty shops and home bakers, nobody is making real bread because it's literally only good for a day and Americans will hurt their soft mouths on the hard crust and firm crumb. It just doesn't make for a very marketable product for the American lifestyle.
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Worse content creators cry out about lost engagement and not getting enough people to hit subscribe, Jewsh just gets clickthroughs from a stream to his (private) website to sell coins
Worse marketers need endless surveys, tracking cookies, and wholesale orders of userdata from Meta to find out consumer habits. Jewsh just says no cheese in America and now several dozen pages of location scouting and demographic tips for free

Thanks for the data mining thread!

On a different note here's some beanie approved fence-sitting - regardless of continent cheese should be a free addition to any deli or prepared sandwich.
 
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Null said:
Americans do not have access to real cheese, local meat, or fresh baked bread.

Americans eat fifty kinds of cheddar and shredded processed cheese. If they're lucky they have mozzarella still in a brine, whatever the fuck "swiss" means, bleu cheese (generally in a bottle of premade dressing), and one soft cheese: brie. If they're really fancy, they will have Meunster.

Their bread aisle is a bunch of bags of shelf stable bread that can survive thermonuclear war. Sometimes the 'artisan' bread bags are literally painted to look like they have beads of steam clouding them, as if they came off a bakery line. They will have access to maybe two types of fresh baked breads at Walmart.
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What a load of crap, this is the same stupid European opinions from stupid Europeans that think all American food is the lowest the low, Walmart/Dollar Tree-tier processed garbage.

Let's talk about cheese—if you want the basic Kraft brick or similar store brands, it's there, but the better cheeses are found in the deli department, which is a slightly different part of the store. Most stores have this, even without being in a "big city". Basically your mainline, basic grocery store (Albertsons, Kroger, HEB, etc.) is going to have something like this, though Walmart often lacks it.

Bread is similar—you have to go to the bakery department rather than the main bread aisle.

Meats are a little different, but almost every town will have some sort of small meat shop with better cuts that they do in-store...and you CAN find locally-slaughtered meat, my own alma mater had a slaughterhouse right on campus and the meat can be bought on-site as well as a chain grocery store on leased university land. And speaking of which, while I was still IN college, I seem to recall a bunch of literal horsemeat from Eastern Europe being mislabeled as beef and in a bunch of "beef" products in the UK and France.
 
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The United States government owns 1.4 billion poundsof cheese. The cheese is stored in converted limestone mines in Missouri. The stockpile started in the 1970s during Jimmy Carter's presidency.

The cheese stockpile weighs more than the Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Tower of Pisa, and the Great Sphinx of Giza combined. It's about 900,000 cubic yards of cheese.

The cheese is no longer completely owned by the government but by private companies. Congress took the program off the books completely. They replaced it with updated risk management strategies to support dairy farmers.

The reason for the massive amount of excess dairy is simple — America produces more milk than it consumes.

And its all cheddar.
 
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In fall of 2023, both armies of the Cheddar Civil War came to a head at the autism thunderdome.
 
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