Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[JambledUpWords]

Have to agree with Null here on this. Those supermarket bakeries are all using premade doughs. Its how they post the nutrition facts on the packaging.

Even whole foods does this.

Truly a feat of American industrialization. The US is so good at mass producing food.

 

[Pissmaster]

Have to agree with Null here on this. Those supermarket bakeries are all using premade doughs. Its how they post the nutrition facts on the packaging.

Even whole foods does this.

Try looking for an independent grocer that isn't owned by a giant multinational corporation like Amazon.

 

[stalkerchild]

I think there are several things being conflated here:
1. True farm to table food - raised/slaughtered/sold within the same town/village
2. Deli counter meats/cheeses from prepackaged vendors that are industrial size operations
3. Chilled food section Oscar Meyer goyslop

Europe has and always will have the advantage here as they don't have the land to farm and produce enough for no. 2. There is more local foods available because the people there will gladly support them and mostly insist on them. No 2 is more mid-tier food that is not awful but is still preservative heavy and 100% not from a local farm. Nothing in a grocery store deli is local. Even if it actually comes from a farm near you, it is processed and prepacked hundreds of miles away to be sent back to your local store. You can get No 2 in any town in the US.

People that purchase no 3 need to be shot. multiple times.

 

[Julius Streicher]

Hansen's Dairy,
Hudson, Iowa

Pretty much any beef/dairy product you want, they sell. They have three Habsen's Dairy store locations in Black Hawk County. They also partner with local donut/bakery shops to distribute fresh bread and bake goods in their stores. The smallest grocery store Hansen product are sold is "The market off Main" in Albion, Iowa. (population 446) They also partner with other local family farms to sell pork and chicken product on special occasion.

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[VeeAndro]

While Wal Mart and apparently Whole Foods use premade dough, this isn't the case at Publix. Also, like I said before, there will be private delis and bakeries. Both will make fresh bread. I bring that up because I could have mistaken dough at Publix for being made at the store.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I must live in a pretty good area because a lot of my stores, even the shitty on s have a pretty decent cheese selection. Not amazing but I've seen a few stores that have that giant cheese wheel selection thing, and one place I worked at even had a cheese master. Maybe it's cause I live out in pasture country.

 

[CHARizard]

but the argument isnt about who has the best tasting bread and cheese, its about being able to get more than kraft singles and wonderbread.

I guess my point is that there's not a whole lot different between wonderbread and the shit they make at these grocery store bakeries. It still has a ton of unnecessary ingredients to make the dough more stable and easier to cook in store.

I am making bread right now because I cant buy the bread they sell here.

 

[AnOminous]

American cheese is not even cheese.
Euro cheese FTW!

"American cheese" isn't cheese, but American cheddar (yes fuck you if you don't like cheddar the King of Cheeses), gouda, goat cheese, blue cheese (like Rogue River literally voted best in the world by 260 international judges), and other actual real cheeses we make here, stacks up against any country in the world.

About the only ones where I think anyone has an actual edge on us are traditional English cheeses like Stilton. Or even Wensleydale, although I largely got into that because it was in Wallace and Gromit. Seriously, though, check it out. The feature in W&G literally saved the makers of the cheese from bankruptcy.

 

[Pissmaster]

I guess my point is that there's not a whole lot different between wonderbread and the shit they make at these grocery store bakeries. It still has a ton of unnecessary ingredients to make the dough more stable and easier to cook in store.

I am making bread right now because I cant buy the bread they sell here.

All I can do is anecdotally confirm that you are wrong as fuck, but I cannot prove anything without doxing a place where I've worked.

 

[Julius Streicher]

oh also, you can just be a fucking normal Iowa chad and just buy a whole pig at your local meat locker.

 

[PeggieBigCock]

It would be fucking hilarious if dick Masterson or Rekeita found this thread and used it as proof of the Forum turning against Null.

Inevitable, “all your users doxxing themselves to prove their local chain has more than 5 kinds of cheddar, what the fuck is wrong with that guy?”

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

I guess my point is that there's not a whole lot different between wonderbread and the shit they make at these grocery store bakeries. It still has a ton of unnecessary ingredients to make the dough more stable and easier to cook in store.

I am making bread right now because I cant buy the bread they sell here.

yes i agree mass produced bread isnt as good as artisanal bread but it still obviously qualifies as “not wonderbread”.

 

[quaawaa]

Also, you lived in Florida which I feel obligated to remind everyone is so far removed from normal, sane life in America that it shouldn’t even count as experience with the US in the first place.

Florida has some of the best restaurants in the United States. All the good chefs from NYC have moved/opened a second location there because none of them actually like living in New York.

The state is full of rich retired people with high-end tastes and the stores and restaurants cater to them.

 

[Garamok]

Oh, what we also have here is "Ja! Natürlich" which means "Yes! Naturally".

Ja! Natürlich is a retail brand of the Rewe International food group in Austria. Food from organic farming is sold under this brand.

And we have a retailer called "Spar" here too

SPAR, originally DESPAR, styled as DE SPAR, is a Dutch multinational franchise that provides branding, supplies and support services for independently owned and operated food retail stores.

And another bio market is on the rise here: "Denns Biomarket". Though, it's quite expensive but it has organic bio products. It's going well and expanding more and more.

Milk comes from inside the country. We have a lots of dairy farms here. Cheese gets partially imported (special cheese like Feta or Mozzarella or some French shit). Meat is mainly from inside the country and also from farmers. Farmers get subsidized from the government but it's a harsh business because they have to lower their prices for grocery stores. If you buy the milk directly from the, it's more expensive but at least you support them. Many villages here have their own farmers who provide them with dairy, meat and even vegetables/fruits. Their meat is either getting butchered by themselves, sold to local butchers or getting butchered by a bigger butcher company. Same for milk. Depends on if the farmer wants to, has the time for and the money to do it himself or not. Don't think anyone is forced to have their meat processed by the state. Can't find anything in regards to that. Maybe we should export some Yuropoor farmers to the US and make food great again

 

[LiquidKid]

Speaking of Whole Foods, about 30 minutes away there’s a lesser known national high end grocery store brand. I bet I’d I went there I’d find higher quality cheese and meats. Should I make the drive thread?

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

Florida has some of the best restaurants in the United States.

No restaurant is worth stepping foot in Florida.

 

[CHARizard]

All I can do is anecdotally confirm that you are wrong as fuck, but I cannot prove anything without doxing a place where I've worked.

I mean is it just flour, yeast, salt and water? For a standard loaf, is there a bunch of added shit in it? I would take you at your word but last time I went to the bakery section half the loaves had a bunch of extra shit in them based on the nutrition facts.

Specifically talking about these large grocery chains, like whole foods and places like safeway or food lion.

 

[AnOminous]

I can guarantee you the vast majority of Americans live within 30 minutes of one. It's a choice in America to eat shit. It's not a requirement.

It's annoying when retard foreigners act like the mere existence of shitty goyslop in the U.S. means we're somehow tied down and forced to eat it. Just fucking don't! Buy actual good food. I mean it's a valid criticism of Americans to point out we VOLUNTARILY eat utter goyslop, but to pretend we can't and don't also eat absolutely awesome stuff is annoying.

And also they're usually being hypocritical because nine times out of ten they also eat American goyslop.

I'm not going to pretend I don't ever eat something ridiculous like spam musubi, or even an absolutely chemical monstrosity like a Little Debbie Zebra Cake, but it isn't every meal.

 

[PeggieBigCock]

Try looking for an independent grocer that isn't owned by a giant multinational corporation like Amazon.

Lmao, lol, even the smaller chains get imports from companies owned by giant multinationals, this is impossible

 

[Marsh Rabbit]

This thread caused me to take a look at Tesco's bread products and while most of that shit is white bread (fuck you that one dude who claimed Europeans only ate the most whole of whole wheat bread) I did get super depressed looking at their food prices compared to America's.

To not be simping for Europe this entire post, have a look at the European bread (and enriched flour because Europeans eat plenty of white bread too. Unless your artisanal bread is using whole wheat or another whole grain, its white.)


These are three of the shitty sliced bread offered in the leading British supermarket.

I then checked their in-house baked bread.




Both the fresh bread and bagged bread are full of oils. Ascorbic acid, listed as a flour treatment agent, also functions as a preservative. Soybean flour is in two of the breads. These are much better than American brands, I'll admit. For comparison, I've included a in-store bread of an American chain brand. Essentially the same shit, except for sorbitan monostearate (a food additive approved by the EU). Maybe I'm in the wrong because I'm using Tesco's and not some super fancy local European supermarket, my bad.