deep thots on polyamory - and other relationships with more than 2 people

I'm not exactly apposed to polyamory, however, most polyamorous practitioners I've met usually end up lasting less than a year. Sounds like too much work to me.
 
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Humans aren't all that weaker than chimpanzees. The main difference is our muscles are more finely tuned to do more delicate tasks, which reduces the amount of brute force we exert on demand. You also forgot the most fun argument for monogamy in humans: boobs!
Compare humans to other apes and you'll find that our females have very pronounced breasts. The leading theory is they evolved to mimic the buttocks due to our bipedal gait. This means humans started mating face to face, which increases pair bonding. The children of these couplings thus had better odds of surviving if they had both parents invested.

RE: the thread title I'd say that polygamy 'works' in cases of warlords and that's about it. It's an inherently unstable system for anything long term.
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We are weaker to chimps, in strength, having even a 10% advantage will cause extremely different outcomes without tools which can get at max terminal velocity with less force, aside from that, that's still weaker, doing less brute force is being weaker, even more when the muscles are designed to not do those tasks, even more when we waste more time and energy by doing them, women normally don't have less muscle fibers than men, they just have more slower twitch fibres which generate the more resistance, less maximum force, which is the difference between humans and chimps (35%). for that reason we use intelligence, tools and resistance running to kill other animals, something which women and men do correctly and can repeat it against other animals, even more when resistance muscles are better at inputting the same strength extremely fast, something which humans did constantly, except in exceptional, but important circumstances, something which shows group hunting and the different advantages which complement on the same tasks, the simple act of not using that much strength to do our objectives makes strength less important, but that doesn't mean that it is a factor.

Aside from this, chimps are in comparison weaker to other animals (and are so fearful that they hide of them), other strong animals by other margins without comparing primates (and the thing we hunted 95% of the time) are 4x stronger than us, they are so strong that a men or a woman cannot defend itself, needing to attack with strategy and using our better resistance and intelligence, something which makes the strength point moot at trying to explain an inherent incapacity around differences between man and woman and the job of hunting or protecting a place, even more when we have different strengths which aid on all of these jobs. Strength in humans it's just good for one job, attacking other humans, which is weird, but important.

Even then, this was weird because gregarian societies normally didn't had infighting, for that reason no one felt the need to attack eachother, even more when females had other advantages at night and attacking the individual who helped you on the extremely important job of not dying in your sleep it's one of the most stupid things you could do.

Put a chimp and a human to fight and you will see the result after 10 seconds.

You don't even need that, the simple fact of our women being a little smaller around height it's a reflection of that too, women in general are smaller, but they are perfectly centered on height to have their faces at the same height when they are on top, this means that pair bonding between one person was a common thing, not the act of having relationships with everything you see.
 
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I would have loved to see the comments on that thread.
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Imma see if I can find it.

EDIT: On duckduckgo, I was able to find out that it's a real post by a person named ThrowRA3345454, but they have since deleted their username. From that alone, I can only assume it's real and not a troll.

An actual troll wouldn't delete their account out of embarrassment after making such post.

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Yarp64371234 said:
We are weaker to chimps, in strength, having even a 10% advantage will cause extremely different outcomes without tools which can get at max terminal velocity with less force, aside from that, that's still weaker, doing less brute force is being weaker, even more when the muscles are designed to not do those tasks, even more when we waste more time and energy by doing them, women normally don't have less muscle fibers than men, they just have more slower twitch fibres which generate the more resistance, less maximum force, which is the difference between humans and chimps (35%). for that reason we use intelligence, tools and resistance running to kill other animals, something which women and men do correctly and can repeat it against other animals, even more when resistance muscles are better at inputting the same strength extremely fast, something which humans did constantly, except in exceptional, but important circumstances, something which shows group hunting and the different advantages which complement on the same tasks, the simple act of not using that much strength to do our objectives makes strength less important, but that doesn't mean that it is a factor.

Aside from this, chimps are in comparison weaker to other animals (and are so fearful that they hide of them), other strong animals by other margins without comparing primates (and the thing we hunted 95% of the time) are 4x stronger than us, they are so strong that a men or a woman cannot defend itself, needing to attack with strategy and using our better resistance and intelligence, something which makes the strength point moot at trying to explain an inherent incapacity around differences between man and woman and the job of hunting or protecting a place, even more when we have different strengths which aid on all of these jobs. Strength in humans it's just good for one job, attacking other humans, which is weird, but important.

Even then, this was weird because gregarian societies normally didn't had infighting, for that reason no one felt the need to attack eachother, even more when females had other advantages at night and attacking the individual who helped you on the extremely important job of not dying in your sleep it's one of the most stupid things you could do.

Put a chimp and a human to fight and you will see the result after 10 seconds.

You don't even need that, the simple fact of our women being a little smaller around height it's a reflection of that too, women in general are smaller, but they are perfectly centered on height to have their faces at the same height when they are on top, this means that pair bonding between one person was a common thing, not the act of having relationships with everything you see.
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I think you undersell human strength by a fair deal; we're stronger than a great deal of creatures on our own. We aren't top tier gorilla strong, sure, but I've heard stories of dudes going apeshit with adrenaline and killing critters barehanded. One dude legit choked a cougar to death.
 
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Ser Prize said:
I think you undersell human strength by a fair deal; we're stronger than a great deal of creatures on our own. We aren't top tier gorilla strong, sure, but I've heard stories of dudes going apeshit with adrenaline and killing critters barehanded. One dude legit choked a cougar to death.
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Those are adrenaline instances, you don't want that happen to you, those are extreme moments where your body damages itself to solve something in a situation where you could die, that happens to everyone.
And by the things you are telling me, he didn't punch that cougar to death, he choked it, choking requires more than anything else, the strength to choke it (which all humans have), the resistance (which every human has) and a good position, obviously adrenaline makes you faster, but the act of choking just requires to be on the top of the cougar, the cougar can't use his back muscles to drop you, thus causing it's death.

That is an example of a human (man or female) using adrenaline and his advantages (resistance by going to his weakest spot and intelligence to know how to choke it) to kill it without using physical strength, even more when cougars have soft necks, ten seconds after trying to drop you the cougar will lose strength and start spasming, because it needs more oxygen for his stronger muscles, the cougar starts to back down rapidly and die after 2 minutes.

If you do the opposite, which is fighting it barehanded, you will die after a single swoop, which is the aspect i was talking about.

Critters barehand it's a normal aspect of humans tho, a single good punch of a male or female makes them explode, that's the reason they hide from you, even if you are a male or a female, for them, we are that leopard or tiger, we are so big that one single swoop and they die.
 
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I would have loved to see the comments on that thread.
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Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
Imma see if I can find it.

EDIT: On duckduckgo, I was able to find out that it's a real post by a person named ThrowRA3345454, but they have since deleted their username. From that alone, I can only assume it's real and not a troll.

An actual troll wouldn't delete their account out of embarrassment after making such post.

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They also posted it in relationship_advice but it was deleted without any response: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationsh..._my_son_15m_found_that_me_43f_and_my_husband/

Comment history from the account:
7/28/2021, 10:55:47 PM
No we stopped and have been spending the last few months figuring out what to do.
7/29/2021, 12:14:20 AM
My husband has explained it to him but that made it even worse because according to my husband my son is worried about his size and even asked his father if he was gonna end with someone who was just gonna sleep with other men because he was not good enough.

That's his impression and I personally am not a size queen the other men have been avarage sized like my husband but they feel different and it's more for me atleast being with other men something my husband enjoys.

But my sons seems to feel ashamed and terrified and my concern is that he will develop a hatred for women one that I inadverdently caused.

He also liked a girl at school one that he spent time with he has barely spoken to her these laste few months and she used to come over to visit all the time but lately he goes to school comes locks himself in his room with his computer and only speaks to his father.


I also had to block a user here who was into the same lifestyle as I was as she made some very inappropriate comments.
7/29/2021, 12:20:15 AM
His birthday is coming up in august I asked him if he wished for anything for his birthday just trying to break the ice.


He just said I wish you would leave with "Mike" (made up name) the other man I mentioned me and dad will be fine he said.
7/29/2021, 3:01:06 AM
What concerns me is after his first tantrum were he blew up at me he never did so again.

He looks at me with anger everytime he sees me and sad and depressed when he does not know I am looking at him.


Sometimes being a mom I just wanna give him a hug but I am the reason he feels this way and if I tried he would just pull away, I mean I tried carefully to touch his shoulder and he flinched.


He seems repulsed by me and I don't know what is going through his mind except for the few things he has shared with my husband.
7/29/2021, 3:59:08 PM
I agree I also think there is something more to this that hurts him on a personal level I wish he would share what that was I think there is more to this than just him finding out.

His father asked him if something happened at school since we both suspected there was more to this and he won't talk about it so something has happened.

He has agreed to talk to somebody he refused to see a female therapist so we found a male therapist and his father will be with him there since he agreed to that.

I wish he would just share it I would never mock him or make fun out him but he seems terrified to share whatever it is with me.

We are talking about a kid who before this all happened always gave me a hug before he went to school and was just perfect in every way and in less than a few days all of that was gone and has shut me out completely.
7/30/2021, 12:43:40 AM
I also would like to add that my sons mental health and my relationship to him is more important right now that comes first that's my first priority as a mother.


And yes it's more important than my sex life because if he suffers from depression or is dealing with somthing difficult that me and my husband are unaware of and that that him finding out caused him even more mental distress then yes that is more important than my own pleasure.


I have a friend of mine who lost her 14 year old son to suicide and I take mental health seriously and I don't wanna find my son dead.
7/30/2021, 4:11:08 PM
He saw a regular therapist today my husband informed of me of what has been happening since he went with him.


He feels lonely and struggled with severe insecurity he was bullied in the school showers last year for his penis size and finding those pictures and knowing what me and my husband enjoyed well you can imagine what went through his mind, he basiclly starting treated me like one of his bullies, I told him to ignore them and he did but he never told me what they bullied him for.


Him finding out was just one part of the story but it just made him feel even worse about himself and I have no idea what to say to him.


My husband told me he won't talk to me because he is scared that will laugh at him which is not easy for a mother to hear that her son is scared of her.

He feels very overprotective of his father and asked him in the session why he would live with someone who treated him like that referring to me.


I feel very lost here and he while he has not diagnosed with anything yet seems overly depressed when him and my husband came home.


He looks sad and depressed and have tried to talk to him all evening but he does not wanna talk to me.
10/25/2021, 9:50:56 PM
He is no longer telling his father to divorce me but he seems to have decided to shut me out for the time being, his birthday was in august I made him his favorite cake he did not eat one bite of it.

He went to school came home and had no interest in celebrating his birthday, his dad took him somewhere to eat and I was just alone in the house.

My husband is trying to get him to talk to me, but he just shuts down completely when my husband brings me up or he changes the subject.

He speaks to his father normally now but he only exchanges few words with me and that is when I ask him to do something just yes and no answers.

His therapist belives him being bullied for so long has allowed him to create an emotional wall, that he now has decided to use against me.

I have tried to break through that wall but the more I try, the more he seems to pull away.

Like he has decided he does not want to deal with me any more than he has to.

The only thing I can do right now is just be there for him, but since my first post he has just decided that keeping me at a distance is best for him.
 
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Win98SE said:
I've met several poly people and it's been a near-disaster every time. Observations:
  • The people involved are almost always fat, autistic, nonathletic, and have copy-paste nerd interests (Star Wars, LotR, computers.)
  • Polyamory will be crowbar'd into every conversation regardless of whether it makes sense.
  • Any attempt to talk about issues in your monogamous relationship will be met with condescending advice. Poly people believe that since their relationships take more work, so any issue in a monogamous relationship is simple and easy to solve by comparison. The reality is that polyamory is specifically designed to ignore real, valid issues like jealousy under the guise that someone's jealousy is strictly their problem, not yours, so their advice is usually "break up with them!" or "that's THEIR problem, not yours!" Also shit like, "You two just need to communicate," which means nothing to most people in functional relationships where the lines of communication are already open.
  • If they have kids, the kids are insanely fucked up and can't conduct themselves. This is probably due to the revolving door of partners that the parents force their kids to be around and treat as family.
  • If anyone in the relationship is married, a divorce is inevitable.
It doesn't work and hasn't ever worked.
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Christ, you described an old co-worker of mine to a T. Wondering if we had the same friend? He was a Le redditor, huge Star Wars and Marvel geek, openly scorned 'normie' hobbies and trends (while not realizing he's a consoomer and trend following nerd interests). He is also really fucking fat, has a neck beard, and had a wife and kid. Shortly after the wife gave birth, decided to go poly so his "sexual needs were met".

He would brag about how poly is for the enlightened folks who didn't get propagandized by Western relationship standards. He would talk and quote poly influencers about how humans were never meant to only be with one person. He'd use animal examples as 'proof' that humans were meant to just fuck like rabbits (and block anyone who pointed out animals that mated for life lol). He would talk about other cultures that had poly relationships, while ignoring that those cultures were either heavily sexist and forced women into it, or that the people were only poly because there weren't enough women/men for the population to have monogamous relationships.

After gay marriage was legalized, he would complain about how poly people are discriminated against and that poly marriage should be legalized too. He never could explain how that would legally work, especially with children involved, and especially if the poly relationship ended in a nasty divorce.

The most annoying thing he would do is talk about his family as an example of a healthy poly relationship. Except, if you were smart and read between the lines, you could tell it was NOT healthy at all. I was not surprised in the least when one day he announced that his wife was leaving him. From then on, he would talk about how his wife was a huge bitch, and to this day quotes a ton of MRA bullshit, especially about how unfair it is that women get child support.

I have not met one sane poly relationship. And I've literally only met one poly person that was good looking. Everyone else has been really fat and unattractive, socially inept losers, to put it bluntly.
 
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There's a cow I've been following that claims to be in a poly relationship (totally true and honest, guise) but this bitch gets jealous over the most asinine shit.

I'm convinced polyamory is for ugly people to get validation and nothing else. Everyone involved is so self absorbed and narcissistic that they believe they're doing something by making themselves the town bicycle.
 
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I literally have no idea how this works in practice and I never seen it work. Either the couples split/divorce or they go back to being monogamous and never speak of it again.
 
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Yarp64371234 said:
Critters barehand it's a normal aspect of humans tho, a single good punch of a male or female makes them explode, that's the reason they hide from you, even if you are a male or a female, for them, we are that leopard or tiger, we are so big that one single swoop and they die.
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It’s interesting though that they’ve found the stress response is much more strongly triggered by men for rodents, there is a particular smell they react to. Women aren’t generally known for killing rodents after all and I’ve always wondered if this was some weird hygienic adaptation of keeping toxoplasmosis and other parasites and pathogens carried by vermin from transmitting to developing fetuses.

Anyway poly is for the mentally ill, Alison and Jake Rapp should be the keystone example of dysfunctional, neurotic people who thought an “alternative” lifestyle was going to be fun and sexy but ended up being a cluster b nightmare
 
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Literally anything humans do that you put thought into is something that has always existed and simply wasn't that big a deal

That isn't in or not in support, I'm just saying, niggers talk all the time about what people did back in the day and yet I don't think any of them actually, like, speak to old people.

Being a homo isn't new, being a tranny isn't new, there has been plenty of times I've been talking to an older person and they brought up "____ lived with the ____s, they supposedly were just a boarder but we were all pretty sure he was ____'s boyfriend", or "____ was married to ____ but he liked to screw around and she never seemed too bothered by it" all this shit existed, it's only now that everyone's neurotic that they feel the need to dissect all kinds of stuff that never received much fanfare.

What I do know is that if you're doing something and feel the need to codify it with some kind of terminology then you're a bitch. Either do it or don't, but people need to stop trying to cope with the fact they feel shitty and insecure by demanding every second of their day be labeled, recognized, and praised by society at large.
 
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It’s interesting though that they’ve found the stress response is much more strongly triggered by men for rodents, there is a particular smell they react to. Women aren’t generally known for killing rodents after all and I’ve always wondered if this was some weird hygienic adaptation of keeping toxoplasmosis and other parasites and pathogens carried by vermin from transmitting to developing fetuses.

Anyway poly is for the mentally ill, Alison and Jake Rapp should be the keystone example of dysfunctional, neurotic people who thought an “alternative” lifestyle was going to be fun and sexy but ended up being a cluster b nightmare
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the study says that it's a stress response by the rodents, not the females, the real reason most likely is that (in my personal opinion and theory) rodents get fear of male rates from other places, so they enter in a fighting state, the reason they see males as dangerous is because it has the same hormones, just like other animals who don't see that well, even if we aren't doing anything dangerous just by the basis of smelling a shirt, remember that rats normally are in the dark and use their whiskers to smell on an area.

human women most likely killed rats, the reason they don't react is because they don't see, this could be used as an advantage for females which rats didn't evolve because it's part of all of their strategy, if females start killing rats on a massive scale (which men and women don't do right now), they will probably see if the thing that is trying to kill them is a human female.

"It wasn’t just men who caused the stress spike in the rodents, but any nearby male animal, including guinea pigs, rats, cats and dogs. Male cage-mates of the animal being tested were the only exception, and produced no changes in stress hormone levels."
 
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Ser Prize said:
One dude legit choked a cougar to death.
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Yarp64371234 said:
And by the things you are telling me, he didn't punch that cougar to death, he choked it, choking requires more than anything else, the strength to choke it (which all humans have), the resistance (which every human has) and a good position, obviously adrenaline makes you faster, but the act of choking just requires to be on the top of the cougar, the cougar can't use his back muscles to drop you, thus causing it's death.
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It was a malnourished juvenile lion.

My deep thots on polyamory? Burn every copy of The Ethical Slut.
 
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