deep thots on polyamory - and other relationships with more than 2 people

[Blasterman]

Polygamy, as in one alpha chimp having a harem of females for himself, is somewhat viable and is even the natural state among primates, including us humans, and other species that pursue a tournament-based mating strategy (lions, elephant seals etc.). It was the norm in our very early history and can still be observed among very primitive tribes.

Monogamy became an institution to stop guys from constantly killing each other over women, thus turning violent male competition into productive male cooperation. While monogamy is for us humans an artificial construct, having a civilisation that is more advanced than an ooga-booga bush tribe is impossible without it. Monogamous marriage is civilisation itself.

On a different note: If your girlfriend is proposing a poly- or open relationship, it doesn't mean she wants to cheat on you, she already has.

Easily the most reasonable answer here. The harder you think, the more you realize we were biologically programmed for polygyny. Why do guys universally find lesbians to be hot (the concept, not necessarily the girls themselves)? Because men were programmed to see that as a form of pleasing from the women in the harem themselves.

There also is something about that 1:1 ratio between men and women. However, it's starting to slowly change.... in favor of women. Most developed countries now have a 1,1:1 ratio in favor of females at birth. If this keeps going (and pretty much every single research points to it being the case), then we may actually have to start reverting to polygamy to maintain the overall genetic stability. To that point I personally am for the decriminalization (but not full legalization or public approval) of polygamy. Something in the vein of Utah giving you a very minor slap on the wrist. It's just not an act that warrants prison sentences.

 

[Saint Agustin]

You fucking virgins talking about Polygamy like you slay pussy left and right! Get real you guys have ZERO BITCHES!!!

At least get your dick inside a pussy before deep throating concepts and ideas that revolve around sex.

 

[Stan]

It’s cool when I do it.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

It's only based if the person doing it is Mormon.

 

[Wally Paulnuts]

You fucking virgins talking about Polygamy like you slay pussy left and right! Get real you guys have ZERO BITCHES!!!

At least get your dick inside a pussy before deep throating concepts and ideas that revolve around sex.

 

[74164978231]

While monogamy is for us humans an artificial construct

I dunno about that. If it is artificial why is being cheated on or dumped such a painful experience that in the case of cheating can drive otherwise sane people to murder?

Also marriage is kind of a universal concept among human cultures, even those disconnected tribal highlander types in papa. On the otherhand, Polygamy is not nearly as widespread and among certain cultures like Western ones is almost nonexistant in recorded history except for heavily persecuted groups like Mormons.

 

[Fatboi Gus]

How difficult is it REALLY to just not be a whore, men included?

 

[The Gene Genie]

My patience can barely deal with one woman, let alone two or more. Fuck that.

 

[bile demon]

The fact that monogamous societies went on to do things like invent medicine and plumbing and space travel while poly societies have always been and will always be spear chucking cannibal shitholes says plenty.

Today I will remind them.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

The fact that r/polyamory, a subreddit (which, you would think, would be full of nothing but happy cheerleaders of the poly lifestyle and successful stories of polyamory would abound there), is actually full of nothing but horror stories about how polyamory ruined their life, marriage, gave them STDs, alienated their family and kids, and so on, is all you need to know about polyamory.

It doesn't work.

 

[LurkTrawl]

The naturalist fallacy is for retards.

And polygamy is just signing up for being bitched at in Dolby High Definition™ surround sound.

 

[God of Nothing]

The naturalist fallacy is for retards.

And polygamy is just signing up for being bitched at in Dolby High Definition™ surround sound.

It also fails naturalistically because that only "worked" when we were tribal barbarians who killed and raped each other all the time. Marriage and monogamy are a tradition in nearly every part of the world because it brings stability and actually promotes population growth. It's a natural evolution from polygamy.

 

[LurkTrawl]

It also fails naturalistically because that only "worked" when we were tribal barbarians who killed and raped each other all the time. Marriage and monogamy are a tradition in nearly every part of the world because it brings stability and actually promotes population growth. It's a natural evolution from polygamy.

Well, that, and the fact that for every tribe you can point to where the village chief has a harem, there's another with marriage practices dating back to prehistory.

It's not like monogamy is particularly unique to humans either. There's more biological evidence of monogamy than polygamy/polyamory in humans. I could go into that but I prefer making the "you're going to get bitched at in stereo" joke when I see it come up as a discussion. It's just not a topic worth considering in any seriousness, as well as having been discussed in various societies dating back to antiquity. Like, a topic that shitposters(shitcarvers?) in the roman forum were discussing millennia ago - it's been done to death and back.

 

[God of Nothing]

Well, that, and the fact that for every tribe you can point to where the village chief has a harem, there's another with marriage practices dating back to prehistory.

It's not like monogamy is particularly unique to humans either. There's more biological evidence of monogamy than polygamy/polyamory in humans. I could go into that but I prefer making the "you're going to get bitched at in stereo" joke when I see it come up as a discussion. It's just not a topic worth considering in any seriousness, as well as having been discussed in various societies dating back to antiquity. Like, a topic that shitposters(shitcarvers?) in the roman forum were discussing millennia ago - it's been done to death and back.

unfortunately people will unironically use it as an excuse as for why it is happening and will continue to happen
specifically politicians who are realizing all the productive people are dropping out of society and dying off while women congregate around a select group of men who can trigger all their primitive desires

 

[Moths]

In the experience of a friend of mine being added to a couple as a polyamory is usually so you can be a target of abuse rather than the partner

 

[Kali Muscle]

Easily the most reasonable answer here. The harder you think, the more you realize we were biologically programmed for polygyny. Why do guys universally find lesbians to be hot (the concept, not necessarily the girls themselves)? Because men were programmed to see that as a form of pleasing from the women

Women have to actually raise the babies, you know, we have to be happy so that the babies get to grow and not be thrown off a cliff. We aren't monkeys. The desire for a partner and love is as "artificial" as a fully developed frontal lobe. There are plenty of lower life forms that bond.
Women don't want to be in a harem, that is proof enough that were not a polygyny species, but this vision of the world through solely a dominant-dominated lens and seeing women as these feelingless things is very sick. Humans are not a species reliant on hierarchical dominance, we are cooperative, those of us with brains, that is.

 

[del_toid]

Current polygamy in the west is born out of decadence and hedonism and won't work, at least in a healthy and productive way.

A bunch of sci-fi authors seem to love the idea of polygamy, and the best depiction of how and why it might be done is in the book, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, where the Moon was used as a penal colony like Australia. The male/female ratio was super tilted so people who lived there set up different forms of group marriages and killed the men who got overly territorial. The main character was in a "line marriage" that basically acted as an opt-in family that stretched on for hundreds of years. It was more like a tribe that elected to bring in new husbands/wives, voted on family business matters, etc etc.

Idk, seemed like it could work if it were necessary because of extant factors like in the book, but those factors don't exist right now and monogamy is the best form of relationship as a result.

 

[74164978231]

Current polygamy in the west is born out of decadence and hedonism and won't work, at least in a healthy and productive way.

A bunch of sci-fi authors seem to love the idea of polygamy, and the best depiction of how and why it might be done is in the book, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, where the Moon was used as a penal colony like Australia. The male/female ratio was super tilted so people who lived there set up different forms of group marriages and killed the men who got overly territorial. The main character was in a "line marriage" that basically acted as an opt-in family that stretched on for hundreds of years. It was more like a tribe that elected to bring in new husbands/wives, voted on family business matters, etc etc.

Idk, seemed like it could work if it were necessary because of extant factors like in the book, but those factors don't exist right now and monogamy is the best form of relationship as a result.

Dont confuse eccentric types self inserting their jerk off material/kinks into their works with genuine good intention thought experiments.

See Frank Herbet and the fish speakers/honored matres in later Dune novels for another good example of this.

 

[del_toid]

Or Niven in "Ringworld"

Dont confuse eccentric types self inserting their jerk off material/kinks into their works with genuine good intention thought experiments.

See Frank Herbet and the fish speakers/honored matres in later Dune novels for another good example of this.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

In poly there's an active manipulator who just wants to fuck and mooch from different peiple and then beta cucks who orbit that person because they have low self esteem or feel tolerating an emotionally abusive arrangement is the only way to get breadcrums of affection.

Poly is always one sided even when they claim partners have equal rights and can both cheat. Its never the case. Someone is always getting the short end of the stick

Most poly people are fat and ugly and i would bot have sex with them. Its a scheme for low quality people to find other low quality people and make a secual time-share scam . Decent folk with something to bring to a relationship don't need poly and wouldn't tolerate it.