deep thots on polyamory - and other relationships with more than 2 people

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The Oneida Community (19th Century American utopian socialists) practiced a sort of polyamory called complex marriage where anybody could consensually hang anybody they weren’t directly related to and the children were raised communally. To prevent unwanted pregnancy you’d pull out, and to make sure no unplanned pregnancy happened from the young ones screwing up, the teenage girls/boys would be paired off with middle aged men/women.

Who wanted want a woman to train them as a teenager? Sounds great.

 

[Uncle Phil]

The people involved are almost always fat, autistic, nonathletic, and have copy-paste nerd interests (Star Wars, LotR, computers.)

That's what I've observed, with one specific exception.

I've known three male acquaintances who went poly and two of them were spergy NPC fatties. One got married around age 30 and in less than a year his hambeast wife said "poly or quit" and he went along with it. For a while he would talk about how great it was when she would bring some girl home for a threeway, which I think happened a handful of times. On her end, she quickly obtained a boyfriend with whom she would spend a couple of nights a week and even a lot of holidays. It's utter, utter cuckdom, and I believe he put up with it because she makes the majority of their household income while he's an underemployed doofus. The other NPC fatty is one of the biggest wokesters I've ever met in real life, living off a tugboat for anxiety or some equally bullshit thing, and spending all his time on social media echochambering with other lefties, sucking up as the cis-het-white-dude doormat. Both of these guys are thoroughly unaccomplished, unsuccessful men with no power in their relationships.

Which brings us to the exception. I do know one guy (also a serious wokester) but also a competitive athlete with a very cut body, and a solo homeowner with a good salary. He got into a good career very young and for a couple years, he sucked up the loser life living at home with his dad while making good money so that he could then buy a relatively new house in an affluent suburb. This guy is now fucking killing it at the poly game. For a while, a married couple moved in and rented a room from him, and he was openly schtupping the wife. They're out of the picture now but he's still renting rooms to a couple of people, and generally fucking at least one of them at any given time. This dude is living the life that the other poly guys wish they were, but it works for him because he is attractive and successful. Different power dynamic, different results.

Like most things, poly is a lot better if you have money. It doesn't work for schlubby guys who think it will change their lives. It just ruins their relationships and puts them in awful, shameful situations.

 

['Ole Dente]

My experience with polyamory:

On 2 separate ocassions I flirted and hung out with a person (had this happen twice in my life, 2 different people), sparks were flying, I had a crush on them. Then they told me they were polyamorous and in an open relationship. Aaaaand that's where my poly experience ended.

A girlfriend of mine once said "I want a poly relationship" and I remember what I said verbatim, it was the only time this issue was brought up in my life.

"I have no interest whatsoever in exploring that. I think it's very cool that you opened up to me and you communicated this to me, I encourage you doing so in the future with other things that are perhaps delicate or sensitive, but if you pursue a future with statistically unrealistic and unstable relationships, I will have absolutely no part in your life."

I thought I handled that pretty well lads, considering how fucking mad I was.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I deeply condemn polyamoury as a desperate form of lust.

 

[SwanSwanson]

"Polyamory" is degenerate trash. Polygamy is based and trad.

 

[totally not CIA agent]

THREAD REVIVE. Polygamy(I know it's ackshually polyamory but who fucking cares, it's the far more common version) is fucking gross. I've yet to seen an example of a society doing it where it didn't involve women being forced into it and often it involves said women being childen, the modern day polyamorists are all narcissists and coomers who try to pretend muh ancient nigguhz kangz n shiet were all pansexual polyamorist coomers until dah ebil Abrahamic religions stopper that.

 

[Help I'm A BritFag]

I find it amusing that all the poly freaks I encounter on dating apps are calling themselves ENM now (ethical non-monogamy) as an attempt to re-brand themselves due to the degenerate connotations polyamory has, kind of like how paedos call themselves MAPs

 

[74164978231]

Polyamory/open relationships are social dynamics for the mentally, emotionally broken individuals who are entirely incapable of forming healthy intimate bonds with another human.

Ive personally known three individuals who where very close to me who ended up in the poly/open lifestyle.

#1 is a egotistical degenerate, serial cheater whose only goal in life was to sleep with as many women as possible, utterly ignoring his children while doing so
#2 was a person who was sexually abused as a child and subsequently raised two children with their own serious issues, engaged in unethical sexual behavior with #1
#3 is a person who was abused as a child resulting in serious attachment issues in addition to being the gold standard for bipolar disorder

Civilization at its core is suppressing random desires and adopting a common set of principles to achieve greater and greater success. Polyamory/open relationships is the exact opposite of that, its the embracing of our most basic carnal desires. That is why anything other than stable, monogamous relationships should be detested.

"Polyamory" is degenerate trash. Polygamy is based and trad.

Only a coomer who cant see farther than his dick would say polygamy is good.

Humans essentially have a 1:1 male/female ratio. If a man marries 2 or 3 women, that means 1 or 2 men are unable to find a mate. What do you think happens to the men in a polygamous society who are deprived of ever having the ability to find a mate?

tldr for 75 iq types; polygamy is absolutely horrific for men.

 

[Male Idiot]

The only acceptable form of polyamory is a muslim man and his harem of wives. That is acceptable to Allah, peace be upon him, and does not allowing cucking.

 

[SwanSwanson]

Only a coomer who cant see farther than his dick would say polygamy is good.

Humans essentially have a 1:1 male/female ratio. If a man marries 2 or 3 women, that means 1 or 2 men are unable to find a mate. What do you think happens to the men in a polygamous society who are deprived of ever having the ability to find a mate?

tldr for 75 iq types; polygamy is absolutely horrific for men.

Here's the thing, alot of men end up being taken out of commission for marriage due to death, old age, being retarded etc. Polygamy helps to deal with that, also it helps with men in marriages with older women, older women who tend to lose all libido over the years.

 

[Wally Paulnuts]

The fact that monogamous societies went on to do things like invent medicine and plumbing and space travel while poly societies have always been and will always be spear chucking cannibal shitholes says plenty.

 

[74164978231]

You said it pauly.

Here's the thing, alot of men end up being taken out of commission for marriage due to death, old age, being retarded etc. Polygamy helps to deal with that, also it helps with men in marriages with older women, older women who tend to lose all libido over the years.

You live in a universe where women dont die or become unsuitable for marriage as well?

But otherwise yes, lets adopt a clearly shitty social order all because 1-2% of the population. Thats worked out splendidly with the widespread acceptance of homosexuality.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

A girlfriend of mine once said "I want a poly relationship" and I remember what I said verbatim, it was the only time this issue was brought up in my life.

"I have no interest whatsoever in exploring that. I think it's very cool that you opened up to me and you communicated this to me, I encourage you doing so in the future with other things that are perhaps delicate or sensitive, but if you pursue a future with statistically unrealistic and unstable relationships, I will have absolutely no part in your life."

I thought I handled that pretty well lads, considering how fucking mad I was.

Never forget the mere act of asking for this is an evil act in itself. When you ask for this, what you are doing is manipulating someone's affection of you to get what you want. The entire act of asking is predating on your love for another person to use you. Women know this and they will actively sabotage their friends relationships by duping them into asking for this. It is 100% purely an evil action. Treat it as such.

 

['Ole Dente]

Never forget the mere act of asking for this is an evil act in itself. When you ask for this, what you are doing is manipulating someone's affection of you to get what you want. The entire act of asking is predating on your love for another person to use you. Women know this and they will actively sabotage their friends relationships by duping them into asking for this. It is 100% purely an evil action. Treat it as such.

I think that's probably pretty accurate with some women.

This woman was just young and swept up with what her friends have been doing, she's also been pretty curious for most of her life and I value that curiosity, even though it sometimes takes you down a strange road. She asked, I said no, we had a reasonable conversation about the entire thing with no manipulation or screaming and everything worked out for the best. It was definitely not the typical female conversation and I was grateful for that.

It worked out well in the end, lads. Even until this day. Sometimes you can fix them.

 

[Lorgar]

Ethical non monogamy is an oxymoronic statement.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Humans essentially have a 1:1 male/female ratio. If a man marries 2 or 3 women, that means 1 or 2 men are unable to find a mate. What do you think happens to the men in a polygamous society who are deprived of ever having the ability to find a mate?

You give them a sword, and a camel or a boat and aim them towards infidel countries and tell them to find their own wives.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Humans essentially have a 1:1 male/female ratio. If a man marries 2 or 3 women, that means 1 or 2 men are unable to find a mate. What do you think happens to the men in a polygamous society who are deprived of ever having the ability to find a mate?

It is called the bare branches theory or phenomenon and there are few ways to destabilize a society faster. F Tiger Devlin discusses related matters in his tract Sexual Utopia in Power.

 

[Hyro]

There's a really dumb idea that jealousy is bad. That if you want monogomy then it's because you're insecure and jealous.
The reality is, there's nothing wrong with being insecure and jealous, and that people who aren't tend to be naive walking door mats, the kind of overly trusting, hyper altruistic mindset that leads to people getting used and abused by everyone they meet.

Jealousy as an emotion exists for a reason, it's there to tell you you're getting fucked over.

 

[Fougaro]

Polygamy, as in one alpha chimp having a harem of females for himself, is somewhat viable and is even the natural state among primates, including us humans, and other species that pursue a tournament-based mating strategy (lions, elephant seals etc.). It was the norm in our very early history and can still be observed among very primitive tribes.

Monogamy became an institution to stop guys from constantly killing each other over women, thus turning violent male competition into productive male cooperation. While monogamy is for us humans an artificial construct, having a civilisation that is more advanced than an ooga-booga bush tribe is impossible without it. Monogamous marriage is civilisation itself.

On a different note: If your girlfriend is proposing a poly- or open relationship, it doesn't mean she wants to cheat on you, she already has.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Line marriage is hella based.
You basically have replacement wives and husbands so that when the old ones die off there's still spouses. Because the marriage never ends, capital accumulates. Because your brother-husband/sister-wife has been in the marriage longer than you, you have someone to train you not just on how to be a spouse but on how to get along as the spouse of these SPECIFIC people.