Delusion and Denial

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Anchuent Christory said:
But really his inability to talk at a young age was more to do with his upbringing (or lack of) than any mental illness. That's if you believe Cole Smithy's account of the way Chris was treated as an infant of course.
Cole's stories really shouldn't be taken that seriously without something to confirm them. He's really bitter about Barb and how she wouldn't tell him the truth about his father.

Ultimately they might be accurate, but we have no reason to believe that they are.
 
Speech impediment is common among autistic children. Most get over it, at least to some degree. Some remain mute their whole lives.

That's one of the differences between Asperger syndrome and straight-on autism. Kids with Asperger's don't have speech problems. Chris was mute for a few years, so by definition he's vanilla HFA and not an Aspie.
 
That's one of the differences between Asperger syndrome and straight-on autism. Kids with Asperger's don't have speech problems. Chris was mute for a few years, so by definition he's vanilla HFA and not an Aspie.

Aren't those now considered to be the same thing anyways?
 
Bgheff said:
That's one of the differences between Asperger syndrome and straight-on autism. Kids with Asperger's don't have speech problems. Chris was mute for a few years, so by definition he's vanilla HFA and not an Aspie.

Aren't those now considered to be the same thing anyways?
No. They fall under the same heading; the designation "Asperger syndrome" has been dropped, but it was always considered an autism spectrum disorder.

I believe the thinking behind the name-change was because the divisions between various autism spectrum disorders can be pretty blurry, and trying to make clear subdivisions, i.e. saying someone has X disorder but not Y, could cause people who aren't exactly one or the other to be forced into a one-size-fits-all mold where they don't belong. Asperger syndrome ("the disorder formerly known as Asperger symdrome"?) is characterized by someone not having the typical developmental delays in things like speech and early learning. Dropping the name doesn't mean all autistics are the same, rather it's an acknowledgement that fitting people into neat categories just isn't possible. In any case, CWC was mute for years, so he didn't meet the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's.
 
Smokedaddy said:
Bgheff said:
That's one of the differences between Asperger syndrome and straight-on autism. Kids with Asperger's don't have speech problems. Chris was mute for a few years, so by definition he's vanilla HFA and not an Aspie.

Aren't those now considered to be the same thing anyways?
No. They fall under the same heading; the designation "Asperger syndrome" has been dropped, but it was always considered an autism spectrum disorder.

I believe the thinking behind the name-change was because the divisions between various autism spectrum disorders can be pretty blurry, and trying to make clear subdivisions, i.e. saying someone has X disorder but not Y, could cause people who aren't exactly one or the other to be forced into a one-size-fits-all mold where they don't belong. Asperger syndrome ("the disorder formerly known as Asperger symdrome"?) is characterized by someone not having the typical developmental delays in things like speech and early learning. Dropping the name doesn't mean all autistics are the same, rather it's an acknowledgement that fitting people into neat categories just isn't possible. In any case, CWC was mute for years, so he didn't meet the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's.

I personally hate the way society seems to want to label and categorize people. Autism is a very real thing, but far too many people apply the term to themselves to excuse their social inadequacies .
 
raymond said:
Makes me wonder if the other kids in school teased him by calling him retarded or something. I think he hates being called that even more than he hates being called naive.

More then likely due to his clown shirts, high pitched voice and muscular bosoms they called him a homosexual significantly more then they made fun of him for being a 'tard.

He says that he is straight like it's a reflex and has literal fears of things that resemble penises. His childlike mind only cultivated his phobia stronger.

Chris's fear is like literally fearing the monster under the bed, except he thinks the monster wears a pickle suit and has black skin.
 
Well, his bosoms weren't so large and muscular in his school days XD
I think he probably did get mocked more for being weird and slow than for being gay. Like that whole thing where kids would throw pennies at him to watch him pick them up.
 
While I enjoy endless Chris speculation, I think the time and energy devoted to looking this deep into the "why" of Chris is a waste. The more you over think his antics, a certain charm is lost.
 
I don't think Chris is in "denial". Denial can only happen if you are consciously aware that things aren't the way you wish them to be. Chris however seems to genuinely believe whatever version of reality he likes.

This could be just pure Autism, but he seems to have a very childish perception of things (think 6-7 years old). This might just be because of his upbringing, but he never moved past that stage in life where you take lessons literally (especially when it comes to dealing with people), and have a very limited view of the world. Small children tend to not expand their view of reality when presented with new information, but rather incorporate that information into their own view of reality, even if magical thinking is required. Granted, the cwcki paints a biased view of him, but it seems like he follows that way of thinking perfectly.

As for Autism, as most psychiatric conditions nowadays it is a spectrum, meaning not all people show the exact same symptoms and can't be labeled one condition or another. A person nowadays would be diagnosed with ASD, whereas previously they would be classed in "ranks" that included DDNOS, which is basically the medical term for "there's something wrong with this kid, but it doesn't match the descriptions".
 
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