Opinion Deplatforming hate forums doesn't work, British boffins warn - Industry intervention alone can't deal with harassment


Depriving online hate groups of network services - otherwise known as deplatforming - doesn't work very well, according to boffins based in the United Kingdom.

In a recently released preprint paper, Anh Vu, Alice Hutchings, and Ross Anderson, from the University of Cambridge and the University of Edinburgh, examine efforts to disrupt harassment forum Kiwi Farms and find that community and industry interventions have been largely ineffective.

Their study, undertaken as lawmakers around the world are considering policies that aspire to moderate unlawful or undesirable online behavior, reveals that deplatforming has only a modest impact and those running harmful sites remain free to carry on harassing people through other services.

"Deplatforming users may reduce activity and toxicity levels of relevant actors on Twitter and Reddit, limit the spread of conspiratorial disinformation on Facebook, and minimize disinformation and extreme speech on YouTube," they write in their paper. "But deplatforming has often made hate groups and individuals even more extreme, toxic and radicalized."

As examples, they cite how Reddit's ban of r/incels in November 2017 led to the creation of two incel domains, which then grew rapidly. They also point to how users banned from Twitter and Reddit "exhibit higher levels of toxicity when migrating to Gab," among other similar situations.

The researchers focus on the deplatforming of Kiwi Farms, an online forum where users participate in efforts to harass prominent online figures. One such person was a Canadian transgender streamer known as @Keffals on Twitter and Twitch.

In early August last year, a Kiwi Farms forum member allegedly sent a malicious warning to police in London, Ontario, claiming that @Keffals had committed murder and was planning further violence, which resulted in her being "swatted - a form of attack that has proved lethal in some cases.

Following further doxxing, threats, and harassment, @Keffals organized a successful campaign to pressure Cloudflare to stop providing Kiwi Farms with reverse proxy security protection, which helped the forum defend against denial-of-service attacks.

The research paper outlines the various interventions taken by internet companies against Kiwi Farms. After Cloudflare dropped Kiwi Farms on September 3 last year, DDoS-Guard did so two days later. The following day, the Internet Archive and hCaptcha severed ties.

On September 10, the kiwifarms.is domain stopped working. Five days later, security firm DiamWall suspended service for those operating the site.

On September 18, all the domains used by the forum became inaccessible, possibly related to an alleged data breach. But then, as the researchers observe, the Kiwi Farms dark web forum was back by September 29. There were further intermittent outages on October 9 and October 22, but since then Kiwi Farms has been active, apart from brief service interruptions.

"The disruption was more effective than previous DDoS attacks on the forum, as observed from our datasets. Yet the impact, although considerable, was short-lived." the researchers state.

"While part of the activity was shifted to Telegram, half of the core members returned quickly after the forum recovered. And while most casual users were shaken off, others turned up to replace them. Cutting forum activity and users by half might be a success if the goal of the campaign is just to hurt the forum, but if the objective was to 'drop the forum,' it has failed."

Hate is difficult to shift

One reason for the durability of such sites, the authors suggest, is that activists get bored and move on, while trolls are motivated to endure and survive. They argue that deplatforming doesn't look like a long-term solution because, while casual harassment forum participants may scatter, core members become more determined and can recruit replacements through the publicity arising from censorship.

Vu, Hutchings, and Anderson argue that deplatforming by itself is insufficient and needs to be done in the context of a legal regime that can enforce compliance. Unfortunately, they note, this framework doesn't currently exist.

"We believe the harms and threats associated with online hate communities may justify action despite the right to free speech," the authors conclude. "But within the framework of the EU and the Council of Europe which is based on the European Convention on Human Rights, such action will have to be justified as proportionate, necessary and in accordance with the law."

They also contend that police work needs to be paired with social work, specifically education and psycho-social support, to deprogram hate among participants in such forums.

"There are multiple research programs and field experiments on effective ways to detox young men from misogynistic attitudes, whether in youth clubs and other small groups, at the scale of schools, or even by gamifying the identification of propaganda that promotes hate," they argue. "But most countries still lack a unifying strategy for violence reduction." ®
 
You may remember these midwits from such films as "Abu Gharib was ineffective because it just provided radical islamists with increased resentment and networking opportunities", "The Second Amendment can't repel government violence even though Vietnamese peasants and Afghan shepards managed it", and of course "Castrating yourself changes your skeletal structure"!
 
they literally want the EU to develop a framework to justify imprisoning people in 'deprogramming camps' where they can 'detoxified' people from their thoughts

they consider this a more likely alternative than shutting down the forum

lmao
It's wild how they frame it up with "psychological care" but you know if you get sent to a brainwash facility run by wokies you WILL be tortured, starved, sexually assaulted, maybe even killed depending on how jank it is, who knows they might just say fuck it and pull a China, steal organs from persons classified as "hateful", test experimental medical research on us. All the shit they wanted to do already but never had the perfect justification that is "bigotry"
 
You're washed up faggot. Just stop. You're embarrassing the rest of us.

I wouldn't mind meeting Dyn IRL. I think it would be fascinating to meet an Abo that doesn't just drink, rape, and fling feces at other people.

I'll start planning out fun camp activities we can all do.

Like "Pin The Girldick On The Tranny"?
 
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no fucking way this chink is vertically challenged
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No wonder he advocates for the troons, he's the right height to be transitioning any minute now to get access to those women's spaces. And I bet in the dark of his dormitory, he's tweeting away at other manlets like Hotwheels or Berwick, bragging "look at my symmetrical limbs, perfectly suited for ambulatory motion! Fuck you, I can tinywalk on my own you little scum!"

He's lucky to be protected on college grounds, if I ran across such a goose-high pest I'd swat him with an umbrella like the flapping, honking nuisance he is.
 
No wonder he advocates for the troons, he's the right height to be transitioning any minute now to get access to those women's spaces. And I bet in the dark of his dormitory, he's tweeting away at other manlets like Hotwheels or Berwick, bragging "look at my symmetrical limbs, perfectly suited for ambulatory motion! Fuck you, I can tinywalk on my own you little scum!"

He's lucky to be protected on college grounds, if I ran across such a goose-high pest I'd swat him with an umbrella like the flapping, honking nuisance he is.
Here is his Twitter. He is a Keffals follower.
 
This is antisemitic. We are critical resource for the ADL.

It's funny you should say that, there was an update to the original article in the OP:

Updated to add​

In a comment received after this story was filed, a spokesperson for the Anti-Defamation League disagreed with the report's findings. "We issued a report on this in February, and, in short, we do believe deplatforming is effective," the ADL spokesperson said.
 
I only want to go if I get to keep my phone so we can all get forum points.
They’ll only let you post on Twitter and Tumblr.
Cool put me in the camp, actually radicalise me, go for it. I want to laugh and retards in private and be left alone to live a normal life. But sure radicalise me into a proponent for the total dissolution of the government, turn a forum full of autists laughing at autists, into radicalised people with a grudge against the state.
I wonder, would they give us serialized tattoos?
 
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