Now it's T.K. and Kari and the gang's turn to watch their Digimon vanish before their eyes as they grow up. Davis is going to be the only one who'll be able to keep Veemon the entire time before the Digital World is reopened because he's a totes kid at heart and is special (in the head) like that.
That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it. Fucking hell, Toei, fuck off with the Adventure pandering while telling us fans to leave you guys alone and just go do more original Digimon stuff. Ghost Game is apparently doing well, so just stick with things like that and leave Tai and the gang alone.
Now it's T.K. and Kari and the gang's turn to watch their Digimon vanish before their eyes as they grow up. Davis is going to be the only one who'll be able to keep Veemon the entire time before the Digital World is reopened because he's a totes kid at heart and is special (in the head) like that.
That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it. Fucking hell, Toei, fuck off with the Adventure pandering while telling us fans to leave you guys alone and just go do more original Digimon stuff. Ghost Game is apparently doing well, so just stick with things like that and leave Tai and the gang alone.
I'd say someone at Toei is paying attention and they seem to listen to critics. Kizuna barely acknowledge tri, only showing the Mary Sue for like 1 second. Maybe they saw how the whole "just grow up already" contradics the current state of Toei
Now it's T.K. and Kari and the gang's turn to watch their Digimon vanish before their eyes as they grow up. Davis is going to be the only one who'll be able to keep Veemon the entire time before the Digital World is reopened because he's a totes kid at heart and is special (in the head) like that.
That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it. Fucking hell, Toei, fuck off with the Adventure pandering while telling us fans to leave you guys alone and just go do more original Digimon stuff. Ghost Game is apparently doing well, so just stick with things like that and leave Tai and the gang alone.
Personally my current prediction is that somehow through this “totally legit first DigiDestined” they’ll find a way to recover his Digimon and by extension Agumon, Gabumon, and Biyomon. I genuinely do not see the 02 kids losing their Digimon, since as we saw in Kizuna you only lose Digimon privileges if you lose your “potential”. Which I can only interpret that as a vague way of saying you’re stuck in life and somehow you’ve reached your “limit”. And since Joe & Co. didn’t lose them, we can (probably) assume the 02 kids are safe since they’re not train wrecks.
Which just dissecting the “OG DigiDestined” for a second, isn’t the earliest known DigiDestineds Oikawa and Cody’s dad? And that was in what, the 80s? How the Hell can this Rui guy *precede* that? He looks to be the same age as the 02 kids. Like, I know time travel/dimension hopping isn’t out of the question (Ryo being the main example, hopping from Pre-02 Adventure to Tamers) but it still seems like Toei didn’t think this through.
Personally my current prediction is that somehow through this “totally legit first DigiDestined” they’ll find a way to recover his Digimon and by extension Agumon, Gabumon, and Biyomon. I genuinely do not see the 02 kids losing their Digimon, since as we saw in Kizuna you only lose Digimon privileges if you lose your “potential”. Which I can only interpret that as a vague way of saying you’re stuck in life and somehow you’ve reached your “limit”. And since Joe & Co. didn’t lose them, we can (probably) assume the 02 kids are safe since they’re not train wrecks.
Which just dissecting the “OG DigiDestined” for a second, isn’t the earliest known DigiDestineds Oikawa and Cody’s dad? And that was in what, the 80s? How the Hell can this Rui guy *precede* that? He looks to be the same age as the 02 kids. Like, I know time travel/dimension hopping isn’t out of the question (Ryo being the main example, hopping from Pre-02 Adventure to Tamers) but it still seems like Toei didn’t think this through.
There's a reason Hiroyuki Kakudou left during Kizuna's production. Kizuna honestly was a better conclusion than whatever the fuck Tri tried to be, but it definitely contradicted Kakudou's vision of the series and it might've been done on purpose by Toei/Bandai for all we know.
There's a reason Hiroyuki Kakudou left during Kizuna's production. Kizuna honestly was a better conclusion than whatever the fuck Tri tried to be, but it definitely contradicted Kakudou's vision of the series and it might've been done on purpose by Toei/Bandai for all we know.
I forgot that dude left and thought kizuna was gonna be worst than Tri. Kizuna was more competent but does sort of shit on the original message of the adventure show as opposed to tri which shits on its own philosophy as well as the previous established philosophy of the show
There's a reason Hiroyuki Kakudou left during Kizuna's production. Kizuna honestly was a better conclusion than whatever the fuck Tri tried to be, but it definitely contradicted Kakudou's vision of the series and it might've been done on purpose by Toei/Bandai for all we know.
Honestly, in a way I’m happy he’s gone. His direction for the series after 01 was a mixed bag, and while 02 gave us some amazing moments like Ken finding his true self, it also left a lot underdeveloped, particularly with the epilogue. And his proposed 03 was just insane, with Matt starting a Space Force to fight aliens using Digimon. Literally no mention of the other kids, just completely Matt-centric for some reason.
I simply wish we got more with Mamoru Hosoda as director. The short film and Our War Game are some of the best Digimon media, and it’s truly a shame that that plus Ep21 was all he did for the series.
I forgot that dude left and thought kizuna was gonna be worst than Tri. Kizuna was more competent but does sort of shit on the original message of the adventure show as opposed to tri which shits on its own philosophy as well as the previous established philosophy of the show
Kizuna doesn’t necessarily shit on the original message, more so it obscures it behind a wall. It might seem that initially it says to abandon your childhood in order to progress as a person, but really what it’s saying is to take life at your own pace and to take care of yourself, which personally fits in quite well with the mental health themes of 01 and even some of 02. Taichi and Matt secluded themselves from their family and Digimon while applying pressure to themselves to decide on their future, Sora secluded herself from her friends while practicing Ikebana to follow in her mother’s footsteps, Menoa rushed through her childhood to be an ‘adult’, and they all suffered for it. While characters like Mimi and Joe took it at their own pace and enjoyed themselves.
Honestly, in a way I’m happy he’s gone. His direction for the series after 01 was a mixed bag, and while 02 gave us some amazing moments like Ken finding his true self, it also left a lot underdeveloped, particularly with the epilogue.
I don't know if that was really all his fault as from the sounds of it, no one on the writing team was communicating with each other and weren't making compromises on what to do with the season. Unless he's a known control freak, but that sounds unlikely.
And his proposed 03 was just insane, with Matt starting a Space Force to fight aliens using Digimon. Literally no mention of the other kids, just completely Matt-centric for some reason.
I dunno if it was really Matt-centric if we don't have the complete details, but I mean, I like the idea of alien Digimon. Vademon exists, after all. Would've liked to have seen what they would've done with it.
but really what it’s saying is to take life at your own pace and to take care of yourself, which personally fits in quite well with the mental health themes of 01 and even some of 02. Taichi and Matt secluded themselves from their family and Digimon while applying pressure to themselves to decide on their future, Sora secluded herself from her friends while practicing Ikebana to follow in her mother’s footsteps, Menoa rushed through her childhood to be an ‘adult’, and they all suffered for it.
Outside of the physical manifestation of depression showing up in the Dark Masters arc (if it had gone after Izzy, I might've believed you more, but he got over his hang-ups with his parents before they went back) and Gatomon's scrambled memories, mental health wasn't exactly tackled in Digimon. The Crests represented the lost or neglected traits/virtues of the DigiDestined who needed to improve upon it or find it within themselves to believe in.
If anything for Kizuna, I kinda took it as a criticism toward society in how it expects certain things from people once they became adults. Tai and Matt's goals for their future careers meant they were going to be put under a lot of pressure to be able to live up to them and then exceed (Tai especially), and Sora was always pressured to take over the family business and do better, even after she reconciled with her mom. Menoa is sadly not too far off from how a lot of people actually "grow up", though most people I knew who did that didn't rush through childhood for a career but to "feel" like they were grown up by doing "grown up" things.
By growing up too fast, they lost touch of their past, and their Digimon, as much as they were 110% supportive and behind them all the way, couldn't "fit in". I think it's just too bad we only got one side of the picture for this because this could've been the more extreme way of approaching a Crest failing to activate or keep its powers, in that instead of causing a Digimon to turn into a Virus attribute or being unable to have them Digivolve, it makes them vanish. Like if this was such a big deal, wouldn't we have seen an example of this in the past? Closest we got was when Wormmon "died" thanks to Ken's decisions, forcing him to do some soul-searching before he could reunite with his Digimon.
I still think Kizuna was trying to imply that when you become a full-fledged adult, you lose that fantastical view of life that Digimon practically thrives on, but that the epilogue suggests that it's still possible to "reconnect" to that inner child and be able to reunite with the other half of your soul that the Digimon partner represents. But I dunno, honestly, I think Toei needs to just leave Adventure alone and stop trying to bridge the gap to the epilogue to explain shit that doesn't need an answer and/or to appease those older fans who're after all this time still pissed Tai and Sora never got together or whatever.
Besides, I'd only really accept more Adventure stuff if and only if they do more with Wizardmon. Dude's been stuck as a ghost long fucking enough, and the Xros Wars manga shows that it is entirely possible for him to return, though I still have no idea how it works that his data was "scattered" across the Digital World or whatnot.
I don't know if that was really all his fault as from the sounds of it, no one on the writing team was communicating with each other and weren't making compromises on what to do with the season. Unless he's a known control freak, but that sounds unlikely.
I dunno if it was really Matt-centric if we don't have the complete details, but I mean, I like the idea of alien Digimon. Vademon exists, after all. Would've liked to have seen what they would've done with it.
Outside of the physical manifestation of depression showing up in the Dark Masters arc (if it had gone after Izzy, I might've believed you more, but he got over his hang-ups with his parents before they went back) and Gatomon's scrambled memories, mental health wasn't exactly tackled in Digimon. The Crests represented the lost or neglected traits/virtues of the DigiDestined who needed to improve upon it or find it within themselves to believe in.
If anything for Kizuna, I kinda took it as a criticism toward society in how it expects certain things from people once they became adults. Tai and Matt's goals for their future careers meant they were going to be put under a lot of pressure to be able to live up to them and then exceed (Tai especially), and Sora was always pressured to take over the family business and do better, even after she reconciled with her mom. Menoa is sadly not too far off from how a lot of people actually "grow up", though most people I knew who did that didn't rush through childhood for a career but to "feel" like they were grown up by doing "grown up" things.
By growing up too fast, they lost touch of their past, and their Digimon, as much as they were 110% supportive and behind them all the way, couldn't "fit in". I think it's just too bad we only got one side of the picture for this because this could've been the more extreme way of approaching a Crest failing to activate or keep its powers, in that instead of causing a Digimon to turn into a Virus attribute or being unable to have them Digivolve, it makes them vanish. Like if this was such a big deal, wouldn't we have seen an example of this in the past? Closest we got was when Wormmon "died" thanks to Ken's decisions, forcing him to do some soul-searching before he could reunite with his Digimon.
I still think Kizuna was trying to imply that when you become a full-fledged adult, you lose that fantastical view of life that Digimon practically thrives on, but that the epilogue suggests that it's still possible to "reconnect" to that inner child and be able to reunite with the other half of your soul that the Digimon partner represents. But I dunno, honestly, I think Toei needs to just leave Adventure alone and stop trying to bridge the gap to the epilogue to explain shit that doesn't need an answer and/or to appease those older fans who're after all this time still pissed Tai and Sora never got together or whatever.
Besides, I'd only really accept more Adventure stuff if and only if they do more with Wizardmon. Dude's been stuck as a ghost long fucking enough, and the Xros Wars manga shows that it is entirely possible for him to return, though I still have no idea how it works that his data was "scattered" across the Digital World or whatnot.
if I recall, 02 had 2 head writers. One wanted the story to be character driven while the other more comedy. The inability for writers to agree is why they gave two of their writers their own series (Tamers and Frontier). The alien angle could be interesting and the one thing I liked about the series is that each series tries to distinguish itself from what came before. If there's a series you don't like you can ignore it and wait until there's one you like (I passed over Xwars, App, and the remake but I'm somewhat watching Ghost). And they really should either drop adventure or say they're ignoring the epilogue as any show with forgone conclusions are less tense even with good writing (my main gripe with Better Call Saul).
I don't know if that was really all his fault as from the sounds of it, no one on the writing team was communicating with each other and weren't making compromises on what to do with the season. Unless he's a known control freak, but that sounds unlikely.
It’s certainly not his fault alone for all of 02, but as director he has to make sure things aren’t a mess and that their ideas are properly communicated by the writers. If anything I’d say he was too lax as a director, while also having a “vision” that changes every few years. Hence why the 01 anime, PSP game, and his novel all give different versions despite being headed by him.
If anything for Kizuna, I kinda took it as a criticism toward society in how it expects certain things from people once they became adults. Tai and Matt's goals for their future careers meant they were going to be put under a lot of pressure to be able to live up to them and then exceed (Tai especially), and Sora was always pressured to take over the family business and do better, even after she reconciled with her mom. Menoa is sadly not too far off from how a lot of people actually "grow up", though most people I knew who did that didn't rush through childhood for a career but to "feel" like they were grown up by doing "grown up" things.
I’d disagree that it’s meant to be society’s expectations. As we hear from Kari, Taichi’s mother misses him and believes he should visit more, indicating self-isolation rather than the weight of society. We also see this with Sora, who essentially ghosts her friends due to her own internal issues. TK talks similarly in regards to Matt, but his focus is more in the “I have no future goals” aspect the three of them struggled with. Menoa is actually the best example of a societal push towards adulthood, as if memory serves me she was so far advanced compared to the other kids that she was a loner, and thus would naturally desire to be amongst the ones who she felt could understand her the best.
I absolutely agree that Kizuna is trying to say that you can lose touch with your childhood, but I’d add on that it’s showing that you *shouldn’t*, since the central conflict arises specifically because they lost their connection to their Digimon. And naturally telling their fans to “grow up and leave us behind” isn’t conducive to sales
honestly, I think Toei needs to just leave Adventure alone and stop trying to bridge the gap to the epilogue to explain shit that doesn't need an answer and/or to appease those older fans who're after all this time still pissed Tai and Sora never got together or whatever.
As an OWG nut, I definitely sympathize with them. While it’s true they planned since before 01 was being animated that Sora and Yamato would be the canon ship, Kakudou and his staff did jack-all to actually support that in-show. In fact, he’s talked on his Twitter about forgetting to insert growth on at least one occasion. Picking any ship at all was genuinely a fool’s move, as it did nothing for the series and only gave rabid fangirls ammunition.
It’s certainly not his fault alone for all of 02, but as director he has to make sure things aren’t a mess and that their ideas are properly communicated by the writers. If anything I’d say he was too lax as a director, while also having a “vision” that changes every few years. Hence why the 01 anime, PSP game, and his novel all give different versions despite being headed by him.
Yeah, I get that. Think he was just real lucky Bandai/Toei allowed him to do what he could do for the anime, but he could've also been making things up as he went along. I just doubt he had years ahead of time to plan things out, hence why he wrote those novels (similar to how Takeshi Shudo wrote those novels for Pokémon since Kunihiko/OLM wouldn't let him go bug-nuts), which I think the PSP game took some cues from.
I’d disagree that it’s meant to be society’s expectations. As we hear from Kari, Taichi’s mother misses him and believes he should visit more, indicating self-isolation rather than the weight of society. We also see this with Sora, who essentially ghosts her friends due to her own internal issues.
I still believe that's part of society's expectations in growing up, in that in the "real world", "real" grown ups can't be with friends or family as much if it interferes with studies or your work, or can't ask for too much help because it's a sign of "weakness" in that you can't independently support yourself (and crank this mindset up to eleven in Japanese society). Tai and Matt in the restaurant have that disgruntled discussion about wondering if that's what being an adult actually means and if that is really the right thing to do. I wish we got to see Sora more for her point-of-view, but apparently that was done in those prologue shorts so if you didn't go watch them before the movie, you were going to be more confused/disappointed (lol).
Did they ever briefly mention the bad economy in the movie btw? 'Cause I think the movie takes place in 2010, and I don't believe Japan was really doing all that hot economically (like everyone else). When the recession hit, young people in Japan couldn't find work simply because the old people decided not to retire, and even though Tai and Matt were still in school, that could've played a part in their anxiety about the future because there was a chance they wouldn't be able to find work once they graduated. (Also I thought Tai was supposed to study overseas so he could become an ambassador? Or was this Tri just being a fuckup?)
Now it's T.K. and Kari and the gang's turn to watch their Digimon vanish before their eyes as they grow up. Davis is going to be the only one who'll be able to keep Veemon the entire time before the Digital World is reopened because he's a totes kid at heart and is special (in the head) like that.
That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it. Fucking hell, Toei, fuck off with the Adventure pandering while telling us fans to leave you guys alone and just go do more original Digimon stuff. Ghost Game is apparently doing well, so just stick with things like that and leave Tai and the gang alone.
To be fair Davis isn’t even the mentally challenged one of his group ironically. Yolei is easily the stand out tard among them which is especially fitting when you consider the explanation for why their clothes changed in the Digital World during Adventure 2.
To be fair Davis isn’t even the mentally challenged one of his group ironically. Yolei is easily the stand out tard among them which is especially fitting when you consider the explanation for why their clothes changed in the Digital World during Adventure 2.
She's a wannabe/poser, you can't expect much from her. Ken wore his school uniform, unless you meant the Digimon Kaiser stuff, he had to look like the villain then.
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This thing took so long to come out that I just can't bring myself to be excited about it anymore. I'll just wait for the reviews/general consensus to come out before I decide if I want to give it a shot.
I actually finished it once on the hardest difficulty for what it's worth (still need to do the other 3 routes). Minor spoilers:
Gameplaywise, it's really bare-bones; enemies won't chase you unless you get near their area, and since you can recover SP at the end of each turn (unless your story digimons are evolved, in which case you can temporarily devolve them), you can easily cheese the game.
The story however is actually pretty good. Nothing out of this world, but I actually enjoyed it. My only complaint about it is that, even though you can influence how you "start battles" (earliest example would be the Dokugumon fight), you can't really influence how the story plays out; characters's deaths are fixed (at least the first time you play it).
Honestly it'd have been better if they made it a full visual novel. I know a lot of people would've hated it, but the SRPG aspect is so basic, it's almost unnecessary (and sometimes it even killed the momentum that was built up in the story). Also, most of the negatives scores I've seen (because it got review bombed) comes from the fact that people really hate to read(a few of them even got mad that the game didn't get an english dub, which is stupid).
Also, most of the negatives scores I've seen (because it got review bombed) comes from the fact that people really hate to read(a few of them even got mad that the game didn't get an english dub, which is stupid).
There’s a reason point-and-click adventure games are out of style and that VNs are essentially region-locked, and it’s because the modern gamer is so completely numb that they need instant gratification and typically porn in order to focus.
Is the game even properly voice acted? Or is it one of those “say the first few words” style of voice acting?
And it’s a shame to hear the combat is barebones, I wasn’t expecting much but it really does just sound like a repeat of the Adventure PSP game.
Most of the game is voice acted. There are specific moments where it isn't (like when the game gives you the freedom to explore/talk to people to increase your affinity with them), but I'd say that at least 85% of it is voiced.
But yeah, don't expect much from the combat itself. The digimons themselves only get 2 attacks (main attack + an ability) unless you give them items, it doesn't really get "deeper" than that.
