Containment Dimensional Merge tweets megathread - 1/2 - Chris is salty Merge hasn't happened: "Damn Dimension 1218’s “Reality” Limits and Shit!!!"

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Your expectations are too low if you place believing you are a goddess and that Pokemon are real on the same level as playing too much World of Warcraft. If you have to speculate (that Chris does not actually believe in his delusions, which is possible, but contradicted by his behavior) for your premise to kinda maybe sorta work, then the comparison you’re trying to draw here is probably not strong. Almost everyone on Earth manages to engage in fantasy escapism while also acknowledging that fictional characters don’t really exist, and that there is a real world that has nothing to do with their fantasies that they are supposed to be participating in, even if they aren’t and are instead $30,000 in debt from a crippling Clash of Clans addiction.
Confidence in a belief is not a binary value. It's a range.

If we could put a number value to how strongly someone believes something, like 0 not at all, 10 absolutely believes it's a physical phenomenon, I think a lot of people have supernatural beliefs that they maintain somewhere between that range.

Plenty of people genuinely believe in ghosts and Jesus and astrology and other bullshit like that. Now I wouldn't put your average Christian at a 10 belief-wise. It's not like they would comfortably walk off a ten story building, believing Jesus is going to catch them. But I don't believe most strongly religious people operate at a 0 either. It's somewhere in the middle.

I would argue that Chris' beliefs are similar. Perhaps he probably believes in them a little more strongly than most Christians, though I also think Chris' confiction in his beliefs yoyo over time, depending on how shitty his life is. When Chris' life is doing good, I don't think he believes in it as strongly. He'll still wear his medallion, but otherwise he's got things to occupy him. But when his life is going down the shitter, he notices and turns to Magichan for help. Dipshits telling him they're Magichan only ups his confidence in his beliefs.

He's like how people in prison convert to islam.

I think this whole model is common. The uncommon parts come from how Chris is a retard and ascocial, so he populates his pantheon with pop culture instead of traditional religious symbols and has no clue how insane that sounds to normal people.

Substitute all this shit for wicca, and I think it'd be a lot harder to distinguish it from your average tumblr witch.
 
Your expectations are too low if you place believing you are a goddess and that Pokemon are real on the same level as playing too much World of Warcraft. If you have to speculate (that Chris does not actually believe in his delusions, which is possible, but contradicted by his behavior) for your premise to kinda maybe sorta work, then the comparison you’re trying to draw here is probably not strong. Almost everyone on Earth manages to engage in fantasy escapism while also acknowledging that fictional characters don’t really exist, and that there is a real world that has nothing to do with their fantasies that they are supposed to be participating in, even if they aren’t and are instead $30,000 in debt from a crippling Clash of Clans addiction.
I don't think my expectations are particularly charitable. I'm really not convinced that Chris truly believes that he's a hedgehog goddess with super powers, and I think his behavior reflects my belief. He's trying really hard to believe in his creations, and he's latched on to anyone that will corroborate his beliefs. Even in his dimensional merge twitter rants, he's openly asked for collaborators. He wants other people to tell him that his psychic hedgehog pokemon is his husband, because I think he's more willing to believe other people than his own imagination. It feels really good when someone tells you you're right, and it doesn't really matter if you actually are.

I do know addicts, who doesn't? But I said people with decent lives, as in good lives. Someone addicted to a substance definitely doesn't have a good life. People with good lives have no reason to fall into the escapism of magical ponies or drugs or whatever because they have no reason to. People with good/average lives obviously engage in escapism like playing a game to let off steam or cuddling up with a book, but if you get to the point that you abandon real life to live in imaginationland, you're not normal.
Your belief is not congruent with reality. A very large majority of people, right now, don't have good lives. And even people with outstanding lives engage in escapism because reality isn't perfect, or even good most of the time. There's no single category of situations that people want to escape from. It can be anything from boredom to severe emotional trauma. People at the highest echelons of society engage in destructive or irrational behavior, not necessarily because they have bad lives, but because they want some respite from the monotoneity or stresses of their daily lives. It's really easy to let your escape destroy your life, and I don't think Chris' has destroyed his yet. I would love to meet the person that never wanted to escape reality.
 
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He tried to kill Liquid Chris with a super saiyan attack, expecting it to kill them over a video.

Which isn't quite the same as Chris believing that the dimensions will merge. It's just his equivalent of watching Superman, tying a blanket around his neck, and careering about the house yelling about how he can fly. Which is charming if a little annoying from a five-year-old kid, rather less so from a grown man.
 
Which isn't quite the same as Chris believing that the dimensions will merge. It's just his equivalent of watching Superman, tying a blanket around his neck, and careering about the house yelling about how he can fly. Which is charming if a little annoying from a five-year-old kid, rather less so from a grown man.

And if that kid went and jumped off the garage and broke both his legs doing that, you'd think he was retarded. As an adult, you'd think he was crazy. Chris isn't quite going up on the garage and flying retarded, but he is apparently punching Barb and shitting on the floor retarded.
 
And if that kid went and jumped off the garage and broke both his legs doing that, you'd think he was exceptional. As an adult, you'd think he was crazy. Chris isn't quite going up on the garage and flying exceptional, but he is apparently punching Barb and shitting on the floor exceptional.
Weekend at Barb's imminent.
 
extremely, extremely tl;dr and very probably autistic, put in quotes to save screen space:
ok, I admittedly did not read through this entire thread, so rate me :late: or :autism: if you must, and I know this has been touched on, but Chris's references to "during the [implied upcoming] Dimensional merge" have a specific and ominous eschatological sort of feeling-tone to anyone else? It's kind of worrisome TBH, and escalating. like, really, ought we be worried about him donning a track suit and some nondescript Nike sneakers and trying to hitch a ride? because I legit feel like it's something that could happen if he's really put into a corner ("when Barb" or even if sufficiently trolled)

I mean, I think some of this is RP'ing, but if he gets to some serious LARPing, like, trying to transdimentionautistically metastasize himself into Neptuna-Sonichia, then I think we'd have hit a milestone -- although this was someone who over a decade ago spoke to Sonichu during a psychiatric evaluation and Literally Really and For True believes in the power to curse others; to be fair, this is not that far out of the realm of normality, cf. some of the more far-out brands of Charismatic/Pentecostal theology, which, given Chris's general background socioeconomic milieu, he's likely been in contact with. the whole thing actually fucking reeks of a subtext of pente/charismatic/dispo millenarian bullshit when you think about it. hard to tell if he's pre- or post-mil, though tbh.

the latter is not the sort of thing that I'd necessarily think about, but he's explicitly given us indications that he is developing a syncretic autistic theology incorporating ponies, whatever the hell Neptunia is (I still don't understand and don't really want to), his own creations bastardized from Sonic, residual elements of generic denominational Protestantism that informed his upbringing, random other shit (some really, really obscure like the non-canon 'Ghostbusters' cartoon or wherever the hell Jamsta came from, now the MARVEL universes, showing he can pull stuff out of the air and easily add it to his synthesis), plus this whole element of transsexuality/tumblrista LGBTQ identity politics which, and people ignore this, makes a fundamentally ontological proposition that is counter to objective reality, which, being reinforced by that community, could mutually reinforce the disjunction with any outside correlatives that we're already seeing.

so I think we kind of have to see what he's created for himself now as a kind of cult, with him both as leader and as deceived disciple ("Bo and Peep," to continue with my somewhat distressing analogy before, certainly seem to have mutually reinforced one another, pathologically; neither of them was a Jim Jones, and Heaven's Gate was nothing like the People's Temple despite superficially similar modes of exit), a cult with a membership of one, fundamentally gnostic in nature, like many gnostic/docetic cults based on a neo-Platonic worldview it despises reality as such, and posits another reality that is spiritually superior to our own, attainable to those with what Paul calls "ψευδωνύμουγνώσεως" (I Timothy 6:20, i.e. "gnosis, knowledge, acquaintance[≊ a lit. translation of the Gk. term, signifying 'a superior and intimate acquaintance with the particular theological system being described], spiritual 'science' [as IIRC some newer translations have it], etc. ψευδωνύμου = "falsely so called," his point, it's a bunch of bullshit that distracts from genuine spirituality by autistic speculation about hierarchies of angels and divine "emanations" that have no basis in reason, revealed Truth, or Tradition -- this applies to Chris's gnosticism totally: the Sonichus and the ponies and the CPU goddesses, in rough increasing order, are the ascending spiritual entities in his autistic-gnostic mind) ...

gnosticism, anyhow, it's a really ancient cult/heresy both in & out of the Christian church, it was thought up by the G[r]eek neo-Platonists in embryonic form and had fuckhueg influence in the Early Church, a lot of the apostolic and subapostolic literature is concerned with fighting against it, it still manifests itself in various cults today, cf. Scientology, Mormonism, Heaven's Gate as mentioned, I could go on... it forms the basis for a lot of New Age shit, Qaballah, and so on ...

so I think whatever's going on with Chris we do have to understand in theological terms if we are going to come to any understanding of what's going on inside his head. And what's worrying me is his personal eschatology. I don't think I'm paranoid or that it's outrageous to say that it sounds like he's ramping it up in a serious way. given that what he's posting here is essentially theological and eschatological I think we need to take that kind of hermeneutic in analyzing it and not just see it as autistic babbeling...since the curse-me-ya-me-ha's and so on nearly a decade ago, I really believe the man's self-developed cult of one is longstanding, more than we know, and internally self-consistent. As someone who's been following Chris for a long time, and someone who happens to have studied both of these topics in a serious way (not to pull that I have a fucking internet phd card but yes I do know what i'm talking about when I talk about either psychiatry or religion) but I think the language of psychopathology is insufficient to discuss or explain what is going on and we need to think of it in these kinds of terms, especially now.

I am not sure if it is alarmist to say that it is outright worrying, but it is certainly troubling. I will probably catch some flack for this but I think it is something worth examining in some detail later; perhaps a thread is warranted; perhaps I am a gargantuan faggot for posting this in the first place, time will tell.

I worry for Chris though. We cannot deny things are escalating.

part 2

> Is Chris getting better tho?

also where the hell did he pull that gif from that Sandra Bullock movie where she is an FBI agent who goes undercover at a beauty pageant from? I actually kinda liked that movie.

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If all she has is a pre-DOS system to be goddess over, I can't imagine there being enough power in her corner to even load my fat ass in text format. I'm so sorry Christine, but I ride the ripple that was your power and got next to nothing for two nights straight, should say, "GAY!" If she wants that money, she needs to go to https://www.rencenter.org/ for several system upgrades, at least to a Pentium 486. She might understand the classes better than I do, but nothing like this existed in her area.

I went to a Orientation Class with most of it going over my head. Christine being mentally older than me, she might gain something useful. https://www.rencenter.org/event/renaissance-orientation-soma-nov-6/ This is what she needs to get an idea of what business is in America, maybe it will end her dreams like it did mine, maybe it will inspire her to do something.
 
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and should I start a thread about autistic gnostic theology? I know I'll get a lot of :autism: ratings and "OP is a faggot" responses but I do feel as though I could contribute some useful background, like, tryting to place Chris's current autistic obsessions in a ~2,300yo perspective; it would also serve as containment for my own sperging. given that I kind of do this for a living (except for the part for where I actually make a living from it) it's enjoyable to take parodic-but-serious-but-tongue-firmly-in-cheek exegetical whacks at OPL from a different sort of perspective
 
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and should I start a thread about autistic gnostic theology? I know I'll get a lot of :autism: ratings and "OP is a faggot" responses but I do feel as though I could contribute some useful background, like, tryting to place Chris's current autistic obsessions in a ~2,300yo perspective; it would also serve as containment for my own sperging. given that I kind of do this for a living (except for the part for where I actually make a living from it) it's enjoyable to take parodic-but-serious-but-tongue-firmly-in-cheek exegetical whacks at OPL from a different sort of perspective
Why not? Just watch the thread possibly get locked. Though, a pinned thread containing a summary of Chris' "beliefs" would be a good idea for the sake of people who have no idea what's goimg on.
I don't think my expectations are particularly charitable. I'm really not convinced that Chris truly believes that he's a hedgehog goddess with super powers, and I think his behavior reflects my belief. He's trying really hard to believe in his creations, and he's latched on to anyone that will corroborate his beliefs. Even in his dimensional merge twitter rants, he's openly asked for collaborators. He wants other people to tell him that his psychic hedgehog pokemon is his husband, because I think he's more willing to believe other people than his own imagination. It feels really good when someone tells you you're right, and it doesn't really matter if you actually are.


Your belief is not congruent with reality. A very large majority of people, right now, don't have good lives. And even people with outstanding lives engage in escapism because reality isn't perfect, or even good most of the time. There's no single category of situations that people want to escape from. It can be anything from boredom to severe emotional trauma. People at the highest echelons of society engage in destructive or irrational behavior, not necessarily because they have bad lives, but because they want some respite from the monotoneity or stresses of their daily lives. It's really easy to let your escape destroy your life, and I don't think Chris' has destroyed his yet. I would love to meet the person that never wanted to escape reality.
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. Obviously not every person with a shitty life falls into the trap of excessive escapism, but if you fall into that trap, your life is shitty to some degree. It doesn't matter if you have a successful career and a loving family, if you're a coke addict there's something wrong. Whether it's stress from your job, or the result of you trying weed at 16, or whatever, there is something wrong, and you can't have a happy life if you're trapped into the excessive escapism of drug addiction or in Chris' case, consumerism and imagination.

I'm not saying that engaging in escapism is bad, but if you let your hobbies take over and ruin your life, which is what I'm saying is bad, then there is something wrong.
 
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and should I start a thread about autistic gnostic theology? I know I'll get a lot of :autism: ratings and "OP is a faggot" responses but I do feel as though I could contribute some useful background, like, tryting to place Chris's current autistic obsessions in a ~2,300yo perspective; it would also serve as containment for my own sperging. given that I kind of do this for a living (except for the part for where I actually make a living from it) it's enjoyable to take parodic-but-serious-but-tongue-firmly-in-cheek exegetical whacks at OPL from a different sort of perspective

That's a Deep Thunks thread.
 
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. Obviously not every person with a shitty life falls into the trap of excessive escapism, but if you fall into that trap, your life is shitty to some degree. It doesn't matter if you have a successful career and a loving family, if you're a coke addict there's something wrong. Whether it's stress from your job, or the result of you trying weed at 16, or whatever, there is something wrong, and you can't have a happy life if you're trapped into the excessive escapism of drug addiction or in Chris' case, consumerism and imagination.

I'm not saying that engaging in escapism is bad, but if you let your hobbies take over and ruin your life, which is what I'm saying is bad, then there is something wrong.
Everyone has something wrong with their life. I'm trying to convey the point that this particular instance of Chris' behavior is not outside range of normal human behavior. Everyone is susceptible to varying degrees of escapism, and Chris' is not on par with things like substance abuse. His escapism has not yet reached the point where he's destroyed whatever semblance of a life he has now.

Of all of Chris' traits, the major ones that are below average and outside of the normal range are his intelligence, his knowledge of the natural world, his sociability. and his ability to grasp concepts outside of his immediate perspective. He's also very autistic.
 
Everyone has something wrong with their life. I'm trying to convey the point that this particular instance of Chris' behavior is not outside range of normal human behavior. Everyone is susceptible to varying degrees of escapism, and Chris' is not on par with things like substance abuse. His escapism has not yet reached the point where he's destroyed whatever semblance of a life he has now.

Of all of Chris' traits, the major ones that are below average and outside of the normal range are his intelligence, his knowledge of the natural world, his sociability. and his ability to grasp concepts outside of his immediate perspective. He's also very autistic.
Not to derail the thread too much, but I'll say this: I think his general stupidity contributes to his excessive escapism, but he's still a way bigger indulger in escapism than normal, non tarded people. But lets agree to disagree?
 
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In all the dimensional merge bullcrap, has no one ever bothered to just introduce the concept of the Anti Monitor from DC comics to him?
You could tell Chris about any number of unbeatable enemies in fiction. Azathoth, 682, Anti-Monitor, Lucifer, the Tarrasque, so on. No matter what, he will bullshit up a reason why he and his vidya powers can not only defeat, but destroy it.
 
I may have accidentally skipped over the part of Chris's manifesto for the answer to this question but who does he consider to be the ruler of his merged universe?
 
In fairness, any decent opinion poll carried out with a nice sample size would likely return at least 40% of normie respondents reporting utter disgust with Chris.

I'm still fascinated by this concept of everyone's OCs coming to life. I wonder what would happen if another idea troll pointed him in the direction of the SCP Foundation wiki. I'd think he'd immediately take that shit at face value as real due to its clinical and "scientific" tone. I'd love to see Chris's response to the thought of eldritch abominations rampaging around and munching on Sonichus and Ponies. Or maybe he'd just say "Mhmhmmmmm, no, pony CPU goddess powers always win."
I think Chris might literally shit him self if he found the SCP materials. There is some beyond fucked up shit in there that can give sane people the heebie jeebies/creeps what ever you want to call it. The moment the lights flicker after he reads about that, he'd be shitting him self.

**Wait this started today? I told my self I'm the God Emperor and I could purge the warp daemons and nothing happened.

Fuck this religion, it sucks.**

No really, did Chris claim it happened today?
 
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