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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
I'm not sure Emma Watson didn't entirely buy into the feminist take considering some of the mindbogglingly idiotic changes that were made to the remake like Gaston being made into a basically decent if old-fashioned bloke until he suddenly goes turbo-evil midway through the movie for seemingly no reason because the people writing the script remembered that he's supposed to be the villain
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Sounds like live-action Gaston was an early sufferer of the John Walker effect:
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Kari Kamiya said:
What is it with bitchy women always filming themselves being condescending in a white bathrobe?
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It’s like a female version of RLM’s “Black tank-top theory”:
 
ロボ﹏for﹏hire said:
I guess Arizona is cheap, but would anyone even travel there? There is a reason why California and Florida were chosen as Disneyland locations.
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I'm not a golf guy, but I'm pretty sure it's like a golf mecca. And Scottsdale is where rich people go to die. Plus, I mean if Branson Missouri became a tourist destination, anywhere can.

Never Scored said:
Was Florida a travel destination for families before Disney World opened there?
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Miami, Key West (or the keys in general), and to a lesser extent, Tampa, were all huge in the early 20th century, kind of bridging the gap between the "health spas" of the 1800s and the vacation culture of the 1950s onwards. But Central Florida was (and is, outside of Kissimmee) a fucking wasteland, which is why Walt was able to get the land and drain it for $20 and a sack of shiny pebbles.
 
Omen_Sulk said:
Disney getting some competition?

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meh, I'm gonna say this is a bit optimistic to say it'll rival Disney when it opens since Universal has been trying to compete for 20 years now and only arguable just starting to gain ground recently (same can apply with to American heartland if it opens up).

You can argue Mattel will have some of the most popular toy brands to draw people in but:
A) Modern Disney parks is a good example that just slapping on IP to a ride only goes so far
B) Parks like Six Flags and Legoland are two other parks tied to massive brands, but no one is ever going to plan a weeklong vacation to a six flags park and Legoland is legit a park you only go to if you have young kids despite Lego adults almost rivaling Disney adults.
 
vern said:
meh, I'm gonna say this is a bit optimistic to say it'll rival Disney when it opens since Universal has been trying to compete for 20 years now and only arguable just starting to gain ground recently (same can apply with to American heartland if it opens up).

You can argue Mattel will have some of the most popular toy brands to draw people in but:
A) Modern Disney parks is a good example that just slapping on IP to a ride only goes so far
B) Parks like Six Flags and Legoland are two other parks tied to massive brands, but no one is ever going to plan a weeklong vacation to a six flags park and Legoland is legit a park you only go to if you have young kids despite Lego adults almost rivaling Disney adults.
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There is also the fact that none of Mattel's properties could really rival Disney. The entire park is being sold on:
  1. He-Man, an arguably dead 80s IP that had a disasterous last outing and even a pretty shit outing before that.
  2. Barbie, an IP that was in rapid decay for two decades and only has popularity because of a mixed movie with stellar marketing.
  3. Thomas, the IP that I doubt many want to be seen in public enjoying.
  4. Hot Wheels, which is fine, honestly cannot recall the last big Hot Wheels thing?
  5. Board games like UNO, which, really?
The IPs are worth a day trip out of curiosity, but the Minions/Shrek park Universal is building will likely have more of a draw tbh.

When it comes to competing with Disney, arguably Warner would have been the strongest in having IPs that could rival. Harry Potter, DC Comics, Hanna Barbera, Lord of The Rings, Gremlins, Cartoon Network, Game of Thrones, etc..
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
There is also the fact that none of Mattel's properties could really rival Disney. The entire park is being sold on:
  1. He-Man, an arguably dead 80s IP that had a disasterous last outing and even a pretty shit outing before that.
  2. Barbie, an IP that was in rapid decay for two decades and only has popularity because of a mixed movie with stellar marketing.
  3. Thomas, the IP that I doubt many want to be seen in public enjoying.
  4. Hot Wheels, which is fine, honestly cannot recall the last big Hot Wheels thing?
  5. Board games like UNO, which, really?
The IPs are worth a day trip out of curiosity, but the Minions/Shrek park Universal is building will likely have more of a draw tbh.

When it comes to competing with Disney, arguably Warner would have been the strongest in having IPs that could rival. Harry Potter, DC Comics, Hanna Barbera, Lord of The Rings, Gremlins, Cartoon Network, Game of Thrones, etc..
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I actually think a Mattel theme park could work as an indoor park themed around being toy sized in a kids room (so toy story land but not shit), but based on the renders I don't think there gonna go with that, but at the end of the day it'll depend on if the rides and attractions are any good.
Like I said Six flags has all the Warner IPs save Harry Potter and their at best a day park. Hell I'd argue Cedar Fair is the better day chain and iirc the only IP they have in the parks is The Peanuts which hasn't been big in a long time and is only used for their kid area (although I do have a few fond memories of the camp snoopy that used to be Minnesota).
 
Lil Yappy said:
If I was some Hollywood Big Wig I'd make all of my actors and other workers sign contracts limiting what they say in interviews and on social media. Most of them aren't smart enough to be talking about anything deep or controversial and end up just pissing the fans off and damaging the thing they are trying to promote.
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Talking shit like that was what sunk Megan Fox.

Just saying. Maybe times are different now.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Hot Wheels, which is fine, honestly cannot recall the last big Hot Wheels thing?
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If you had a park with Hot Wheels and Thomas the Tank Engine, a five year old boy would rather go there than Disney World. I guarantee it. Both those are still extremely popular with young boys. I didn't know things like Hotwheels Monster trucks were a thing until I had kids, but it very much is.
 
vern said:
I actually think a Mattel theme park could work as an indoor park themed around being toy sized in a kids room (so toy story land but not shit), but based on the renders I don't think there gonna go with that, but at the end of the day it'll depend on if the rides and attractions are any good.
Like I said Six flags has all the Warner IPs save Harry Potter and their at best a day park. Hell I'd argue Cedar Fair is the better day chain and iirc the only IP they have in the parks is The Peanuts which hasn't been big in a long time and is only used for their kid area (although I do have a few fond memories of the camp snoopy that used to be Minnesota).
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I am talking more generally as a Disney competitor. When it comes to trying to beat Disney in terms of parks the only companies that I feel realistically have a chance, without borrowing IP like Universal does would probably be either Warner (Just for the sheer amount of big names) or weirdly Nintendo (Big IPs and mass brand recognition and flow). Both are now just small parts of other parks though.

vern said:
Like I said Six flags has all the Warner IPs save Harry Potter and their at best a day park.
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Six Flags barely uses Warner IP, to the point where they have recently undergone massive deletion of it. Camp Cartoon is now a generic attraction. The only IPs Six Flags uses are Looney Tunes, which are only used as character meet and greets, and DC Comics, which is mostly relegated to redesigns where they slap Harley Quinn stickers on some random ride already in existence. The only original attractions that use IP anymore are The Dark Knight and Justice League.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
Legoland is built out from Cypress Gardens which predates Disney World by a while, I think Marineland might have been before WDW too
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Florida was a destination, but Orlando was a shithole. People would go to Cypress Gardens and some of the other old parks (largely now gone), but there was a lot of traffic to Miami and the Keys. Disney World put Orlando on the map. I think their airport was like, a dirt runway and then a shared operation with the air force base for a number of years.
 
Dixieland Buckaroo said:
Florida was a destination, but Orlando was a shithole. People would go to Cypress Gardens and some of the other old parks (largely now gone), but there was a lot of traffic to Miami and the Keys. Disney World put Orlando on the map. I think their airport was like, a dirt runway and then a shared operation with the air force base for a number of years.
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iirc there was a shopping center parking lot that grew out of the old airforce base and you could still see some remains of the runways if you knew what to look for through the mid 00s or so
 
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