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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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  • Hunchback 2

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Snow White is actually doing way fucking worse than I ever expected. Now it's being beat by some Jason Statham movie I've never even heard of. :story:

I thought women/girls would make it blow up like Barbie/Wicked/etc. But I guess Disney has even chased them away. Well done.
 
He holds no interest for me, but Jason Statham is a major box office draw for men 20-40 and his movies are relatively cheap. The Beekeeper grossed like $120 million worldwide. If it had Snow White's budget, it would have been a Hiroshima level bomb...but it cost $50 million, so guess who gets to keep making movies?
Jason Statham is awesome!
I aint got nothing against him, he works like an antebellum nigger making these flicks and does not partake in offscreen autism to my knowledge so even if it aint my cup of tea I am still entirely happy with him churning out cawntent for those who like that kind of thing.

To me its like a random hot dog cart outselling a brand new Mcdonalds mega-restaurant on its opening night. There is just something inherently amusing about the combined global corporate might of Ronald Mcdonald falling short of local small businessman Big Frank McWeenie and his trusty RawDog cart, even if it is only figurative in this regard.
 
I want some enterprising journocuck to investigate what is inflating the budgets of these movies so much. There is zero reason that any of this garbage should cost as much as Titanic. The Faerie Tale Theatre episode of Snow White probably cost about fifty thousand dollars to make and is a thousand times better than this shit.
I think it comes down to a few things

1. CGI is really expensive (yet somehow 2D is even though it's consistently cheaper)

2. Actors being paid lots of money (look at films like The Electric State and Avengers Doomsday where some actors are being paid more than the budget of a few movies)

3. In Snow White's case, it had constant reshoots, rewrites, and a lot of cut stuff that it is starting to add up. Honestly the behind the scenes story is more interesting
 
And yet 2D is too "costly" to return to.
1. CGI is really expensive (yet somehow 2D is even though it's consistently cheaper)
Most CGI being referred to is for live action works like Marvel, which 2D wouldn’t even matter for.

In saying this, the reason 2D is no longer done is a mix of animators no longer being taught it, 3D historically leading in revenue and a time issue. It has a higher initial cost, but one can theoretically crank out 2 Pixar films in the time it takes for a 2D animated product, so more sources to generate revenue in the same time frame.
 
Rachel Zegler has become the subject of near-universal praise in certain circles, but not necessarily for her talent, her performances, or even her career trajectory. Instead, much of the adulation stems from her outspoken support for Palestine, as if that alone justifies elevating her to a cinematic icon.

The narrative surrounding Snow White suggests that all criticism of the film is rooted in reactionary politics, a convenient deflection from the more pressing reality: audiences have had issues with nearly every aspect of this production. From the casting of Zegler to the bizarre approach to the dwarves, from the questionable CGI to Gal Gadot’s bad acting , skepticism about the film has been widespread. Yet, some insist that any negativity directed toward Snow White must be solely due to conservative backlash against its lead actress.

But if these defenders truly believed in Zegler, if they genuinely wanted to prove that she is more than the sum of her social media statements, why aren’t they turning Snow White into a box office success? Where are the so-called Blue Sky loyalists who claim to support underdog artists and marginalized voices? If the argument is that her detractors are the problem, then where are the legions of supporters who should be ensuring this film’s financial triumph?

For all the condemnation of "mean old fascist conservatives" supposedly dooming her projects, the cold reality is that Zegler has yet to prove herself as a box office draw. Her previous films have underperformed, and Snow White seems poised to follow suit. Meanwhile, Mufasa: The Lion King, another unnecessary prequel, has already outperformed expectations, even surpassing Sonic the Hedgehog 3. And why? Because its music resonated with audiences, drawing in the exact same demographic that *Snow White* supposedly appeals to.

So what’s the excuse? If Zegler is the future of Hollywood, why isn’t the present reflecting that? Cinema, after all, is an art form—but it is also a business. And in that business, the audience speaks the loudest.
 
Disney's Snow White grossed an estimated $22.1M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $76.3M, estimated global total stands at $143.1M.
A bit of the comments on that thread:
Worldwide, it has barely crossed half its budget damn.
And that's just its budget. It needs to gross $600-700mil worldwide for the mere possibility to turn a profit.
Yep marketing cost plus theater cut this this is gonna hurt Disney. Good
 
2. Actors being paid lots of money (look at films like The Electric State and Avengers Doomsday where some actors are being paid more than the budget of a few movies)
This isn't true for the majority of performers. RDJ and a handful of other big names get paid a lot and certainly inflate the budget (Dwayne Johnson being a famous recent example) but I doubt say Simu Liu or Halle Bailey raked it in. RDJ was originally cast in Iron Man because his personal issues at the time meant he came cheap. Snow White is Rachel Zegler's third movie, no way she's making bank.
 
RDJ was originally cast in Iron Man because his personal issues at the time meant he came cheap.
it's easy to lose sight of how the early automatic joke was RDJ->Demon In A Bottle
iirc dude who wrote Demon In A Bottle over the years was mildly regretful about it because of how it became like, THE lazy out for writing Tony
 
Do you think he would make a video on autistic villains? I once asked ChatGPT what villains had autism and it told be a question like that could be pragmatic; though it still gave me a list.
Oh come on now, you can't just say something like that and then not name any of the names it gave you.
 
The sinfest guy has opinions on the new Snow White movie

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I think it comes down to a few things

1. CGI is really expensive (yet somehow 2D is even though it's consistently cheaper)

2. Actors being paid lots of money (look at films like The Electric State and Avengers Doomsday where some actors are being paid more than the budget of a few movies)

3. In Snow White's case, it had constant reshoots, rewrites, and a lot of cut stuff that it is starting to add up. Honestly the behind the scenes story is more interesting
I was thinking about this today and realized it's a scam to get money. In the UK you can get pretty good tax credits for filming most or all of your movie or tv show there. A movie with a $300 million budget can easily get $75 million in tax credits. So you do some funny accounting tricks and your $150 million budget balloons up to $300 million so you can get more money back. Look at The Fagolyte. That show had a budget of $250 million and was filmed mostly in the UK for the tax credits. I dare anyone to convince me that the real budget was that high after watching it.

This is great for paying your cronies and when there's free cash from Blackrock flowing in to hire niggers and faggots but when DEI money is shut off you have to rely on paying customers but you told them all to fuck off. Now Disney is known for making shit movies so when people do go to a movie theater they're more likely to avoid Disney slop because of its bad reputation. Disney is also losing a generation of kids which will seriously hurt them down the line. If they don't turn things around in a few years I can see Disney being sold for parts in ten to fifteen years.
 
I’m probably the kind of guy that gives Mr Enter more credit than he deserves for that take. Sure, it was worded in the most retarded way possible. But he has a point- this movie does not feel like anything made in 2001. It feels like something from the late 10’s or early 20’s. There are no references to major historical events from then, there are no fashions from the time, and there’s nothing in the movie’s OST that feels like it would come from the early aughties.
thats actually a great point others made but i think it would be impossible to accomplish because so much of the 2000s and the 90s looks the way it does because it was shot on film. like y2k got terrible reviews despite its cast being very well liked and the writer/director being huge because of this same thing. they got the fashion right but the cast and their attitudes are clearly modern. You can't really have girls and boys acting like they did in 2001 and going "whats up faggot" without it causing controversy and beyond that as we saw with Stranger Things, the youth assume the only reason one would call someone gay is if that person is in fact a fruit.
Tarzan, the one character they 100% will NEVER nigger up. Jane is a redhead, so they'll just nigger her the next time they make a movie.
the story has been public domain for years now, even the film that image is from was DOA and only got released by some other company that got the distribution rights for dirt cheap
though it still gave me a list.
and? we're waiting
thought women/girls would make it blow up like Barbie/Wicked/etc. But I guess Disney has even chased them away. Well done.
we've had numerous snow white adaptions and its not really a beloved ip vs wicked/barbie/etc.
 
Snow White is actually doing way fucking worse than I ever expected. Now it's being beat by some Jason Statham movie I've never even heard of. :story:

I thought women/girls would make it blow up like Barbie/Wicked/etc. But I guess Disney has even chased them away. Well done.
Those both had popular actresses and great set design and outfit design. Snow White has farquad hair and nightmare cgi.
 
On the budget talk, for reference Wicked cost $140 million. While none of us have seen these films, is there anything to explain why Snow White would have cost so much more? Wicked had lots of CGI. Lots of practical sets.

Almost every zoomer guy I know watches Statham slop. It's nothing special but think back to when you were a dumb teenager and liked watching generic action movies with the same plot because they had cool dudes beating each other up.

He has a very broad appeal. He's reliable, even if the film isn't. It could easily be said he's a "dad" genre actor. Probably just a actor that appeals to most men. The latest season of Reacher is finished, what to watch now? Oh a new Statham film.
 
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reshooting the entire movie a couple of times isn't cheap

I asked Grok, I'll just post the summary.

Summary of Reported Figures Over Time
  • Pre-Production (2016–2020): Estimated $180 million (speculative, original intent).
  • Production (2022–2023): $200–240 million (early estimates); $269.4 million by December 2023 (Forbes, pre-tax credit); $213.9 million net after $55.5 million reimbursement.
  • Post-Production (2024): $240–270 million (Variety, Deadline); $300–350 million (World of Reel, The New York Times, factoring reshoots).
  • After Release (2025): $240–270 million production + $70–100 million marketing = $350–450 million total (consensus range); up to $500 million speculated on X (unverified).
The budget’s evolution reflects a project plagued by delays, creative pivots, and rising costs, with reporting shifting from optimistic projections to stark post-release analysis. While Disney has not officially confirmed a final figure, the consensus lands between $350–450 million all-in, making Snow White one of the priciest Disney live-action remakes to date— dwarfed only by its own controversies and financial uncertainty.
 
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