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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,087 68.9%
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Fatsuit Shinji said:
Only if you're a tech illiterate normie who can't use the internet. Or don't or won't play video games. As other options were there online since the mid 1990ies. Or just do offline stuff outside of the house.
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I can't picture someone a quarter my age doing what I did 40 years ago.
 
Scientifically Inaccurate said:
It has to be intentional; imagine the amount of effort you would need to put in to find someone who doesn't like Lilo and Stitch to the point where they can't just grin and bear it for the paycheck and feels they must change large parts of the film.

I mean, we all knew there would be tantrums from the usual subjects about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs being too problematic, but no one saw Lilo and Stitch coming. They had to be actively searching for people who wanted to screw with it.
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The worst part is, supposedly the original creator approved the changes because they were “more authentic to Hawaiian culture”. The neighborhood coming together to raise Lilo so Nani can go off to college is “just what the (whatever fucking Hawaiian term he used for it) does”, even though it makes the movie itself way fucking worse.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
The title itself "Disenchanted" almost sounds like a satire as well, but they 100% seriously meant it, like a badfic come to life. They're open about their disdain for everything positive that happened under the watch of the pre-Iger eras. Either they cannot find people anymore who actually likes the source materials and want to do things with them, or they're actually allergic to fans and that's part of the vetting process.

Disney's gonna be lucky to make it past the 2030s at this rate.
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It's an ideology that finds issues with everything. Look at that Rachel Zegler discussing the old material. It's that postmodernist, post-structuralist mindset of everything is wrong and needs to be torn apart or changed.

When hiring for a remake, what would they be hiring people on? The script is already there. It'll be their take on the material and how they can improve it through the lense of woke retardation, making changes. Choices are made not from creative grounds, but how they fit the ideology.

Giving Nani agency and going to college is considered a more important virtue than something "outdated" like family. That's not pro women or however they'd frame it. Focusing on these kind of changes, things that are wrong also leads to many themes and elements of the originals getting lost.
 
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Grand Duke Snowfall said:
https://x.com/Variety/status/1958532290763743473 Seems like a bit too little too late. You already chased off that audience by fucking up what they love while screaming “ITS NOT FOR YOU”. Might take a Hail Mary to win a lot of it back.
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I was just about to make a thread about this, but then I remembered this general. Lmao.

My more pessimistic side thinks they lost that audience for good. Or rather, it will take a lot of work to get them back.
In the 90s and 2000s, you would be able to laugh off the anime audience. Those GEEKS with their anime convention and their fanservice? Ha, please. Post-COVID, it should be very clear that the anime audience is no joke.
Netflix Says 50 Percent of Global Users Now Watch Anime, Reveals Expanded Slate
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Anyways, that Variety article is so funny.
Who would have guessed that Fantastic Four would underwhelm with that drop after the first weekend? Oh, right. Not that many people ever cared about Fantastic Four. And I say that as someone that liked the Jessica Alba versions.
Who could have guessed that not that many people wanted to see 80 year old Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones again?
How could these supposed experts have known that people didn't actually care that much for their versions of Captain Marvel or She-Hulk?
It might have come up before, but I know Gen Z men would probably like this version of Carol Danvers (then Ms. Marvel):
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But no - that's too sexy. Too much MALE GAZE on this design.
Ditto for She Hulk, there are versions that are hot and likable. Can't have MALE GAZE, though, right?
 
Lucas Silva #4903141 said:
In the 90s and 2000s, you would be able to laugh off the anime audience. Those GEEKS with their anime convention and their fanservice? Ha, please. Post-COVID, it should be very clear that the anime audience is no joke.
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This is something Euro Disney didn't do as they were much more aware of anime. As they were the French half of the 2006 Frog-Jap collaboration's Oban Star Racers.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
Ohhhhh that's why it aired on Jetix. Still's such a damn good show, though.
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Oban, W.I.T.C.H. and others made Jetix a solid lineup. Then Disney got retarded yeeted the good shows and later Jetix entirely. Right when Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon were completing against Disney on who can go full retard first and harder.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Oban, W.I.T.C.H. and others made Jetix a solid lineup. Then Disney got retarded yeeted the good shows and later Jetix entirely. Right when Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon were completing against Disney on who can go full retard first and harder.
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I remember that time. They shat the bed at the exact time anime started becoming mainstream amongst geeks and nerds in the West. I am willing to bet that if Western animation was better during that time, anime domination would have been delayed by 2 to 4 years.
 
Incecticyder said:
I remember that time. They shat the bed at the exact time anime started becoming mainstream amongst geeks and nerds in the West. I am willing to bet that if Western animation was better during that time, anime domination would have been delayed by 2 to 4 years.
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Anime was already becoming mainstream in the mid-late 90ies. As mainstream normies and casuals just started to notice and differentiate anime from other "cartoons." Secondly, up to the mid-late 00s, American* animation was holding its own and needed self-sabotaging by the networks, studios and creators for anime to supercede them.

*Would've wrote "western" but I really don't know enough of the Euro animation situation at the time to comment on it.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Only if you're a tech illiterate normie who can't use the internet. Or don't or won't play video games. As other options were there online since the mid 1990ies. Or just do offline stuff outside of the house.
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Even in the 1980s video rental stores were full of foreign and indie films. Granted most of them were terrible, but you had options.

And even in gaming you had the whole microcomputer ecosystem where anybody could code their own game, versus something as tightly controlled as the home console market.
 
Jetix is such an interesting time capsule when it comes to Disney history because it was a time where they were desperately trying to get in on the action cartoon shows that Warner Brothers had locked in since the 90s.

It's actually where I saw the first several seasons of Digimon because they consistently aired it and W.I.T.C.H. was probably the closest thing we ever had to a western equivalent of Sailor Moon which is doubly impressive because I feel like if they made it today it would be insufferably on the nose.

Disney was also whoring around power rangers at that time and they decided to make Jetix its primary home while they still had it.

It really is a look into a lost era, because cartoon that center primarily on action are a lost art
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Anime was already becoming mainstream in the mid-late 90ies. As mainstream normies and casuals just started to notice and differentiate anime from other "cartoons." Secondly, up to the mid-late 00s, American* animation was holding its own and needed self-sabotaging by the networks, studios and creators for anime to supercede them.
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I am not saying that anime was not reaching mainstream already. However, Western cartoons were still the main animation you saw being talked about. Anime was DBZ and little more back then unless you knew where to look. Even later in the 00s, that was still the case but shows based on anime started making an appearance. Still, if it were not for Disney, Nickelodeon and Warner shitting the bed when it came to animation, anime would have been a merely a contender as opposed to the complete dominator it is now.
 
My memory is really fuzzy, but back in the day I remember that when anime was really hitting the mainstream like pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and DBZ they could be rationalized by kids as just being another variation of action cartoons.

A lot of anime back then air predominantly on toonami, and because CN was predominantly run by pretty enthusiastic gen xers that were animation heads so you constantly saw an influx of different cartoons from the silent, golden age, dark age, and the Renaissance era.

That kind of help anime become more normalized especially when millennials grew up and started making their own stuff.

Now in the grand year 2025, it's not even surprising to see a bunch of animated films flat out take from anime tropes
 
So, anybody who remembers Lightyear, you know that piece of shit that was meant to show the "True Origins" of Buzz Lightyear from the classic Pixar film Toy Story.
The same movie that was outdone by an animated series from the early 2000s, which Pixar had little to do with, and they despised its existence.

Well, apparently, it got into controversy AGAIN when Snoop Dogg didn't want to bring his grandchildren to a movie where a lesbian couple were able to bang and have a baby because he found it awkward as fuck and impossible to explain to grandkids.


Of course, the "fans" of Lightyear did not take kindly to the fact that the famous rapper did not want to take his own Grandkids to a movie that cares more about being gay than about space travel and proceeded to attack him on Twitter/X.
They even brought up a classic line from the new voice actor for Lightyear, Chris Evans, about how the critics deserve to "die off" like the Dinosaurs.

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Which is made even funnier when you remember that this film lost against one of the Jurassic World movies, a franchise people don't even like but prefer it over all the other gay crap that comes out of Hollywood.

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/n...lts-dinosaurs-rule-lightyear-fails-to-takeoff
 
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Jormungand said:
So, anybody who remembers Lightyear, you know that piece of shit that was meant to show the "True Origins" of Buzz Lightyear from the classic Pixar film Toy Story.
The same movie that was outdone by an animation series from the early 2000s, which Pixar had little to do with, and they despised its existence.

Well, apparently, it got into controversy AGAIN when Snoop Dogg didn't want to bring his grandchildren to a movie where a lesbian couple were able to bang and a baby because he found it awkward as fuck and impossible to explain to grandkids.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=G9Ui_xczFYk
Of course, the "fans" of Lightyear did not take kindly to the fact that the famous rapper did not want to take his own Grandkids to a movie that cares more about being gay than about space travel and proceeded to attack him on Twitter/X.
They even brought up a classic line from the new voice actor for Lightyear, Chris Evans, about how the critics deserve to "die off" like the Dinosaurs.

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Which is made even funnier when you remember that this film lost against one of the Jurassic World movies, a franchise people don't even like but prefer it over all the other gay crap that comes out of Hollywood.

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/n...lts-dinosaurs-rule-lightyear-fails-to-takeoff
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the Uncle Tom Maxim at it again:
A black person says anything that does not conform to the globohomo hivemind, he is a traitor and deserves to be lynched defrauded.
 
Anime was referenced in MST3K Merlins Shop of Mystical Wonders episode in 1999, though it was called Japanimation, the older name.

Mike: Why, here's something else Satan created: Japanimation!
Servo: It's the anime version of Peter Rabbit.

Not really relevant, but I hear the line in my head when people get worked up about anime.
 
The Mighty Banth said:
Anime was referenced in MST3K Merlins Shop of Mystical Wonders episode in 1999, though it was called Japanimation, the older name.

Mike: Why, here's something else Satan created: Japanimation!
Servo: It's the anime version of Peter Rabbit.

Not really relevant, but I hear the line in my head when people get worked up about anime.
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Sci-Fi channel used to play anime before the 9:30am Saturday airings of MSTK reruns. That was how I was introduced to anime. I also seem to remember Japanimation being a term for anime at some point back in the day.
 
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