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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
Maybe because Disney keeps trying to appeal to manchildren and woke activists. Also, this trend of making relatable, quirky characters.
This is why I wish Disney would go back to adapting fairytales, myths, and folklore. Imo that was always their speciality and it shows with how a good chunk of their “original” works are either decent/mediocre at best or trashfires at worst. I always thought Pixar was the better studio when it came to creating original stories.

Like I said before, they never should’ve cancelled Gigantic, and I’ll also add that they never should’ve scrapped the original version of Frozen, aka The Snow Queen. Frozen was ok, but ultimately a hollow shell of what it was and could’ve been.
 
>has an Owl House avatar
>calls other people faggots

Fucking omega-lul. Projection much?

Edit: HAHAHAHA HE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE AVATAR AFTER I CALLED HIM OUT. FUCKING TOP KEK
I bet you he sounds like Paul Lynde in real life.
First off, @Vyse Inglebard:

It doesn't matter that I changed my profile picture, you retarded faggot; you thought that by pointing that out that you'll be better than me? I thought you were better than to do that kind of shit, but really, you're not. I may be gay, but you are certainly a niggerfaggot; kill yourself, shithead.

Second, @Steamboat_Bill:

You are on a site where troon-hate and bashing degenerate faggots are the corner stones of its being, how do you reconcile with tha fact? I hate libshits, like you, and will use anything to upend your lives, no matter what it takes.

Third:

Rich (BB code):
N I G G E R

And finally:


Anyway, Disney executives will do the bare minimum of appealing to their homorot staff so long as they do their projects peacefully, and will only side with them for so long, and for so much, as long as their pet projects don't get affected. but I will not tolerate faggots that work for them, such as Dana Terrace and Joaquin Baldwin, among others.

EDIT: I am calm, @Vyse Inglebard; please, commit suicide.
 
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It doesn't matter that I changed my profile picture, you retarded faggot; you thought that by pointing that out that you'll be better than me? I thought you were better than to do that kind of shit, but really, you're not. I may be gay, but you are certainly a niggerfaggot; kill yourself, shithead.
lol calm down.
 
I may as well respond to the Hocus Pocus stuff, even if late.
maybe its just a shitty liberal background, but thats part of the fun, people forget how different Gen-X was especially when it came to stuff like sex. teen pregnancy was at an all time high around that time despite the AIDs crisis for a reason. talking about sex was and considered "part of puberty" back then, younger sisters mocking the main character for being a virgin or loser was a huge trope back then.

also virgin blood is such a huge trope in old timey stories that it shouldn't be as big of a weird note and only is because of how sanitized these stories have become. sure people of a certain age will point out how weird the sex stuff is, but i bet to zoomers the whole "everyones white and straight" thing is another point against it. You might as well question why there aren't any moms in old animated disney films or why chose ones always seem to be adopted/orphans. don't blame the film for the weird cultural hangups of the prussians from centuries ago.
I am not sure I really have a problem with sex depicted in media, or even really talked about in kids media, I just think Hocus Pocus is poorly written that the random adults getting on a young teenager for not having sex seems weird.

The film itself is not really that funny and the plot is shit, so I think more comes off more poorly than was intended. Really, the saving grace of the film was the performances of the three witches, but past that it was pretty hard to have interest.

I guess my thoughts are it’s a bad film. If you like it, cool. I hope I don’t come off as calling for a ban as I genuinely don’t care about the content.

obviously i'm not that close with the younger ones, but i feel like their exposure to adult things is much more behind where people born in the 20th century was, but its probably a lot more based on parenting but culture has a fuckload more to do with it, no major blockbuster since 2014 has hot chicks showing off their skin like we had with star trek ito darkness, xmen first class, transformers, etc. even Megan Fox's brief career as a sex symbol isn't something that has been done effectively since, just having a hot chick for the main character to make out with at the end of the film is rare now.
I am going to disagree on this. I don’t think kids are really that behind, hell, most seem to feel they are way ahead on sexualizing themselves.

If we are looking at Zoomer kids shows there has still been tons of questionable material. For early Zoomers, many have taken to Total Drama and Victorious, which are pretty infamous for their questionable content. Really, anything made by Dan the Man or FreshTV was pretty what the fuck at times. As for the later ones, they could get indoctrinated into Tumblr shipping fetishes through Steven Universe or any Cal Farts show. If they don’t have that, then it is weird internet videos like Elsagate content. Movies and tv may not have much of what you are talking about anymore, but kids barely watch them as HollyWood only really caters to desperate Gen Xers and Millennials now. The content is still there, but the game changed.

This does bring up another point about "for kids" entertainment. what people believe should be ok for kids, especially now is much stricter than years ago. I remember Rocky Horror being my favorite movie as a kid, having it on a constant loop at family gatherings because of slightly older (middle school) cousins into it.
I am not sure it is more strict on sexual content as this thread has clearly shown, Disney is willing to now dive head first into periods and gays. It is just that most creators now are desperate Tumblr women from years ago, so they want to make their smutty orgy rather than the straight content they watched.
 
If we are looking at Zoomer kids shows there has still been tons of questionable material. For early Zoomers, many have taken to Total Drama and Victorious, which are pretty infamous for their questionable content. Really, anything made by Dan the Man or FreshTV was pretty what the fuck at times. As for the later ones, they could get indoctrinated into Tumblr shipping fetishes through Steven Universe or any Cal Farts show. If they don’t have that, then it is weird internet videos like Elsagate content. Movies and tv may not have much of what you are talking about anymore, but kids barely watch them as HollyWood only really caters to desperate Gen Xers and Millennials now. The content is still there, but the game changed.
The shows of the 90s and early 00s had as much stuff that could lead to fetishes as shows today. You only have to look around the Internet to see that.

lol calm down.
I blocked him, but yeah, the same.
 
How many people on the Disney Thread actually like Amphibia? I now see it get mentioned on 4chan’s /co/ from time to time since no one talks about The Owl House anymore.

It seems that it’s only competition is The Ghost And Molly McGee, and I always mused over the fact that if I had a daughter, she’d probably watch that cartoon as the only entertaining to come out of their network.
 
This is why I wish Disney would go back to adapting fairytales, myths, and folklore. Imo that was always their speciality and it shows with how a good chunk of their “original” works are either decent/mediocre at best or trashfires at worst. I always thought Pixar was the better studio when it came to creating original stories.

Like I said before, they never should’ve cancelled Gigantic, and I’ll also add that they never should’ve scrapped the original version of Frozen, aka The Snow Queen. Frozen was ok, but ultimately a hollow shell of what it was and could’ve been.
Frozen is something I will never understand because if they were going for feminist vibes, The Snow Queen is quite literally The Hero's Journey but with a female protagonist and passes basically every metric of a being a "feminist movie" in existence while also being a fun story with a heroine you can root for. Hell, if you wanted lesbian vibes, there's even Gerda's bandit girl friend and you wouldn't have the creepy incest undertones that Frozen does.

Meanwhile Frozen gives you one heroine who is a selfish dumbfuck that nearly kills an entire country because of a temper tantrum and another heroine who is a gullible idiot who also gets gaslighted into a romance with random peasant dude by a bunch of singing gnomes. There's a metric fuckton wrong with that movie, aside from being just plain boring. I'm not even gonna get started on Frozen 2, which manages to be even fucking worse.

Frozen is really where Disney's animated features started going rapidly downhill.
 
That's false, it was the 1997 Jungle Emperor Leo movie that "borrowed" from The Lion King. YMS went into great detail to debunk it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4
It's been debunked so many times, but people keep trying to insist it. I've even seen people claim that movie came out in the 80's to claim it was a ripoff (had an ex who believed that one). Even when you use just the 60's TV series the "proof" is so generic and weak.

Anyways none of it takes into account that Osamu Tezuka's own son said that if The Lion King is considered to be a ripoff of his father's own works, then his father would be honored that they thought he'd produced something worthy of such a thing.
 
I honestly didn't know about the Kimba thing being disproven, apologies. What I was trying to get at though was that when a company gets as big as Disney, it will attract people who claim that they stole this or that, I didnt list the others which have been disproved too, such as the book of life/Coco, that guy who said they stole from his kids book for Finding Nemo, and even someone saying they stole ideas from his stuff for Zootopia. But generally, they are either liars/stretching very hard or it was cases of same ideas at the same time.
 
It's been debunked so many times, but people keep trying to insist it. I've even seen people claim that movie came out in the 80's to claim it was a ripoff (had an ex who believed that one). Even when you use just the 60's TV series the "proof" is so generic and weak.

Anyways none of it takes into account that Osamu Tezuka's own son said that if The Lion King is considered to be a ripoff of his father's own works, then his father would be honored that they thought he'd produced something worthy of such a thing.
The thing is, Disney initially denied that anyone at the studio had ever heard of Kimba. That quickly proved not to be true. Matthew Broderick thought it was a new version of Kimba when he signed onto the film, because he'd seen it growing up. Such easily-denied lies spread the conspiracy theories.
 
Meanwhile Frozen gives you one heroine who is a selfish dumbfuck that nearly kills an entire country because of a temper tantrum and another heroine who is a gullible idiot who also gets gaslighted into a romance with random peasant dude by a bunch of singing gnomes. There's a metric fuckton wrong with that movie, aside from being just plain boring. I'm not even gonna get started on Frozen 2, which manages to be even fucking worse.
I will defend the original Frozen here as the characters’ actions do make sense in context with the movie and the beginning.

Elsa wasn’t selfish. Her parents raised her and Anna in an extremely poor fashion, likely bordering on abuse, making them who they are in the film. Elsa was told her whole life that her powers were a curse that needed to be hid away. She was never taught how to properly handle them as her parents chastised her for the very use of them. This is all without mentioning that she almost killed Anna. Elsa was locked away most of her life, so she never gained exposure to social scenarios. She was also gas lighted into never speaking to her own sister because of the incident, which created huge rifts explored in the first act of the film.

Anna was clearly left alone most of her life as her parents focused on Elsa. She was also left with no memory of the incident that forced Elsa to lock herself away, so she is left wondering why her sister doesn’t love her. After her parents die at a young age, Anna clearly has no one she can talk to, which is why she was so quick to take to Hans. Hans provided a sense of undying love that a person who lacked any would easily cling to.

The incident of Elsa running away in the first act makes more sense if you add up the pieces. This was Elsa’s first real time interacting and there was tons of shit she has to deal with. She had to keep her powers under control and hidden all while keeping her cool under the pressure of Duke Asshole and her dumbass sister trying to marry the first guy she found and gain her approval. By the end, Elsa cracked and unleashed her powers, which made her a danger to the guests right away. She hid because that was literally all she was told to do growing up, the party just reaffirmed her parents’ stance that she is a danger needing to be locked away. Let It Go is great in that it shows that she feels free away from everyone as she can use her powers without the constant threat of hurting anyone.

By the end, they try to get Elsa back to fix everything, but she doesn’t know how to use her powers, so what the fuck can she theoretically do?
 
That's false, it was the 1997 Jungle Emperor Leo movie that "borrowed" from The Lion King. YMS went into great detail to debunk it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4
I had an animation teacher who worked on the Lion King, he said they used Kimba as a reference.
Frozen is something I will never understand because if they were going for feminist vibes, The Snow Queen is quite literally The Hero's Journey but with a female protagonist and passes basically every metric of a being a "feminist movie" in existence while also being a fun story with a heroine you can root for. Hell, if you wanted lesbian vibes, there's even Gerda's bandit girl friend and you wouldn't have the creepy incest undertones that Frozen does.

Meanwhile Frozen gives you one heroine who is a selfish dumbfuck that nearly kills an entire country because of a temper tantrum and another heroine who is a gullible idiot who also gets gaslighted into a romance with random peasant dude by a bunch of singing gnomes. There's a metric fuckton wrong with that movie, aside from being just plain boring. I'm not even gonna get started on Frozen 2, which manages to be even fucking worse.

Frozen is really where Disney's animated features started going rapidly downhill.
Blame that damn song, they completely rewrote/reworked the story because the execs loved "Let It Go," which isn't really that special of a song or that remarkable. I still haven't seen it and never will; I was really hyped for the Snow Queen because it was a movie Walt wanted made and I was incredibly disappointed when it became Frozen.
 
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I had an animation teacher who worked on the Lion King, he said they used Kimba as a reference.

Blame that damn song, they completely rewrote/reworked the story because the execs loved "Let It Go," which isn't really that special of a song or that remarkable. I still haven't seen it and never will; I was really hyped for the Snow Queen because it was a movie Walt wanted made and I was incredibly disappointed when it became Frozen.
Did he tell you about the animator who showed up to the wrap party in a Kimba fursuit?
 
Why is YMS claiming Kimba didn't influence Lion King when it's very obvious, with Broderick's remarks and the guy cactus knew admitting they used Kimba as reference, that it pretty much did?

I don't get it. Is this like "Evil Dead 2 is a remake of Evil Dead 1" when it's BLATANT that it isn't?
 
Why is YMS claiming Kimba didn't influence Lion King when it's very obvious, with Broderick's remarks and the guy cactus knew admitting they used Kimba as reference, that it pretty much did?
Should also be asking why everyone is doing the logical fallacy "argument from authority" by only going by YMS said.
And ignoring everything of Kimba the White Lion's 64 year history except for one movie.
Edit: got the dates wrong as Kimba the White Lion was first published in 1950. And 34 years between the two franchises.
 
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Why is YMS claiming Kimba didn't influence Lion King when it's very obvious, with Broderick's remarks and the guy cactus knew admitting they used Kimba as reference, that it pretty much did?
Should also be asking why everyone is doing the logical fallacy "argument from authority" by only going by YMS said.
And ignoring everything of Kimba the White Lion's 64 year history except for one movie.
I believe Broderick was brought up in the video, but YMS was mostly doing the video to debunk all the popular claims and misinformation. After going through everything Kimba had to offer, he didn't write off the possibility of coincidence or that Disney might've taken influence (intentionally or not), but he doesn't believe Disney outright stole from Kimba, even though their comments on the matter have always been pretty suspicious. The 1997 movie being used as visual reference in all the videos talking about it was misleading if not deceptive, that was what he was mostly getting at.
 
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