Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Steamboat_Bill]

I don't have to tell you all to skip this and wait for the Del Toro version to drop.

 

[starborn427614]

I don't have to tell you all to skip this and wait for the Del Toro version to drop.

It will be interesting to compare the two at least.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Pinocchio himself looks cartoony (almost uncanny valley levels with the painted eyes)

Honestly, after what we got in the 90's, it's an improvement

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Honestly, after what we got in the 90's, it's an improvement
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I'mma have to respectfully disagree bud. The 1996 version, despite (or maybe even because of) how creepy it was, had a strange charm to it. A soul, if you will.

Look at this scene. Because of the amazing work of the Jim Henson Creature Shop, you feel like Pinoke's actually there, interacting with Martin Landau's Geppetto.

Now ask yourself. Do you get the same feeling from 2022 CGI Pinoke?

 

[Muttnik]

Why couldn't they just rent an actual cat and fish?

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Why couldn't they just rent an actual cat and fish?

You know how much it costs to find ones that talk?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Disney’s Live-Action 'The Little Mermaid' Star Halle Bailey Responds To Race-Swap Criticisms: “The Reassurance That Little Girls Just Like Me Should Be Princesses Was Something I Needed As A Kid”

The Little Mermaid star Halle Bailey believes that her casting as Ariel in the upcoming Disney remake is a huge win for black representation.

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We wuz mermaids n shiet. I hope this movie bombs so studios will get the message that minorities don't want white people's hand-me-downs, but I'm scared it won't since Disney's fanbase is filled with retards who'll eat anything Disney shits out no matter how bad it is.

I'm not even against it being played by a black actress. They're mythical creatures that are present in a lot of global folklore, including African. But the original Disney version was supposed to be set in the Mediterranean I believe, so they shouldn't retcon it now.
Plus, I don't want to see this actress as the Little Mermaid. She should be a shark mermaid, like a hammerhead shark mermaid. Ariel should be as pretty as possible, with no visible deformations like excessively spaced eyes. There are way prettier black actresses available.
They seem to love casting actresses that don't fit in the live action remakes. Emma Watson and her hairy eyebrows were not pretty or French enough to be Belle. The Cinderella actress was nice though and the effects on the dress were wonderful.

Halle's mermaid OC:

The Nightmare Before Christmas kicks ass, and Sally is underrated.

Also, am I the only one who prefers Tim Burton's animated works over his live action works?

I love The Corpse Bride the most of his animated stuff. I don't think it was Disney though.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

How much Disney Live-Action remakes make

I never realized they made that much honestly. That said, the profit margins would be higher if they just rereleased the original movies into theaters since that would cost almost nothing. Disney should at least do limited runs of the original a few months later. Even if it cost a few ticket sales, they'd just be transferred to the re-run plus you'd have more ticket sales from people who would never see the new one and hardcore Disney fans who'd see both.

Then again I'm the kind of person who appreciates seeing classic movies back in cinemas so new people can appreciate them as originally released.

 

[XYZpdq]

I never realized they made that much honestly. That said, the profit margins would be higher if they just rereleased the original movies into theaters since that would cost almost nothing. Disney should at least do limited runs of the original a few months later. Even if it cost a few ticket sales, they'd just be transferred to the re-run plus you'd have more ticket sales from people who would never see the new one and hardcore Disney fans who'd see both.

Then again I'm the kind of person who appreciates seeing classic movies back in cinemas so new people can appreciate them as originally released.

I think they do fathom-type one-off showings here and there?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Halle's mermaid OC:

Out of curiosity, were shark-fin mermaids ever a thing prior to One Piece?

EDIT: Oh wait a second, did you draw that for visual reference for how you think she should look? If so, my bad, I thought you were posting like a commission art of the actress (because I wouldn't put it past someone to have portraits made of them as mythical creatures, and I still have that "mermaiding" article on the mind). It's a cute drawing, just have to say.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Honestly, after what we got in the 90's, it's an improvement
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I loved this movie as a child. It's a billion times better than the new Disney trash.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

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Out of curiosity, were shark-fin mermaids ever a thing prior to One Piece?

EDIT: Oh wait a second, did you draw that for visual reference for how you think she should look? If so, my bad, I thought you were posting like a commission art of the actress (because I wouldn't put it past someone to have portraits made of them as mythical creatures, and I still have that "mermaiding" article on the mind). It's a cute drawing, just have to say.

Naw, IDK how to draw. I just Googled hammerhead shark mermaid. That would be hilarious if the actress actually did that though. I guess she doesn't have to, bc Disney is creating one for her for free.
I'm not sure if shark mermaids existed before bc I never watched One Piece. There's definitely some monster girl art of shark mermaids though. But it's a bit rare. I personally prefer eel mermaids, even more underappreciated. There's somewhat of a cultural precedent in some places bc eels are seen as a fertility symbol.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Disney should at least do limited runs of the original a few months later. Even if it cost a few ticket sales, they'd just be transferred to the re-run plus you'd have more ticket sales from people who would never see the new one and hardcore Disney fans who'd see both.

These live action remakes are made for dickheads who think they are either too good, or feel too embarrassed to watch the originals (even though they have no issues watching Disney's latest CGI films and pre-teen lesbian cartoons). They want the feeling of nostalgia, but in a new, cool way!

'I'm like, totally an animation nerd! I have the special collection box set of Rick and Morty, right next to Family Guy, lol! What, no I haven't watched the original Pinocchio in years, that's like, for kids! Besides, Lindsay Ellis said that the original is kinda problematic'...

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

These live action remakes are made for dickheads who think they are either too good, or feel too embarrassed to watch the originals (even though they have no issues watching Disney's latest CGI films and pre-teen lesbian cartoons). They want the feeling of nostalgia, but in a new, cool way!

'I'm like, totally an animation nerd! I have the special collection box set of Rick and Morty, right next to Family Guy, lol! What, no I haven't watched the original Pinocchio in years, that's like, for kids! Besides, Lindsay Ellis said that the original is kinda problematic'...

They are more so made for adults who believe they are too old for animation yet probably still hold nostalgia for Disney properties. People like my mom who couldn’t give a shit about animation past watching it with the kids, but did enjoy Beauty and The Beast all those years ago.

In reality, for as much as general audiences love their cape shit, space wizards, or any other children’s franchise, animation is still seen as too kiddy to watch theatrically. It is how we will get people who will watch every god damn MCU film, yet Spider-Verse is not worth seeing and looks like a bad kids film to them. What makes rereleasing the originals worse is the already present stigma against 2D film animation as older folks gave up on 2D come Toy Story and Shrek as Disney’s 2000s output was shit to them and all the adult animation was CGI.

 

[MysticMisty]

I just rewatched this recently, and it’s very, very 20’s. The animation is smooth, and I can see why it would wow audiences back then, but it’s also very meandering and parts really drag on, just to show off the animation it feels like.

That's a problem a lot of the shorts back then had as well. Think about how many of them are just basically animals and/or inanimate objects in a field/room just frolicking and dancing with no plot whatsoever. I think they entirely weren't sure what to do to fill the runtime and just fell back on what they knew best with the worst kind of Silly Symphony tier antics.

It doesn't help either that they had a hell of a time animating the humans and apparently cut almost all the scenes they had planned for the prince.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

The faerie tale theatre episode of Pinocchio is the best one

 

[Fat Tub of Lard]

'I'm like, totally an animation nerd! I have the special collection box set of Rick and Morty, right next to Family Guy, lol! What, no I haven't watched the original Pinocchio in years, that's like, for kids! Besides, Lindsay Ellis said that the original is kinda problematic'...

And thus the mainstream entertainment industry is in a state of flux. See what happens when you listen to pretentious ex-Channel Awesome cancer?

They are more so made for adults who believe they are too old for animation yet probably still hold nostalgia for Disney properties. People like my mom who couldn’t give a shit about animation past watching it with the kids, but did enjoy Beauty and The Beast all those years ago.

In reality, for as much as general audiences love their cape shit, space wizards, or any other children’s franchise, animation is still seen as too kiddy to watch theatrically. It is how we will get people who will watch every god damn MCU film, yet Spider-Verse is not worth seeing and looks like a bad kids film to them. What makes rereleasing the originals worse is the already present stigma against 2D film animation as older folks gave up on 2D come Toy Story and Shrek as Disney’s 2000s output was shit to them and all the adult animation was CGI.

To be fair, a lot of the apparent bad blood towards 2D came as a result of the amount of cash-grabs that were made in 2D. Remember, there were a lot of 2D movies made on the heels of the Disney Renaissance, and most of them were shit on a shingle (The Iron Giant was an exception, and even that drew an audience of crickets at the box office no thaks to WB screwing up its release). There's a reason people gravitated to the CGI stuff: not only was it new, but Pixar's stuff was tailor made to be well written enough to hold up long after the medium was well-established, and even non-Disney CG films like Shrek and Ice Age were seen as better than the 2D stuff of years prior.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

These live action remakes are made for dickheads who think they are either too good, or feel too embarrassed to watch the originals (even though they have no issues watching Disney's latest CGI films and pre-teen lesbian cartoons). They want the feeling of nostalgia, but in a new, cool way!

'I'm like, totally an animation nerd! I have the special collection box set of Rick and Morty, right next to Family Guy, lol! What, no I haven't watched the original Pinocchio in years, that's like, for kids! Besides, Lindsay Ellis said that the original is kinda problematic'...

All of that is irrelevant

Those movies are made so that The Mouse can keep "owning" the copyright to the characters, titles....
By releasing a new version of the movie they extend their grip on what was, old folktales, stories and characters that are public domain. It just exist to protect IPs.

 

[Dewy60]

I'mma have to respectfully disagree bud. The 1996 version, despite (or maybe even because of) how creepy it was, had a strange charm to it. A soul, if you will.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yoaT3lKcXgQ:46Look at this scene. Because of the amazing work of the Jim Henson Creature Shop, you feel like Pinoke's actually there, interacting with Martin Landau's Geppetto.
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Now ask yourself. Do you get the same feeling from 2022 CGI Pinoke?

Why is this image look off, especially on the cg?

 

[MysticMisty]

To be fair, a lot of the apparent bad blood towards 2D came as a result of the amount of cash-grabs that were made in 2D. Remember, there were a lot of 2D movies made on the heels of the Disney Renaissance, and most of them were shit on a shingle (The Iron Giant was an exception, and even that drew an audience of crickets at the box office no thaks to WB screwing up its release). There's a reason people gravitated to the CGI stuff: not only was it new, but Pixar's stuff was tailor made to be well written enough to hold up long after the medium was well-established, and even non-Disney CG films like Shrek and Ice Age were seen as better than the 2D stuff of years prior.

Don't forget Disney themselves pumping out all those cheap direct to video sequels and prequels themselves. Nobody asked or wanted sequels to movies with "...And they lived happily ever after," as the ending. Nobody wondered how Cinderella liked living in the castle, or what happened to Mulan after she hooked up with the general, or what Bambi did after his mom died. But parents didn't care, because it was cheap entertainment to shut their kids up for a while, and in the case if controversial sad movies, so they could share their childhood favorite without actually to show the movie and maybe upset their kids.