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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
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Disney has pretty much abandoned kids and gone all in on gay worship. I know faggots spend a lot of money at their parks, but was it really worth it to endorse a world view that results in cratering birthrates? It's like Mattel going all in on a Barbie Movie that panders to childless, man hating 40 year old women, not realizing that their brand will be worthless in a few years as white people die out and there's no one really interested in their products anymore.
 
Pokemon Conquistador said:
Disney has pretty much abandoned kids and gone all in on gay worship. I know faggots spend a lot of money at their parks, but was it really worth it to endorse a world view that results in cratering birthrates? It's like Mattel going all in on a Barbie Movie that panders to childless, man hating 40 year old women, not realizing that their brand will be worthless in a few years as white people die out and there's no one really interested in their products anymore.
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Disney is doing what comic books did, ultimately to their detriment - focus on the hardcore fans of the brands at the expense of the casual fans and kids that actually made 'em big business in the first place.

Comic books saw the direct market (IE comic shops) catering to fans as a godsend and at first, it was. But focusing on the product to only the hardcores meant not only did it become harder to find comics anywhere outside comic shops that may be very far away at best but focusing on said hardcores meant pandering to them more and more to make up for lost revenue - and we all know the stereotype of the average comic fan and comic shop. And so the ouroboros kept eating itself as comics became physically (comic shops kept dying due to lack of customers) and storyline (endless continuity porn, stupid plots, "maturity" being sex and drugs and death) inaccessible to anyone else.

Disney is playing a dangerous game not merely by virtue-signaling with the LGBT and race-swapping stuff, but replacing the turned-off families with Disney Adults as their financial bread-and-butter for parks and merch: those guys do NOT have kids and will fall into debt, die, or eventually move on to a new addiction (some combo thereof, even?) and Disney won't have a next generation to rely on anymore because average families will remember them butchering universal appeal for twitterina asspats. And if they don't move away from that now, they'll be forced to bow down more and more to the woke and milk the ever-decreasing pool of Disney Adults (remember, they're usually childless for a reason...) or else course-correct too late and be raked over the coals by the woke and dogpiled by embittered right-wingers.

And when it happens, I will have a front row seat and popcorn for that inevitable shitshow.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
I hope your film tanks harder than any film has tanked before.
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@Celebrate Nite thanks for uploading the video. Anyway she makes Brie Larson look charming and friendly by contrast and that's impressive. Hell I now have respect for Emma Watson because she didn't whine about how Beauty and the Beast encourages women to put up with abusive men, a feminist take that I have to reluctantly agree with as The Beast was a fucking dickhead at the start. Really I thought actors were taught early on by their PR to STFU and just always talk positively about their movies.

"Well the original came out in 1937 and EVIDENTLY SOOOOO." Bitch it was a landmark film that turned Walt Disney from an animated shorts producer to a major player in Hollywood. If I were a higher up at Disney I'd be yelling.

And if you've radically changed the story well then it's no longer a "remake" of Walt Disney's "Snow White And The Seven Dwarves." It's just another adaptation entirely, no different than the Kristen Stewart Snow White movies. But maybe that's what Disney's PR Lawyers told her not to do because there's probably a segment of the population that believes Disney created Snow White and they want to keep that going.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
@Celebrate Nite thanks for uploading the video. Anyway she makes Brie Larson look charming and friendly by contrast and that's impressive. Hell I now have respect for Emma Watson because she didn't whine about how Beauty and the Beast encourages women to put up with abusive men, a feminist take that I have to reluctantly agree with as The Beast was a fucking dickhead at the start. Really I thought actors were taught early on by their PR to STFU and just always talk positively about their movies.

"Well the original came out in 1937 and EVIDENTLY SOOOOO." Bitch it was a landmark film that turned Walt Disney from an animated shorts producer to a major player in Hollywood. If I were a higher up at Disney I'd be yelling.

And if you've radically changed the story well then it's no longer a "remake" of Walt Disney's "Snow White And The Seven Dwarves." It's just another adaptation entirely, no different than the Kristen Stewart Snow White movies. But maybe that's what Disney's PR Lawyers told her not to do because there's probably a segment of the population that believes Disney created Snow White and they want to keep that going.
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Sick, sad world we live in where history doesn't matter.
 
Rachel Zeigler is hilarious.

If that Hunger Games prequel tanks, and it might, her film career will consist of a list of some of the biggest box office bombs of the decade.

West Side Story. Shazam 2. Snow White.

Damn near every one lost or is on track to lose over 100 million at the box office.

Even in the long history of nepobabies handed film careers and failing, Ziegler will be one for the record books.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
Hell I now have respect for Emma Watson because she didn't whine about how Beauty and the Beast encourages women to put up with abusive men, a feminist take that I have to reluctantly agree with as The Beast was a fucking dickhead at the start.
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He was a dick who snarled at her at the beginning, but he never struck her or belittled her. Gaston's the actual abuser-in-progress due to how much he got angry over not having any control/power over her to the point he was going to find potentially unethical ways to force her to marry him. Beast had his servants giving him advice/keeping him on a leash so he could've become abusive had he been left alone for all those years, but being a selfish asshole =/= abusive.

The feminist take of it being about Stockholm Syndrome was always bullshit, and the same goes for saying Beast was being abusive. Yelling at each other in an argument is not abusive unless you're purposefully tearing one or each other down for the sake of having more power/control in the argument. The scene with Beast and Belle arguing after the wolf pack scene was not abusive, as both made good points, but one made more of an impact with facts that couldn't be refuted because it was something that put both their lives in danger. And even then, she still thanked him for saving her life as she's treating his wounds, ending it on a more positive note that allowed them to calm down around each other, and Beast was then willing to make the effort to change his behavior.

Emma Watson still had too much control over Belle, but whether it was due to professionalism or she never actually bought into the Stockholm Syndrome lie, she didn't make an ass out of herself in the interviews nor tore down the original movie/fairy tale to make her movie look better. She's from a somewhat-different time, and it shows.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
whine about how Beauty and the Beast encourages women to put up with abusive men, a feminist take that I have to reluctantly agree with as The Beast was a fucking dickhead at the start
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Remember that feminism in the last decade is built on bitter hag feminists actively sabotaging young women to be miserable as they are. A "stick to your abuser since you are the only one who can fix him" is 100% an approved message, while "stick to a man who unconditionally helps you" is framed as the woman being taken advantage of.

I do agree with @Kari Kamiya on Disney animated film being innocent of that idea.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
He was a dick who snarled at her at the beginning, but he never struck her or belittled her. Gaston's the actual abuser-in-progress due to how much he got angry over not having any control/power over her to the point he was going to find potentially unethical ways to force her to marry him. Beast had his servants giving him advice/keeping him on a leash so he could've become abusive had he been left alone for all those years, but being a selfish asshole =/= abusive.

The feminist take of it being about Stockholm Syndrome was always bullshit, and the same goes for saying Beast was being abusive. Yelling at each other in an argument is not abusive unless you're purposefully tearing one or each other down for the sake of having more power/control in the argument. The scene with Beast and Belle arguing after the wolf pack scene was not abusive, as both made good points, but one made more of an impact with facts that couldn't be refuted because it was something that put both their lives in danger. And even then, she still thanked him for saving her life as she's treating his wounds, ending it on a more positive note that allowed them to calm down around each other, and Beast was then willing to make the effort to change his behavior.

Emma Watson still had too much control over Belle, but whether it was due to professionalism or she never actually bought into the Stockholm Syndrome lie, she didn't make an ass out of herself in the interviews nor tore down the original movie/fairy tale to make her movie look better. She's from a somewhat-different time, and it shows.
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Remember that feminism in the last decade is built on bitter hag feminists actively sabotaging young women to be miserable as they are. A "stick to your abuser since you are the only one who can fix him" is 100% an approved message, while "stick to a man who unconditionally helps you" is framed as the woman being taken advantage of.

I do agree with @Kari Kamiya on Disney animated film being innocent of that idea.
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Yes I'd agree that the movie doesn't indoctrinate little girls into thinking they can turn a "beast" into a loving man. I believe women only find themselves willing to put themselves thru toxic relationships because they witnessed their own mother's getting abused. I'm just saying I can get why a woman would have potential hang ups with the movie in the same way a lot of women consider James Bond movies to be sexist.

Back to Snow White it just amuses me that they're still calling it a remake. I haven't seen that cartoon since childhood. What do I remember? The Magic Mirror, the Queen turning herself into a hag, but most of all the Seven Dwarves. Dopey was the star of that movie.
And if you don't have a kid/midge with Down Syndome falling all over the place for my amusement I'm not seeing your remake.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
He was a dick who snarled at her at the beginning, but he never struck her or belittled her. Gaston's the actual abuser-in-progress due to how much he got angry over not having any control/power over her to the point he was going to find potentially unethical ways to force her to marry him. Beast had his servants giving him advice/keeping him on a leash so he could've become abusive had he been left alone for all those years, but being a selfish asshole =/= abusive.

The feminist take of it being about Stockholm Syndrome was always bullshit, and the same goes for saying Beast was being abusive.
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The feminist take on Beauty and the Beast was always wrong. It was actually a message to young rich men about what women to marry. In most versions of the story, Beauty has a couple of bitchy, vain sisters who only care about wealth, and who try to sabotage Beauty's relationship out of jealousy of all the gifts the Beast has given her. The story is basically a warning to young men to avoid the bad women, and to put themselves into the hands of kindly women like Beauty who are loyal to their Daddies and who will humanize and civilize them.

The Disney version of the story shifted the target audience from men to women, making Beauty an audience stand-in who was book-smart, pretty, independent, and had two powerful men fighting over her. The dangerous brute with a heart of gold who needs a strong willed woman to save him has been a staple of romance novels for a long time and Beast represents this archetype, while Gaston represents a handsome, bad boy brute who, alas, can't be redeemed because he wants to control the heroine and take her books away.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
I hope your film tanks harder than any film has tanked before.
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Celebrate Nite said:
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This chick is fucking obnoxious as hell
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Maybe I reposted it on here, but I’m sharing it again:

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Regardless of how bad this fails, no one should be surprised at the fact that a woman with the least likable response will be overshadowed by a woman whose looks and PR image at least makes her look professional, even if she inevitably believes her because they told her behind the scenes to follow the script.

In other words, I don’t know who this “Snow White” is, but I know that that is NOT my Snow White.
 
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