Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Doctor of Autism]

This feels so cynical

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

I saw that video. It was a good takedown. Rachel has to be the most successful failed actress in the history of Hollyweird (weird, weird). Every film she took part in was a failure and yet she is still given roles. That is probably coming to an end though.

covid is to blame, all the release dates of everything being pushed back which leads to her retaining her a-list status a lot longer than usual.

Never forget the time Ian McKellen broke down crying while filming one of the Hobbit movies because he was surrounded by greenscreen and pictures of the other actors' faces.

really tells you how amazing of an actor michael jordan was to also be forced to interact with nothing and made it believable

Baffling, but okay, whatever. The aesthetics and name alone should sell the movie...right?
It has been 15 years since Legacy. And that's early compared to the time between Tron Legacy and the first Tron movie, which was close to 30 years.
I'm not seeing Olivia Wilde in the cast. Or the other protagonist from Legacy. Hmm. What a strange franchise.

tron was always a cult classic type of film, some comedian joked that Al Gore was such a dweeb his favorite film was tron. look at Tron Guy

Legacy itself sucked too, i'll admit 90% of that might be because i was out of age by the time i saw it but the plot itself sucked and was hilariously simple, with action scenes that were mostly boring and very front loaded. as much as people whine about Disney, they knew they had a hard time finding profitable movies to appeal to the boy/young male demo and they spend all of the 2000s trying to find a property they'd latch onto and spent a hilarious amount trying to do it.

it was like how Sony keeps shitting out films based on Spider-man and none of them working. there's a reason Bob Iger's "fuck it i'll just buy our way to success" has worked out overall.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

This feels so cynical

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Old posters: “Look at all these beloved memorable characters we have and the new little oddball!”
New poster: “Look at all these properties we own!”

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

they knew they had a hard time finding profitable movies to appeal to the boy/young male demo and they spend all of the 2000s trying to find a property they'd latch onto and spent a hilarious amount trying to do it.

there's probably a decent book to get out of that behind-the-scenes stuff, because yeah they just kept trying and trying and it NEVER clicked

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

there's probably a decent book to get out of that behind-the-scenes stuff, because yeah they just kept trying and trying and it NEVER clicked

there's been multiple books on it, John Carter especially. But none of them really get to the meat of the matter, the types of themes disney tries are too niche for their budgets, most young men enjoy anime and gravitated towards it in the 2000s because it was full of action and sexualized women and blood and even the young men not into that were into Jackass or Viva la bam or other high energy stuff and either idea would have no shot of being greenlight by family friendly Disney.

the Sci-fi/fantasy stuff does have an audience in young men, its just very niche, which is why the hellboy films are completely different from the comics which are more similar to Atlantis, same thing with Tron:Legacy and John Carter, that type of bland content has an audience, but its very small to the point where even Sci-fi channel had tv movies and mini-series that didn't break even catering to them.

the protagonist of Tron:Legacy is as bland as a disney princess, but because men don't identify with characters the way girls do, plotting the films or characters in the same way would never work.

 

[Jace on ice]

This feels so cynical

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I understand that that's how the character originally looked but those soulless black eyes do not make the transition from animated film to live action well, they are terrifying.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

This feels so cynical

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Literal pitbull eyes.

 

[Incecticyder]

covid is to blame, all the release dates of everything being pushed back which leads to her retaining her a-list status a lot longer than usual.

True but between WSS, Shazam, HG prequel, Y2K and SW (did she have more?) she did have more roles than some upstart was to have. She even had Paddington before she was recast. For an amateurish and homely (not outright ugly but still) actress, she was very desirable. I get that she is a singing Latina but still.

 

[LawTwitter is Dumb]

Tron Ares completely just makes Tron Legacy completely pointless to even exist. Sucks they never made a third Tron movie

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

Disney will sooner remake the black cauldron before they acknowledge atlantis and treasure planet exist.

Not that I'm complaining, it just means they're safe from cultural vandalism, but its still funny.

It would be a crime for a movie as good as Black Cauldron to be remade.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Old posters: “Look at all these beloved memorable characters we have and the new little oddball!”
New poster: “Look at all these properties we own!”
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Also the old poster kept constant with the trailers. Jasmine still wants to fuck Stitch.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Old posters: “Look at all these beloved memorable characters we have and the new little oddball!”
New poster: “Look at all these properties we own!”
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I was about to make this exact post when I saw the poster. Absolutely disheartening.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

as much as people whine about Disney, they knew they had a hard time finding profitable movies to appeal to the boy/young male demo and they spend all of the 2000s trying to find a property they'd latch onto and spent a hilarious amount trying to do it.

there's a reason Bob Iger's "fuck it i'll just buy our way to success" has worked out overall.

And yet, they let the leftist IDpol true believers who have become too many of the cogs in their machinery to turn the properties they bought to appeal to men - Marvel and Star Wars - to become far more focused on catering to liberal women and minorities, usually childless, the wine aunt stereotype extraordinaire. Except it turns out men within the minorities and non-liberal women don't even like the slop the MCU and Star Wars has become, to say nothing of men in general, and now we see Disney losing far too much money than it should on these massive flops while lucky they can coast by on merch and parks.

A year, maybe year and a half ago, I called out (and it was one of my first highlights on the forum!) that Disney would have to pivot back to appealing to four quadrant and especially non-liberal types when profits began sinking, only to find they won't be trusted again by those demos for a long time, while the lefty twitterinas they decided to appeal to will screech at being "betrayed" and in particular those in the company won't be kicked out of it without a fight. It looks like Disney's in the starting stages of that period now. Couldn't happen to a more deserving company.

 

[William Murderface]

there's been multiple books on it, John Carter especially. But none of them really get to the meat of the matter, the types of themes disney tries are too niche for their budgets, most young men enjoy anime and gravitated towards it in the 2000s because it was full of action and sexualized women and blood and even the young men not into that were into Jackass or Viva la bam or other high energy stuff and either idea would have no shot of being greenlight by family friendly Disney.

the Sci-fi/fantasy stuff does have an audience in young men, its just very niche, which is why the hellboy films are completely different from the comics which are more similar to Atlantis, same thing with Tron:Legacy and John Carter, that type of bland content has an audience, but its very small to the point where even Sci-fi channel had tv movies and mini-series that didn't break even catering to them.

the protagonist of Tron:Legacy is as bland as a disney princess, but because men don't identify with characters the way girls do, plotting the films or characters in the same way would never work.

It astounds that for decades Disney keeps trying to find a way to have that male audience, figure out to just buy Marvel Comics and then Star Wars/Indiana Jones and then instead of cultivating their new boy audiences, the proceeds to just turn the properties into Girl Power Action Heroine factories.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

"Look David, I got a dog!"

This is kind of nitpicky but little things like this show a lack of care. They couldn't push the chair, move the camera a little, and do a retake so it looks more like she's actually pointing at Stitch? These remakes aren't even worth pirating.

Didn't she have something to at least interact with during filming?

I found the footage from last year that I remember seeing something of, and yes, it looks like there was a Stitch prop that they had to have been using.

This has to be purposeful. Maybe some rogue animator was "quiet protesting" or something.

 

[invisibult plus+]

This feels so cynical

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Old posters: “Look at all these beloved memorable characters we have and the new little oddball!”
New poster: “Look at all these properties we own!”
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Old: “Meet the newest addition to our family!”
New: “See all these properties we’re destroying? Guess who’s next!”

I found the footage from last year that I remember seeing something of, and yes, it looks like there was a Stitch prop that they had to have been using.
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This has to be purposeful. Maybe some rogue animator was "quiet protesting" or something.

It’s purposeful somehow. Maybe whoever directed that scene was quiet quitting. Jesus.

 

[Pedophobe]

New poster: “Look at all these properties we own!”

"That are being actively destroyed!“

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

It astounds that for decades Disney keeps trying to find a way to have that male audience, figure out to just buy Marvel Comics and then Star Wars/Indiana Jones and then instead of cultivating their new boy audiences, the proceeds to just turn the properties into Girl Power Action Heroine factories.

That's easily explained. The c suite didn't realize what was going on. Bob iger doesn't watch his own movies or get feedback from outside sources. To him star wars is still as big as it was in 1977. It's why Kennedy has been able to stick around so long and he thought he wouldn't even need to market a star wars land. Just tweet "it's open" and people would flood in

They trusted that the people below them wouldnt destroy their properties, just like what happened over at Star Trek or halo or even bud light.

Not realizing what went on before it's too late. It reminds me of an old job I had, I desperately asked for feedback from my boss every week. They told me to fuck off for months because I thought I was fucking up. I was so angry at my boss and the company that when I did end up fucking up on a massive level I waited for that stupid fuck to contact me knowing he'd be pissed. I didn't care.

Same thing here, the managers are proudly aloof and by the time they realize the workers are fucking up it's literally too late, no damage control can change things.

Star Trek got a pass for years and it's only very recently that they're trying to turn the ship around.

 

[FMW13]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1jswwou/a_minecraft_movie_at_157m_a_record_opening_for/
Well I guess Iger just entered the discord chat and is autistically screeching about how this dumb Colombian bitch fucked it all up for everyone.

 

[Screamer_2]

Holy fuck that's a massive opening.