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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,087 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,577
FMW13 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1jswwou/a_minecraft_movie_at_157m_a_record_opening_for/
Well I guess Iger just entered the discord chat and is antically screeching about how this dumb Colombian bitch fucked it all up for everyone.
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How? Howww?
It has the most generic movie poster in the world
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Get the rope Macaulay! said:
there's been multiple books on it, John Carter especially. But none of them really get to the meat of the matter, the types of themes disney tries are too niche for their budgets, most young men enjoy anime and gravitated towards it in the 2000s because it was full of action and sexualized women and blood and even the young men not into that were into Jackass or Viva la bam or other high energy stuff and either idea would have no shot of being greenlight by family friendly Disney.

the Sci-fi/fantasy stuff does have an audience in young men, its just very niche, which is why the hellboy films are completely different from the comics which are more similar to Atlantis, same thing with Tron:Legacy and John Carter, that type of bland content has an audience, but its very small to the point where even Sci-fi channel had tv movies and mini-series that didn't break even catering to them.

the protagonist of Tron:Legacy is as bland as a disney princess, but because men don't identify with characters the way girls do, plotting the films or characters in the same way would never work.
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It does seem like Disney feels the need to tone down or remove some elements of boys entertainment to try to get a viable market from the boys market. The real selling point of Tron: Legacy was honestly the special effects and Daft Punk, being a high schooler at the time of Legacy's release.

John Carter is more in line with this because after watching the movie (in 3D, which was a poor choice as it was pretty ineffective), I read A Princess of Mars and once you see John on Mars, you're met with topless women and other stuff Disney wouldn't dare to show.
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
and once you see John on Mars, you're met with topless women and other stuff Disney wouldn't dare to show.
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beyond that are the pacing issues because its adapted from a serial, i think every 8 minutes he's knocked out and magically teleported to the next set piece, they give the princess way more screentime and make her more of a badass. This should have been Conan the barbarian levels of awesome, but its just shit. don't they have like 5 intros one after the other at the start of the film because the script is that dogshit?

If they didn't go all out on the CGI and just had the aliens be humans in stupid make up and the women as naked as they could get away with in a pg13 movie and had John behave less like Bella Swan with a penis than it would have been better.

he's a cowboy for fucks sake, a southern pride man who fled to the wild west. He should be acting like Danny Mcbride, that would really have made people go "i need to see this fucking film"

like the reason deadpool or GOTG or Iron man went from "who?" to "i need to be there opening night!" is because the trailers and promotion showed off some personality.

And don't get me started on those faggy nerds going "mah name" as if John Wick didn't come out like a year later. But it did fucking amazing, why? because of 1. star power and 2. the plot showing off what the fuck it was about. You were going to see Keanu back in action. "people are asking if i'm back, yeah i'm back" fuck yes. before you saw the trailer you didn't give a fuck about who john wick was, afterwards you knew he was the biggest badass on the block and he's back to kick ass and get some vengeance.

Its the same reason "cowboys vs aliens" failed, they thought they could win on premise alone. You needed premise and style. there's a reason Daniel Craig is beloved as his more eccentric characters and that film flopped, its because he played a plank of wood, a bunch of archtypes of westerns in a film when the reason westerns were able to be so profitable is because you could make them porno levels of cheap so people didn't care if the stories or characters were awful. You could ask any old man watching westerns what the plot of the episode they just saw was, they can't fucking tell you.

the man with no name became a smash hit beyond the usual stuff because it was made so fucking cheaply with an oddly big star that it couldn't help but be a hit, a bit similar to John Wick in that regard. meanwhile no one knows either lead of John Carter and the trailers themselves don't do much to inspire confidence in the product.
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
It does seem like Disney feels the need to tone down or remove some elements of boys entertainment to try to get a viable market from the boys market. The real selling point of Tron: Legacy was honestly the special effects and Daft Punk, being a high schooler at the time of Legacy's release.

John Carter is more in line with this because after watching the movie (in 3D, which was a poor choice as it was pretty ineffective), I read A Princess of Mars and once you see John on Mars, you're met with topless women and other stuff Disney wouldn't dare to show.
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might have been Asylum, but there was a low-ish budget version of Princess done around the same time as John Carter Of No Particular Planet that featured a has-been porn gal as Dejah
and she kept her clothes on the whole time

it's handed another easy lay-up and instead falls over and somehow gets the ball shoved up its own ass in the set-up for the movie
John Carter is an American soldier out in Irakastan. So the natural tweak is "instead of 'exsoldier chased into cave by injuns, poofs to barsoom' it's 'current soldier chased into cave by islams, poof to barsoom' "
right?
nooooooooooooo we need a secret military project to somethingsomething
 
The last time I ever really thought about Tron was when I did a playthrough of Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, and I still thought it looked very uncanny there. The chick was sexy though, I'll give them that, Riku should have cucked the guy character.
 
Gotta say: I'm not a fan of Moana 2.

Baby Sword loves it (because 3, so of course), but the songs suck and the story is lame. Having to save the ocean from having the life drained out of it completely vs wanting to find people on other islands... yeesh.

I  did like how they brought back the coconut pirate bros (by far the coolest parts of the first one) and I liked how they straight-up called out people for calling Moana a princess (because she isn't).

One thing that autisticly bugged me is how on their homogeneous island they managed to have one or two characters with accents, which is totally retarded.

All in all it's not a terrible movie, but it's a terrible sequel.
 
Crescent Fresh said:
MEMES.

It’s become effectively a Rocky Horror for teenagers, they’re flooding theaters to yell at the movie when certain lines are said, it’s inexplicably becoming this giant TikTok thing.
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Me and my younger sister went to see it yesterday and the theater was filled with people younger than her and older than me literally screaming out quotes, throwing popcorn, throwing phones, and even beefing with each other over supposedly stolen shit.
 
AnsemSoD1 said:
I will admit, the Your Welcome song is catchy.
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That's from the 1st one. The movie and songs from that are great.

The sequel though used a different composer for the songs, and the story is just meh.

There were 8 years between the original and the sequel and it still somehow manages to feel rushed.
 
NOT Sword Fighter Super said:
That's from the 1st one. The movie and songs from that are great.

The sequel though used a different composer for the songs, and the story is just meh.

There were 8 years between the original and the sequel and it still somehow manages to feel rushed.
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For all the shit we give Lin Manuel Miranda, he did know how to compose shit, or at least he used to...
 
NOT Sword Fighter Super said:
That's from the 1st one. The movie and songs from that are great.

The sequel though used a different composer for the songs, and the story is just meh.

There were 8 years between the original and the sequel and it still somehow manages to feel rushed.
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There is a reason for it. Moana 2 was supposed to be a series for Disney+ but later got changed into a theatrical movie so they had hurry to change everything around that.
 
The success of A Minecraft movies shows there's people desperate to take their kids out to see slop and just how damaged the Disney brand is. That entire audience would have been there for Disney with out recent dumb choices. It's why garbage like the Aladdin live action made a billion.

From what I have gathered the film isn't good, but younger kids like it and parents don't want to kill themselves watching it. I haven't heard of there being any "the message" shit in it.

I liked John Carter and hope it gets a new adaption. For a film where it's name is considered a reason for why it flopped. "Who the fuck is John Carter?" We now live in an era where the actual name, A Princess of Mars. Would be considered a title with baggage that'd flop because of girl boss overload in recent years.
 
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