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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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Sinner's Sandwich said:
Japan Disney is special. They have Twisted Wonderland (where the Queen of hearts boy is from) and even extra Characters that only exist in Tokyo Disneyland.

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These characters are Henchmen working for the Villains in Tokyo Disneyland.

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I know it's stupid but Japan giving Frollo a waifu female underling made me chuckle a little
 
Jhonson the Two said:
I know it's stupid but Japan giving Frollo a waifu female underling made me chuckle a little
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Why do they need to add on lore, especially when it flies in the face of the film's story?

Incidentally, I've been thinking about Inside Out and its sequel as of late, and I can't help but question some of the emotion choices in the second movie. Why does Ennui need to be a thing, couldn't that have just been downtime at the office? Anxiety could have been merged with Fear. I'm also surprised there's no Love emotion; that would make sense, given crushes during a person's teenage years (or maybe having that emotion in the first movie to begin with to represent familial love and attachments??) - I'm also wondering why Hope isn't a thing, either.

Incidentally, I remember when people were saying the first one was a ripoff of Osmosis Jones solely because there's the command center in the brain. Meanwhile, Inside Out isn't a buddy cop movie.
 
Candlelight Desolation said:
Incidentally, I remember when people were saying the first one was a ripoff of Osmosis Jones solely because there's the command center in the brain. Meanwhile, Inside Out isn't a buddy cop movie.
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Nostalgia Critic saying similarities like the little people in your head seeing out of your eyes (also known as the things we use to see) can't be coincidences was really something.

The director actually worked on one of the things it got compared to (Cranium Command, an old show at Epcot), so if if anything that's the winner of the "What did Inside Out copy?" contest, which everyone insisted on having as if only one work was allowed to use that concept.
 
Scientifically Inaccurate said:
Nostalgia Critic saying similarities like the little people in your head seeing out of your eyes (also known as the things we use to see) can't be coincidences was really something.

The director actually worked on one of the things it got compared to (Cranium Command, an old show at Epcot), so if if anything that's the winner of the "What did Inside Out copy?" contest, which everyone insisted on having as if only one work was allowed to use that concept.
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Not to mention Disney made this decades earlier...
 
Alright im gonna take a huff of cope.

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I'm here to pose the theory that in the grand scheme of things Tron ares isn't a major failure and may even lead into a lower budget animated sequel. The overlooked factor is in the theme park. Specifically the Tron light cycle ride.
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If grok is to be believed, this ride in conjunction with the merch roughly earns close to a billion a year. They added a bunch of stuff to promote Ares and that is estimated to make 10 to 20 percent more profit as a result.

Here's my question, if the ride covers the cost and even justify's the long term investment will Disney pay attention and low key continue the franchise? The big thing everyone talks about on X is the idea of an animated sequel, which isn't that far fetched considering spiderverse and its animation style was a based off the main concept artist for Tron uprising, Alberto Mielgo.

The box office after China apparently raised ares from 70 million to 103 million so if the math checks out it'll earn roughly the same as legacy by the end of its run. Grok says it was funded primarily by Disney but there's a lot of talk that Leto secured funding.

Am I delusional for thinking disney might take another stab at it?
 
I asked Grok how much Tron earns disney a year and it said $60-120 million. Mainly theme parks and merch.

These days plenty of films underperform at the box office, but then everyone ends up seeing them once they go on streaming. I have no idea how the economics of that factor in, especially for a company like Disney that owns the film and its own streaming platform.

How many $200 million films appear on streaming, get viewers and then forgotten by everyone are released every year? Surely a film that also made $100 million at the box office before streaming has to come out as a bigger success. Especially when it is part of a known franchise that will not be forgotten any time soon.

I'd be shocked if they hadn't already factored this hybrid model into evaluating a films success. Release Tron: Ares. They also released a remastered Tron and Tron: Legacy in 4K in physical media. They'll go onto streaming. There'll be an increased return of viewers on streaming for the original films around the new film coming out. There's an economic machine around Tron that the box office for the new film doesn't really tell us much about.
 
Michael Wade said:
Alright im gonna take a huff of cope.

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I'm here to pose the theory that in the grand scheme of things Tron ares isn't a major failure and may even lead into a lower budget animated sequel. The overlooked factor is in the theme park. Specifically the Tron light cycle ride.
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If grok is to be believed, this ride in conjunction with the merch roughly earns close to a billion a year. They added a bunch of stuff to promote Ares and that is estimated to make 10 to 20 percent more profit as a result.

Here's my question, if the ride covers the cost and even justify's the long term investment will Disney pay attention and low key continue the franchise? The big thing everyone talks about on X is the idea of an animated sequel, which isn't that far fetched considering spiderverse and its animation style was a based off the main concept artist for Tron uprising, Alberto Mielgo.

The box office after China apparently raised ares from 70 million to 103 million so if the math checks out it'll earn roughly the same as legacy by the end of its run. Grok says it was funded primarily by Disney but there's a lot of talk that Leto secured funding.

Am I delusional for thinking disney might take another stab at it?
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Tron is dead. People will wonder why Disney built the ride in years to come. The ride is based off Tron:Legacy with the Daft Punk soundtrack and references to the movie in it. The Ares part was making the lights red and playing NiN instead of Daft Punk. A strict downgrade.

It also doesnt make a billion dollars a year and its questionable if the ride has made its money back yet with how over budget it went. Construction interfered with other rides at the park and got interrupted by covid. Its the source of "Universal built a whole park in the time it took Disney to build 1 ride" meme.

Pretty much nobody buys the Tron merch at magic kingdom that i can see and I have never once seen anyone use the custom Tron action finger merch gimmick they set up. It does sell alot of lightning lanes for Disney at least.

The ride is strictly "ok". Its designed to give kids a super fast roller coaster that is accessible as possible. (Unless you are fat its the least fat friendly ride at Disney) Its also short as fuck 60 seconds in and out. You wont be happy you spent 20 on a lightning lane.
 
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I want to point out, disney apparently now wants to appeal to the "boys", but its pretty weird that even with all the remakes and remasters and third wall breaks and meta references and whatever, they still refuse to acknowledge either atlantis or treasure planet's existence.

Its kind of a good thing I mean, since it means these two are safe from being molested by disney's slop machine, but its still weird.
 
I wanted to like Tron more than I did, but the first movie didn't really make any sense. Once you got past its retarded "programs are sentient versions of the humans who made them" premise, you could just enjoy the movie as an Isekai adventure where the hero helps free an oppressed land from a big villain. The original arcade video game rocked ass, too.

Its kind of a good thing I mean, since it means these two are safe from being molested by disney's slop machine, but its still weird.
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Ditto Disney's The Black Hole, which did so poorly, they might as well have thrown the movie into a black hole. I do think if the movie didn't have that stupid scene where the heroes were running in front of that flaming boulder, and didn't ignore the fact that people have to breathe in space, it would have done a lot better. I liked it. I even liked the ending, which at least strove to do something different.
 
Who else besides the Japanese would do an Initial D/Mickey Mouse Club crossover?

 
Oilspill Battery said:
I want to point out, disney apparently now wants to appeal to the "boys", but its pretty weird that even with all the remakes and remasters and third wall breaks and meta references and whatever, they still refuse to acknowledge either atlantis or treasure planet's existence.

Its kind of a good thing I mean, since it means these two are safe from being molested by disney's slop machine, but its still weird.
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The remakes exist solely to be easy money by just doing something that already made money a second time with a gimmick: those didn't make money the first time and still don't make money, so Disney isn't going to pour money into them.

Nowadays Disney's combing through previous successes that slipped through the cracks and descending upon them like locusts (I never thought I could be sick of A Goofy Movie but Disney managed to pull it off). So if they're not rolling out the constant new merchandise lines for those it's safe to assume they have reason to believe their fandoms haven't grown enough to be worthwhile.

And I agree it's for the best.

They did include them in the multiple 100th anniversary self-congratulatory masturbation sessions they had, so it's not like they're intentionally shunning them.
 
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Oilspill Battery said:
I want to point out, disney apparently now wants to appeal to the "boys", but its pretty weird that even with all the remakes and remasters and third wall breaks and meta references and whatever, they still refuse to acknowledge either atlantis or treasure planet's existence.

Its kind of a good thing I mean, since it means these two are safe from being molested by disney's slop machine, but its still weird.
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I recently rewatched Atlantis, and man, it still holds up. You can tell where executive meddling fucked with it (the pacing is lightning fast and there's barely any room to breathe before they reach Atlantis, where you get a bit of a breather before the pace ramps up again for the finale), but there's so much wonderful stuff in there to enjoy still. The art is beautiful with visually striking designs, and they did great blending 2D and 3D animation; I really miss that era of animation where 3D was used to help supplement 2D visuals. Voice acting is stellar across the board, a bunch of fun characters and humor, and while the plot is pretty simple, it manages a unique twist on the Atlantis myth that really makes it stand out.

It's a shame that it didn't do as well as it deserved to, but like you said, on the bright side, it's unlikely the Rat will ever dredge up its corpse to ruin it with a live action remake. I intend on a Treasure Planet rewatch to see how that lives up to my memories of it as well.
 
I've mentioned before that I live in Nipland and I've taken visitors to DisneySea a couple times now. One of those friends is returning in December and she's really excited to go back to DisneySea, saying it's an absolute must. Mind you, she didn't even care about any Disney park very much before we went. It's the most excited about Disney I've seen someone in a long, long time. Makes me wonder if the US parks are going to be forever ruined for me because the international parks are just knocking it out of the park so hard.
 
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