Do you hate anime? - What’s your reasons for disliking it? Can you elaborate?

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biozeminadae1 said:
The sheer volume of content produced in the medium is so large, it's not accurate to claim all of it's shit or that it's contributed to degenerate behavior. Like American media, the good stuff was made in the previous century, and the rest is of varying quality.

Also, if you don't like Akira, you're a faggot. And I don't fucking buy that bullshit that it's boring, boring my arse, there isn't a scene in the film that doesn't have stuff happening. Even simple things like guys just walking in a wide shot is interesting to look at in that film. Fuck off.
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There is literally an entire category of anime dedicated to borderline paedophilia. I call bullshit.

I don’t care for Akira. I watched it and it did not absorb me as everyone said it should.
 
Used to like it when I was younger because I thought the art was cool and some concepts were neat, not to mention Japanese comedy is less filtered than their western counterparts. I’ve more or less grown out of it because the hyperbolic personalities of the main characters have worn on me. Not to mention most of it is geared towards tweens with short attention spans. I’m willing to give something with actual character growth or decent pacing a try.

I’ve also witnessed the anime to greasy troon pipeline, and that just makes it worse.
 
biozeminadae1 said:
That's not mainstream anime.
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The fact that it’s literally gotten a well known label of ‘shotacon’ says otherwise.

Also I can literally point to many ‘above board’ anime that depict a vulnerable girl (or a small flat chested 3000 year old dragon-gorl-no-really-she-totally-is) in compromising positions that the main character always ends up getting mixed up in.

Pretty much every one of those animes that gather harems also follows this pattern.
 
Zebedee said:
The fact that it’s literally gotten a well known label of ‘shotacon’ says otherwise.

Also I can literally point to many ‘above board’ anime that depict a vulnerable girl (or a small flat chested 3000 year old dragon-gorl-no-really-she-totally-is) in compromising positions that the main character always ends up getting mixed up in.

Pretty much every one of those animes that gather harems also follows this pattern.
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No, it doesn't. The content of that genre being known doesn't mean it's widely accepted or consumed by anime watchers, if anything, it's well-known for its infamy than anything else.

Usually, in harem anime, the most vulnerable character is the male protagonist, not any of the girls.
 
biozeminadae1 said:
No, it doesn't. The content of that genre being known doesn't mean it's widely accepted or consumed by anime watchers, if anything, it's well-known for its infamy than anything else.

Usually, in harem anime, the most vulnerable character is the male protagonist, not any of the girls.
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If it isn’t accepted by the community, then why hasn’t there been a more concerted effort to remove that garbage from the sites that host it? Why haven’t people pressured the ones who animate it to stop?

There’s literally no significant group (if any) I know of in anime communities that actively tries to get rid of it, so by default they do accept it’s existence. The infamy from what I have seen, is more viewed as an joke and at worst an accepted fact when it just shouldn’t be.

Also it took me a moment to find the right genre, but Isekai is a perfect example then, it’s the same shit as a harem just packaged in a power fantasy. It’s apparently all the rage these days.
 
Anime can be ok but Japanese humor is so fucking bad. The pinnacle of comedy to them is some small character making a stupid face and some high pitched noises.

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Why aren't you laughing? The character has pulled the funnee face! This is peak humor, there are no other jokes.

The way it is written is also makes people more succeptable to troonism. Most of the shows centred around casts of young girls are aimed at young men rather than women, hence men start getting a fucked idea of what being a woman is like. Japan if fucking wierd man.
 
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Zebedee said:
If it isn’t accepted by the community, then why hasn’t there been a more concerted effort to remove that garbage from the sites that host it? Why haven’t people pressured the ones who animate it to stop?

There’s literally no significant group (if any) I know of in anime communities that actively tries to get rid of it, so by default they do accept it’s existence. The infamy from what I have seen, is more viewed as an joke and at worst an accepted fact when it just shouldn’t be.

Also it took me a moment to find the right genre, but Isekai is a perfect example then, it’s the same shit as a harem just packaged in a power fantasy. It’s apparently all the rage these days.
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Because the media is accepted as viable the Japanese state, regardless of that, you don't see a whopping rate of pedophilia in Japan, now do you? Also, as unfortunate as it may sound, the fact that there's no movement around stopping the publication of these anime and manga is probably due to the fact it concerns boys.

And there's a huge misandrist double-standard in Japan (and other places in the World, really) when it comes to depicting men in media, especially in submissive sexual roles.

I've never seen an Isekai, but if it's just a power fantasy, I don't understand what the problem is. What's degenerate about it?

get_ur_gamon said:
The way it is written is also makes people more succeptable to troonism. Most of the shows centred around casts of young girls are aimed at young men rather than women, hence men start getting a fucked idea of what being a woman is like. Japan if fucking wierd man.
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That doesn't prove anything. Where are all the troons in Japan, then? It's a domestic medium, primarily aimed at Japanese people. There's anime about men turning into women, Ranma 1/2 being one of the most famous examples, and it's from the 90s. Where are the transgenders? Why aren't they as prominent?
 
biozeminadae1 said:
Because the media is accepted as viable the Japanese state, regardless of that, you don't see a whopping rate of pedophilia in Japan, now do you?
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I literally just looked up ‘Japan Paedophilia’ and it comes up with a goldmine. Here’s a lovely one from someone who lives there.

“I was born and raised in Japan and this is something that Japan must address.

It's not overt rape that is the issue in Japan (of course rape does occur - as it does in any nation). The issue Japan has is a voyeuristic, creepy fetishistic approach.

I mean the over sexualisation of children in manga and anime, young "idol groups" of 10 to 13 year old girls who sing and dance in skimpy clothing for their fans - middle aged men.

There are cafes where men can pay to flirt with young girls of 12 to 14 and in the more unsavoury of such establishments they are infact child brothels.

Japan has a serious child welfare problem and a low adoption rate, so many child runaways end up working for organised crime in such unsavoury venues.

There are also genres of pornography in Japan that would be 100% illegal in Western nations including lolicon - sexualised cartoons of 5 to 8 year old girls. Chakoero - immature looking 18 to 20 year olds made to look like children.

Amd of course up until the late 00s, hardcore child pornography was legal in Japan.

So yes, Japan has a major cultural issue with this.”

Something to chew on, eh? The cafe’s in question are called JK cafes apparently. It also fails to adequately explain why the rest of the world hasn’t taken a hard line against it.


biozeminadae1 said:
Also, as unfortunate as it may sound, the fact that there's no movement around stopping the publication of these anime and manga is probably due to the fact it concerns boys.
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Yeah, unless you have some other point I’m failing to see then I take it those boys are probably paedophiles.

biozeminadae1 said:
And there's a huge misandrist double-standard in Japan (and other places in the World, really) when it comes to depicting men in media, especially in submissive sexual roles.

I've never seen an Isekai, but if it's just a power fantasy, I don't understand what the problem is. What's degenerate about it?
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I don’t have an answer for the Misandry, but that’s primarily because I’m struggling to find your source material. What exactly does this have to do with shotacon animation however?

Also the power fantasy Isekai features harems, many of those harems feature lolis. Not sure why that connection was so hard to make.
 
I'm mostly indifferent to the actual cartoons- Like any media, some is OK, some is cancer (although, anime is more cancer-heavy than most media; Apart from straight-up CP, I don't know of any other commercial medium that has a whole, out-in-the-open sub-genre depicting adults banging children, or brothers banging their sisters).

But it's the fandom that's dogshit, and causes the "hate". The fact people treat watching anime as if it's a substitute for having a personality, in a way you don't get for any other genre/medium. The fact that weebs are 90% adult men, who fixate on shows made for 13yo Japanese girls. The way they think that makes them quirky and special (rather than sad and embarrassing). The fact that 99% of weebs will actively defend the pedos in their midst, to the point of giving pedophilia the cutesy euphemism of "Lolicon". The fact that I've never seen a single weeb raising concerns over the fact that they have actual, underage children in the same fandom where comics/videos/drawings depicting adults having sex with children are openly sold at every convention, or about the fact these CP videos are listed on non-age restricted websites frequented by kids like MAL, alongside Pokemon, Sailor Moon, and One Piece listings. (at best, I've seen a tiny minority of the fandom reluctantly admit that they don't really like this stuff, but only ever in response to some OUTSIDER raising the issue; But most will actively defend it, and even those who say they don't like it, will happily just ignore the CP/pedo problem all around them, as long as no-one else brings it up).

Anime fandom has the exact same issue with pedophilia, that furries have with dog-fucking; Even those members of the fandom who aren't active degenerates themselves, never want to raise such an awkward, fucked-up issue in their super-fun, super-cute hobby, so they just stay quiet, and a few years down the track, you've created a total haven for dog-fuckers/pedos, with the established norm of everyone just accepting the degeneracy, and denying the issue to outsiders (and to themselves).

And also in common with furries, the fandom is just a natural magnet for autistic loners, cringe behaviour, sexual degenerates, and deeply unattractive people with no self-awareness, thinking they're being all "cute" and "fun" and "quirky", when really they're just being embarrassing, annoying, and/or disgusting. A bunch of cutesy gifs, or memes about "head-pats" or "lewding the loli", or weird, cat-face emoticons, don't make a bunch of obese 37yo men suddenly seem cute and kawaii- It just makes a bunch of obese 37yo men acting retarded, larping as 12yo Jap girls (There's a reason why Chris made it onto the thumbnail of the Filthy Frank 'Weeaboos" song; He really is the living incarnation of the Western anime fan)

If you want to watch anime, go for it. No-one cares. Same as no-one cares if you're into horror movies, or rap music, or french literature. But it's the way that weebs tend to act like anime is THE defining aspect of their personality, or like it has some fundamental, pseudo-religious importance to them, and is some core part of their identity, that's why people "hate anime". It's not the shows that are the issue (with the exception of the "Loli hentai"/CP stuff); it's people's ATTITUDE towards the shows, and bizarre, emotional over-investment, that causes the "hate". If you treat it the same way as any other movie/tv show/whatever (ie watch what you want, and STFU about it), then no-one will have a problem
 
Snuckening said:
I'm mostly indifferent to the actual cartoons- Like any media, some is OK, some is cancer (although, anime is more cancer-heavy than most media; Apart from straight-up CP, I don't know of any other commercial medium that has a whole, out-in-the-open sub-genre depicting adults banging children, or brothers banging their sisters).

But it's the fandom that's dogshit, and causes the "hate". The fact people treat watching anime as if it's a substitute for having a personality, in a way you don't get for any other genre/medium. The fact that weebs are 90% adult men, who fixate on shows made for 13yo Japanese girls. The way they think that makes them quirky and special (rather than sad and embarrassing). The fact that 99% of weebs will actively defend the pedos in their midst, to the point of giving pedophilia the cutesy euphemism of "Lolicon". The fact that I've never seen a single weeb raising concerns over the fact that they have actual, underage children in the same fandom where comics/videos/drawings depicting adults having sex with children are openly sold at every convention, or about the fact these CP videos are listed on non-age restricted websites frequented by kids like MAL, alongside Pokemon, Sailor Moon, and One Piece listings. (at best, I've seen a tiny minority of the fandom reluctantly admit that they don't really like this stuff, but only ever in response to some OUTSIDER raising the issue; But most will actively defend it, and even those who say they don't like it, will happily just ignore the CP/pedo problem all around them, as long as no-one else brings it up).

Anime fandom has the exact same issue with pedophilia, that furries have with dog-fucking; Even those members of the fandom who aren't active degenerates themselves, never want to raise such an awkward, fucked-up issue in their super-fun, super-cute hobby, so they just stay quiet, and a few years down the track, you've created a total haven for dog-fuckers/pedos, with the established norm of everyone just accepting the degeneracy, and denying the issue to outsiders (and to themselves).

And also in common with furries, the fandom is just a natural magnet for autistic loners, cringe behaviour, sexual degenerates, and deeply unattractive people with no self-awareness, thinking they're being all "cute" and "fun" and "quirky", when really they're just being embarrassing, annoying, and/or disgusting. A bunch of cutesy gifs, or memes about "head-pats" or "lewding the loli", or weird, cat-face emoticons, don't make a bunch of obese 37yo men suddenly seem cute and kawaii- It just makes a bunch of obese 37yo men acting retarded, larping as 12yo Jap girls (There's a reason why Chris made it onto the thumbnail of the Filthy Frank 'Weeaboos" song; He really is the living incarnation of the Western anime fan)

If you want to watch anime, go for it. No-one cares. Same as no-one cares if you're into horror movies, or rap music, or french literature. But it's the way that weebs tend to act like anime is THE defining aspect of their personality, or like it has some fundamental, pseudo-religious importance to them, and is some core part of their identity, that's why people "hate anime". It's not the shows that are the issue (with the exception of the "Loli hentai"/CP stuff); it's people's ATTITUDE towards the shows, and bizarre, emotional over-investment, that causes the "hate". If you treat it the same way as any other movie/tv show/whatever (ie watch what you want, and STFU about it), then no-one will have a problem
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Thanks for articulating the point more clearly, it’s the behaviour and apathy of the anime fans that’s the biggest problem. They act and pretend like it’s not there, going as far as to say that it’s a small minority… Until they open an incognito tag.
 
Zebedee said:
I literally just looked up ‘Japan Paedophilia’ and it comes up with a goldmine. Here’s a lovely one from someone who lives there.

“I was born and raised in Japan and this is something that Japan must address.

It's not overt rape that is the issue in Japan (of course rape does occur - as it does in any nation). The issue Japan has is a voyeuristic, creepy fetishistic approach.

I mean the over sexualisation of children in manga and anime, young "idol groups" of 10 to 13 year old girls who sing and dance in skimpy clothing for their fans - middle aged men.

There are cafes where men can pay to flirt with young girls of 12 to 14 and in the more unsavoury of such establishments they are infact child brothels.

Japan has a serious child welfare problem and a low adoption rate, so many child runaways end up working for organised crime in such unsavoury venues.

There are also genres of pornography in Japan that would be 100% illegal in Western nations including lolicon - sexualised cartoons of 5 to 8 year old girls. Chakoero - immature looking 18 to 20 year olds made to look like children.

Amd of course up until the late 00s, hardcore child pornography was legal in Japan.

So yes, Japan has a major cultural issue with this.”

Something to chew on, eh? The cafe’s in question are called JK cafes apparently. It also fails to adequately explain why the rest of the world hasn’t taken a hard line against it.
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Nice anecdote from someone you didn't bother to link.

Zebedee said:
Yeah, unless you have some other point I’m failing to see then I take it those boys are probably paedophiles.


I don’t have an answer for the Misandry, but that’s primarily because I’m struggling to find your source material. What exactly does this have to do with shotacon animation however?
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Shotacon isn't campaigned against specifically, because the subject of interest are boys in subservient positions. Honestly, I don't understand how it isn't more popular in Western countries, with them being dominated by feminist theory.

Zebedee said:
Also the power fantasy Isekai features harems, many of those harems feature lolis. Not sure why that connection was so hard to make.
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I haven't seen an Isekai in my life, so it's not surprising I couldn't make that connection.
 
biozeminadae1 said:
Nice anecdote from someone you didn't bother to link.



Shotacon isn't campaigned against specifically, because the subject of interest are boys in subservient positions. Honestly, I don't understand how it isn't more popular in Western countries, with them being dominated by feminist theory.



I haven't seen an Isekai in my life, so it's not surprising I couldn't make that connection.
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Dude just type in ‘Japan paedophilia’ and you’ll find in minutes. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-pedophilia-common-in-Japan

lolicon is also just as, if not more prevalent, and still barely gets attention. (I also noticed that shota specifically involves males. I thought it meant paedophilia in general since I’m a retard)

As for the power fantasy, its literally in the title. Having anyone you want sexually is part and parcel of that schtick.
 
Meat Target said:
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That's why I decided to do it. It only turns me on more whenever I see people bitching about anime avatars.
 
Zebedee said:
Dude just type in ‘Japan paedophilia’ and you’ll find in minutes. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-pedophilia-common-in-Japan
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There are some disturbing images posted by the users, but they all seem to be of girls of pubescent age.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-pedophilia-common-in-Japan
Zebedee said:
lolicon is also just as, if not more prevalent, and still barely gets attention. (I also noticed that shota specifically involves males. I thought it meant paedophilia in general since I’m a retard)
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You might be right.

Zebedee said:
As for the power fantasy, its literally in the title. Having anyone you want sexually is part and parcel of that schtick.
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You're right about that, but I thought that pertained to girls of high-school age to 20-something year olds. Do Isekais do what Hokuto no Ken did, with Lin falling in love with Kenshiro as a child and becomes his love interest as a young woman?
 
biozeminadae1 said:
There are some disturbing images posted by the users, but they all seem to be of girls of pubescent age.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-pedophilia-common-in-Japan

You might be right.


You're right about that, but I thought that pertained to girls of high-school age to 20-something year olds. Do Isekais do what Hokuto no Ken did, with Lin falling in love with Kenshiro as a child and becomes his love interest as a young woman?
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Alright, well in this article it mentions a child in a photo shoot that was about 6. Yet somehow this shit is completely above board. (Yeah it’s the BBC, neg rate me, sometimes they actually do good reporting once in a blue moon though) https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa

As for the pubescent aged girls in the cafes, that’s still real dodgy territory.


Also I don’t know what you’re talking about, but the kids in question can vary though, some are like… Dragon girls that are millennia old yet look as though they would fit right in at a kindergarten class. Some of the worst ones are just outright kids with a crush on the main character, and the author uses it as a ‘will they won’t they’ crutch, or shoehorns in their weird brand of sexual humour.

Edit: I’m going to bed, I’m making sloppy errors and I’m slowing down.
 
I used to be into anime. These days though, there's very few I like.

Basically my problem is I got to a point where I realized most anime were just the same ten or so shows remade over and over. Like once you've seen Dragonball Z you no longer need to watch anything else because all other "superpowered martial arts" shows are just that but with some names changed and a different flavor.

I also hate how anime characters are often fucking retarded, like a lot of times their situations could be solved in five minutes, but they always do the absolute dumbest/bullheaded thing and then are surprised they're not making progress.
 
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