Do you think the left will assassinate Trump if they have to?

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

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"fair and square" lol

Denial of election fraud in America is kinda delusional. There's plenty of examples of overt election fraud, and even more really suspicious things going on with every single election. Has for years long before Trump and will likely go on long after.
A better discussion is rather to what extent it impacts an election more than a blanket denial or acceptance thereof.
Certainly it makes for a better posts. Lets take this example, and assume she wasn't just doing her community a good service by delivering their votes for them (herself and her neighbours) then we can discuss things like how many votes, would it make a difference in her particular area or was her area pretty blue to begin with, etc. etc.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

We’re on the third page and it’s clear that everyone else has forgotten that they tried that back in 2016 when he was rallying in Las Vegas

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Denial of election fraud in America is kinda delusional. There's plenty of examples of overt election fraud, and even more really suspicious things going on with every single election. Has for years long before Trump and will likely go on long after.
A better discussion is rather to what extent it impacts an election more than a blanket denial or acceptance thereof.
Certainly it makes for a better posts. Lets take this example, and assume she wasn't just doing her community a good service by delivering their votes for them (herself and her neighbours) then we can discuss things like how many votes, would it make a difference in her particular area or was her area pretty blue to begin with, etc. etc.

I think at this point between the BLM riots, the fraud (even if the fraud was unnecessary to get biden in btw), and how biden has weaponized the DOJ and FBI and DHS against the american citizenry we're past the point of polite voting on the federal level. If trump wins, all his detractors will claim fraud like they did in 2016. If trump loses, all his supporters will consider it another 2020 which they already consider stolen. I just don't see a scenario where there's an orderly transfer of power that everyone agrees on, we're too fractured as a society at this point. I think if they wanted to avoid this they should have had Biden's presidency actually be a reconciliation instead of attempting at going full stasi on the perceived opposition.

that said personally I'm not bothered either way, regardless of what happens I think the federal government is largely impotent at this point. They couldn't even gulag a few pro-lifers or angry parents at school boad meetings like they wanted to. Even if Biden gets a True and Honest victory in 2024 it will be pyrrhic at best. Hell I think 2020 was pyrrhic at best considering how the last few years have gone.

 

[Product Placement]

You say the left like it was all big group, lead by secret heads which is just retarded. Not everyone who doesn't share your beliefs is part of some big conspiracy.

Mean with any political finger always a risk of some nut job from a different political spectrum trying to kill someone. But Trump has had attempts on his life, and I don't expect that to change if he wins or doesn't win the next election but it will always be small groups of losers or lone nutcases rather than a wider conspiracy..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Donald_Trump

And here is a list for Obama, just to show it isn't just a Trump thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama

Do want to say if Trump was assassinated, all shit would break loose like never before, because of people who think like the OP would never believe it was the act of one person but that of a wider conspiracy against Trump. Truth is no benefit for anyone to assassinate Trump unless they would benefit from the fall out it would cause. like a terrorist group.

 

[MadStan]

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"fair and square" lol

Yup. You just keep living in that fantasy land of yours.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Yup. You just keep living in that fantasy land of yours.

yeah I know CNN raw footage is fantasy land

 

[Not A Bunny]

Why would they do that?

Frankly, Trump is better for them alive so they can keep him in "boogeyman" status.

"Here's this bad guy doing bad things with his cult of braindead followers. Oh, what's that? No, don't look in OUR closet. Nothing to see there. Orange Man BAAAAAAD!!!"

 

[MadStan]

yeah I know CNN raw footage is fantasy land

I don’t watch CNN. I read lawsuits.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

I don’t watch CNN. I read lawsuits.

oh ok you win, I'm being a dickhead and obstinately needling you on the fraud stuff. Personally think there was a lot of fuckery in the 2020 election, and I don't mean fraud but just how much of a mess the process was due to the changes brought with the excuse of covid. I don't expect a similar clown show in 2024 because I don't think covid nonsense can be pulled again and I suspect there will be a lot more eyes on things to keep it all on the up-and-up.

In truth while I was disappointed the time, looking back trump deserved taking the L in 2020 on the basis of his legal team being a clown troupe of fuck ups. Lets say that there was actually enough fraud that flipped the presidency to biden, if it was the case trump should have been much better prepared to deal with it both before and after the election and he couldn't measure up. He was unable to make the case in courts and as such there was no fraud. Even if there was fraud, there was no fraud.

Likewise for 2024 I do agree whoever wins wins fair and no one should cry after. I do mean it in a more cynical way in that both sides had 4 years to prepare for the election and if they lose, they lost because they weren't prepared enough, regardless of what the true and honest count ends up being.

While I do find trump amusing I am not as invested in who occupies the position of president as even if biden (or whatever other dem if biden kicks it) wins another 4 years it expect it will just be another 4 years of them failing at whatever it is they try to do. The presidency isn't a dictatorship position so like we've seen in the last few years whoever wins (including trump) will have to deal with pushback and opposition from the other branches and the states. Additionally, this is why I think assassinating trump is a retarded idea, just hamper him like you did for his first term and like republicans did biden in his term so far. Assassinating him just makes it open season and makes a martyr out of him, its the worst thing his opposition could try to do/encourage.

Really since 2016 I've been much more invested in the state and local elections since those have vastly more impact on my life and I don't really believe its as easy to implement fuckery for those compared to the federal ones, as shown by the fierce opposition the current administration faces on the daily.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I hope one of them manages to get Orange Faggot.

He's to retarded to be their enemy, the whole TDS thing is basically aesthetics in 2023

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I don't like how crazy and divisive American politics has gotten in Current Year America.

The 2000 election circus (the Bush vs. Gore Florida voting drama) was tame in comparison.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I’ve said this before, and will say it again. There’s no way some total rando is going to be able to assassinate Trump. If he gets got, it’ll be the Machine that gets him. If They do it, They’ll do it like They did JFK. They’ll set it up so that the patsy is someone from the fringe element of Trump’s own “side”.

There were reporters doing man-on-the-street interviews in NYC on 11/22/63. Folks they interviewed were seething about “redneck republicans” assassinating JFK. All that died down with a quickness when Oswald, the supposed uberleftist, Commie defector, Cuba-defending, Pinko who absolutely had NO ties to the glowies AT ALL was drug before the cameras to take the fall within hours of JFK’s death.

If Trump gets got they’ll have a Q-anon patsy lined up that they’ll end up killing “while taking him into custody”. Afterwards, the Feds will spend years “investigating” the whole thing before issuing a report confirming The Narrative that will have been in place since the moment it was first reported that Trump got got. That Narrative will be that Trump sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind, stoked the hate within his followers hearts and got what he deserved. Hoisted by his own petard. Once you’re operating within that narrative the stories write themselves

 

[Linako 2.0]

The leftists who would want to do it are too much of socially awkward, anxiety ridden retards that they wouldn't dare to do it.
We're not dealing with Weather Underground anymore.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

The leftists who would want to do it are too much of socially awkward, anxiety ridden retards that they wouldn't dare to do it.
We're not dealing with Weather Underground anymore.

counter point: the various troon-led mass shootings in the last few years. For every ten socially awkward ones there's completely unhinged violent trannies that will do even the most unspeakable things if they think its what has to be done.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You say the left like it was all big group, lead by secret heads which is just retarded. Not everyone who doesn't share your beliefs is part of some big conspiracy.

When people say "the left" they mean it interchangeably with the unelected Federal Beaurocracy. Especially since the Obama Years, but this was percolating even during the Reagan Years. Reagans election was in part due to a perception Washington DC's establishment was getting a little too chummy with the Soviets and the Chinese.

Reagan of course missed the forest for the trees. What the Beaurocracy liked about Communism was not the economic model, it was the political model. Where instead of having Congress haul their ass into hearings for dress downs they could instead haul the Congressmen into three later agency rooms and dress Congress down, while a Politburo of unelected Beaurocrats sent Congress the orders on what they needed to vote for that year with the implicit threat of little rooms if they didn't comply.

Hell, in the Soviet Union, the State Prosecutors in their Judicial system were paid more then the Judges, and even officially outranked them. The judges weren't there to make rulings on the law. They were just there to make sure the procedures were followed correctly. The Goal of the trial was to convince the Prosecutor to stop Prosecuting, not to determine guilt or innocence. The judges simply entered the decision of the Prosecutor at the end. We're already almost there as it is in the Federal Judiciary, when you consider how extortionately expensive it is to mount a defense and how extortionate the "plea deals" are.

 

[Linako 2.0]

counter point: the various troon-led mass shootings in the last few years. For every ten socially awkward ones there's completely unhinged violent trannies that will do even the most unspeakable things if they think its what has to be done.

Those troon shooters only target schools because they only want to target the more innocent and weaker that have no immediate form of fighting back.
Drumpf is over 6ft tall, has the secret service and an audience that loves him, they'd get too scared to approach him.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

When people say "the left" they mean it interchangeably with the unelected Federal Beaurocracy. Especially since the Obama Years, but this was percolating even during the Reagan Years. Reagans election was in part due to a perception Washington DC's establishment was getting a little too chummy with the Soviets and the Chinese.

Reagan of course missed the forest for the trees. What the Beaurocracy liked about Communism was not the economic model, it was the political model. Where instead of having Congress haul their ass into hearings for dress downs they could instead haul the Congressmen into three later agency rooms and dress Congress down, while a Politburo of unelected Beaurocrats sent Congress the orders on what they needed to vote for that year with the implicit threat of little rooms if they didn't comply.

Hell, in the Soviet Union, the State Prosecutors in their Judicial system were paid more then the Judges, and even officially outranked them. The judges weren't there to make rulings on the law. They were just there to make sure the procedures were followed correctly. The Goal of the trial was to convince the Prosecutor to stop Prosecuting, not to determine guilt or innocence. The judges simply entered the decision of the Prosecutor at the end. We're already almost there as it is in the Federal Judiciary, when you consider how extortionately expensive it is to mount a defense and how extortionate the "plea deals" are.

I imagine the soviet justice system inspired a lot of cardassian culture in DS9. Not to derail the discussing with some nerding out but it does bring to mind the episode where Miles faced a trial in cardassia, and the solution funny enough was convincing the cardassians to stop prosecuting.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

i doubt it. if anyone would do it i imagine it would be the right actually. trump has managed to fuck things up for many on the right and many of the people who voted for him thinking he would bring actual change were hit with the same thing as always. because of trump the right has started to fracture. so i could see some powerful figure on the right setting it up and then blaming it on some crazy far left retard or whatever.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Powerlevel but I was on a call with my boss the other day and I said that I'd celebrated turkey day with a Trump supporter and she said, unbidden, "I wish he would just die."

I am a politically homeless leftist and don't @ me, but it's interesting to see the double standards with stuff like that.

I hear people on the left say shit like that all the time, and I don't think any of them have made a plan, yaknow? But if I knew that people were making that kind of casual and widespread conversation about someone on "my" team, I would be concerned.

(Dear Null: Nobody is planning anything and this is not cause for the feds to step in. This is just me reporting on what I hear from a bunch of female NorCal Bernie voters who don't own guns.)

 

[AMHOLIO]

OP, are you ok?