Does Barb have a personality disorder?

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The Other Chandler said:
Probably. Her level of hoarding is well beyond any reasonable explanation. Her behavior without Bob being around is also inexplicable. The moment I realized she was as crazy as Chris was when she with full understanding of the situation drove him to confront Snyder and ended up with more serious charges than Chris.

She's also a selfish horrible person. But I don't think that's in the DSM-5.
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I agree with what several others have said about a majority of the things people dislike about Barb being best explained by her simply being selfish, ignorant, and trashy.

You do, however, bring up the one clear indication that she likely does have some form of mental instability: her hoarding. Like, being selfish, ignorant and trashy doesn't explain keeping literal trash in your house to the point it becomes a fire hazard. Obviously, lazy and trashy people often don't bother to keep their living environment clean, but hoarding is some next level shit.
 
Possibly, but outside of a compulsive hoarding problem (which was/is definitely a real issue for her), I don't think we actually know about Barb in enough detail to be able to make the call of any probable personality disorders. Mentally ill people don't have a monopoly on shitty behaviour -- some people are just shits, and you don't need to get the DSM involved. Barb might have a personality disorder, but she's probably just hillbilly white trash.
 
Possibly.
Some people have suggested BPD which is a decent explanation, but I think if we really had a good chance at coming to any real conclusion we'd need to know more about Barb's life. Like, going back into her childhood, family, any predispositions and everything up until now.
Let's face it, about 99% of what we know about Barb is negatively and/or filtered through Chris or Cole, neither being the most reliable narrators for various reasons. I'm not saying Barb is secretly a shining star or even a good person, but we're obviously not getting the full story.
That's why it's a bit impossible to say. Yes, some disorders could have arose something between Chris's start as a lolcow and now or even Chris's birth and now, but if I was diagnosing her for realsies I'd want to know more and have her explain in her own words how she sees things.

However, I do think it's telling that Chris doesn't see any problems. Chris doesn't seem to understand how unpleasant and unstable Barb seems to be. Yea, he complains about how she makes him do minor shit and needs him, but he doesn't see anything wrong with her personality. He doesn't see her hoarding as an issue nor does he recognize her isolation. For most people who are around aging parents, those are red flags. There's a reason people put so much emphasis on socializing the elderly and paying attention to them. What this tells me is that Barb's behavior (illness or not) is so normalized that Chris doesn't notice how genuinely unpleasant and mentally unhealthy Barb is, most likely due to a combination of pure obliviousness on his part and growing up with it and it just getting worse and worse. We all know Chris is pretty useless, but if Chris was a normal fucking person then there could of a been a chance for Barb to get help, because even if she's not clinically unwell, she could use a professional to talk to. Sure, you can't force people into therapy and Barb is probably way to proud and lazy to go, but just having a competent son say 'hey, I've noticed you've been really unhappy these last few years and I want you to be happy again. Would you please consider seeing a therapist?' possibly could have helped and opened the door.

Now, this could all be just Barb always being an unpleasant person, not every asshole has a diagnose and fixable condition. It could totally be that failing as a parent, having no friends or hobbies and walling herself off could have majorly fucked her personality over and now she's just mentally rotting. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some mental illness being an influence. Note how I say influence, not responsible for shitty behavior.

But ultimately, I don't think we'll ever know 100% concretely unless Chris/ Barb tells us (and then I guarantee it will be met with skepticism, possibly rightly so) or have someone leak confidential files from a mental health professional (PROTIP: even if records did exist, don't do that. It's illegal).
 
Dr.Research said:
Like, going back into her childhood, family, any predispositions and everything up until now.
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Worth noting is that her grandfather was an irresponsible alcoholic, and her own mother married at 14 to a man twice that age. Obviously we don't know much more beyond that, but the point is that she likely doesn't have the best background to start with.

Dr.Research said:
someone leak confidential files from a mental health professional (PROTIP: even if records did exist, don't do that. It's illegal).
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Some weens went through the trash after Chris burned 14BC down and leaked a psychologist's report, didn't they?
 
beechiness said:
Worth noting is that her grandfather was an irresponsible alcoholic, and her own mother married at 14 to a man twice that age. Obviously we don't know much more beyond that, but the point is that she likely doesn't have the best background to start with.
Some weens went through the trash after Chris burned 14BC down and leaked a psychologist's report, didn't they?
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I'd still want to hear how her childhood affected her and what she makes of it. It's obviously a weird scenario, but it isn't necessarily the worst experience of her life.
I remember on the CWCki there are some papers from a psychologist or other counselor-type person (I think it was from when Chris was kicked out of college). I assumed Chris put it out in the open to show how normal he was. If it was scavenged from 14BLC then, then I'd assume that's a legal no-no, unless records fall under that rule where garbage is free to take.

I am no legal expert so don't quote me on that.

EDIT: I fucked up on quotes, sorry if this is a clusterfuck.
 
I bet damn near everyone has a "personality disorder."

Not everyone is an utter piece of shit, though.
 
The traumatic interactions between Barb and Chris that I'm basing this on are mostly just between them: Barb angrily forcing Chris to sit down while she chopped off his hair (Bob called him a 'fag', but he didn't participate in this); Barb screaming and threatening that she was going to commit suicide (threats are prevalent from those with BPD); and Barb flipping over his table of toys in a rage when Chris said that he wanted to sleep in his own room.
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God, I wish Bob was still alive, he'd know what to do

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Bob was a shitty father, but at least he did not want people to laugh at his spawn, while Barb takes the position of, let them laugh, he's retarded anyway, he won't know the difference...
 
Asandy31 said:
Bob was a shitty father, but at least he did not want people to laugh at his spawn, while Barb takes the position of, let them laugh, he's retarded anyway, he won't know the difference...
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Blarb also comes off looking like she's going senile and not seeing the situation as bad as it actually is. Or she's just genuinely naïve like her son (or both her sons, if you think about it). Fuck if I know.
 
Dr.Research said:
I'd still want to hear how her childhood affected her and what she makes of it. It's obviously a weird scenario, but it isn't necessarily the worst experience of her life.
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Absolutely. It's just that since we're playing armchair psychologist, it's an interesting thing to think about.

Dr.Research said:
I remember on the CWCki there are some papers from a psychologist or other counselor-type person
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You're right - this was what I was talking about. For some reason I thought that the autism papers were found in the trash and leaked after the fire, which, as you say, would have been illegal.
 
It's not my business if somebody is fully content to rot with their surroundings watching TV on the government dole until they die
 
I really wouldn't be surprised, but IDK if we'll ever know for sure because the Chandlers avoid psychiatric care like they avoid exercise, healthy food, and most anything else that would help their situation.
 
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