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Will say, probably prefer it to the cibnall era bc of just how safe that shit felt, Russell at least knows how to make an interesting trash fire at his worst.
This. I don't know what RTD's smoking right now, but he can carry on being a retard in interviews so long as he gives us entertaining episodes. It's when that sort of rhetoric starts to show up in-universe that we've got a problem.

See:
Orphan 55.
 
I suspect there was some kind of sexual misconduct
He was straight up getting his cock out flashing people on set and everyone knew it, I remember a clip of an interview where Tate and Tennant laugh off that "everyone's seen John's penis" in candid conversation and that was long before he apologized for putting it on someone's shoulder on set, lmao. I get the impression most of them took it as a joke but someone of Eccelstone's caliber and minor crew members wouldn't (and shouldn't) stand for that kind of unprofessionalism. I don't like Barrowman but he's not a rapist.
 
It's one of the main things they dragged onto the show with the reboot, adding romantic elements to lots of the Doctor's relationships rather than them being merely platonic. It sometimes works but more often comes off as a bit creepy due to the enormous imbalance in the power dynamic due to the Doctor's age and experience. Arguably it works best between him and the Master since that is not an issue but guessing they might do it with Davros is hardly a leap.
The worst thing about the shipping in NuWho for me, is actually the pandering to the worst parts of the audience. I'm thinking in particular of Amy Pond, Rory and the Doctor 'triangle'. Early Amy was a fun character. And whilst the stories got a little more turgid over time she was rarely without fun moments. When we met her she was a pretty lively character, sexy and fun. And I remember very distinctly on Gallifrey Base (big Who fan forum) when the previews for S5 went out a lot of seething about the character - she had a really short skirt, for example. And when the first episode aired, a majority of that forum was having a meltdown about how much they hated her - focused most of all around this exchange:

"This is my friend Rory.
"Boyfriend"
"Kind of boyfriend".

To me, and in other circumstances most people, would see it as quite creepy that Rory corrected her and told her what the status of their relationship was when she evidently didn't feel the same way and so much of what we could see of them was that she'd never really fancied him and he'd sort of friend'd her into a relationship. All this came to a head with the end of an episode where Amy makes her move on the Doctor. Frankly, I found it funny. His reactions, her being the sort of girl willing to make the next move and how he'd never really had to deal with that before. And honestly in every single respect he WAS the better man than Rory - she was quite right in finding the Doctor more interesting and suitable.

Gallifrey Base was this tiny volcano of impotent rage at her.

And then the Doctor turned her down and set about setting her up - quite manipulatively - with Rory. If anybody recalls the "Amy's Choice" episode where there are two parallel realities and he seemingly knowingly sets up this situation where Rory "dies" in very gruesome fashion right in front of her only for her to wake up and find Rory there. Whom the Doctor nudges forward to go and make his move. Yes, because traumatic shock and grief are exactly the right time for her to make a rational choice about the relationship, Doctor. But now, Gallifrey Base is all about it. Because she's with Rory and he's got the girl and she's learned her lesson.

That's the worst thing about the shipping in Doctor Who. I mean, you'd think it would be "Rooossse" and all that maudlin stuff and gods did that get old. But on the other hand, I actually liked the chemistry between Clara and Eleven (at the end of one episode, he smacks her on the arse with a chamois leather and she looks like she quite enjoys it). And unlike Rose or Amy, Clara (original Clara) was much more intellectually on his level. In the 'Snowmen' episode, there are lots of little intellectual flirtations between them - like where he's testing her to see if she'll figure out why they've come to the roof, why he picked up the umbrella, etc. and his delight when she does. Or her "It's smaller on the outside". Of course they couldn't leave well enough alone and had to fuck that up with later shipping her with that Norsewoman. Probably the most chemistry I've seen with the Doctor since original Romana (scorching!).

So all that is true but for me it's still topped by the sheer pandering to angry beta types in the Fandom like the fuming "Amy is a slut/whore/wont fuck my stand-in" types on Gallifrey Base.
 
Gays and AIDS
Gays and drugs
Gays and pedophilia

Any more iconic pairings?
I wouldn't put it past him for managing at least one of those three, but these pale in comparison to the euphoric sensation of unreflectingly wielding a moral mandate. And the SocJus hugboxes, in all their viciously self-consuming incarnations, are great at giving true believers the feeling that they have a moral mandate. God I get MATI over smug SocJus fucks, getting high off of "Justice."
 
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Tennant's degeneration crisis continues

I feel bad for Peter Davison , getting run off Twitter for not sucking up to Jodie hard enough,

And now his daughter and son in law are apparently in the process of trooning out a grandchild.

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You know, I thought I was missing out when I dropped this show during 11's time while my serious geek friends enjoyed the new golden era of Who. But I'm glad I never became a fanatic, it's just in not my personality. Seeing this article, I feel mostly apathy. It's just another show being dragged by the whim of the people around it. Actors aren't folk heroes, they're people paid to play pretend. I don't understand, anymore, why anyone would give a shit about what David Tennant does.

My father grew up right after the war, he liked telling me he was there to see the first airing of the first episode of Doctor Who. The theme song was unlike anything ever before. He wasn't really a fan either, I think he just wanted to me appreciate how it bridged us across two different centuries, between two different Britains. He once quietly asked me "isn't it a little strange? Seeing men in women's clothing, it's not quite right". I think that was after some awful David Walliams bit on TV. He never liked Paul O' Grady either. I thought he was being phobic relic but now I think he was trying to warn me and his instincts were completely correct. I was the one being small minded and ignorant, when I should have listened and thought about it. Not that I'm telling this like it's a manifesto for something, I don't really know why I am.
 
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Sometimes I wonder if the attitude from the last few years towards the first plot of doctor who isn't due to the cavemen being "boring" as a lot of media people skirt over it as being, and more the fact the og doctor fucking tries bashing someone's skull in with a fucking rock at one point. It's honestly one of the many badass moments in the shows early history but "the doctor isn't violent and doesn't use weapons!" is the modern narrative and unga bunga caveman plotlines are a trope in media so somehow even if one's done well enough if it's already been done it's not worth talking about or some shit.

Using force when deemed neccessary has kinda always been a thing in the Doctor's character since day 1.
 
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Sometimes I wonder if the attitude from the last few years towards the fist plot of doctor who isn't due to the cavemen being "boring" as a lot of media people skirt over it as being, and more the fact the og doctor fucking tries bashing someone's skull in with a fucking rock at one point. It's honestly one of the many badass moments in the shows early history but "the doctor isn't violent and doesn't use weapons!" is the modern narrative and unga bunga caveman plotlines are a trope in media so somehow even if one's done well enough if it's already been done it's not worth talking about or some shit.

Using force when deemed neccessary has kinda always been a thing in the Doctor's character since day 1.
Yeah it was SFDebris interpretation that the Doctor was ready to kill that caveman when Ian encouraged him to not. And ever since that is why the Doctor seeks out human companions, because they'll help encourage him to do the right thing. I kind of liked that view of it all, but then I'm the guy who preferred the "cosmic hobo" version of the Doctor less the Space Jesus.
 
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