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MirrorNoir said:
Daleks have to appear in one shape or form once per season per the deal with Terry Nation's estate. The Children In Need special was allowed by the Nation estate to cover this clause for the 60th Anniversary "season" but they'll still have to include them in the next upcoming season.

Also, The One Who Waits is probably the Mara, since the giant snake creature would fit in with Davies saying he was going to do more fantasy stories plus find ways to bring in older Doctors (IE Davison and his crew) for guest spots
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The deal with the Nation estate has never been proven as true.

There's no indication it's the Mara or anything else.

Shut the fuck up.
 
so watched the meep special.

Oh god the scripting was so bad, could not tell wherher the actors were having a real hard time getting back into it or just struggling with bad naterial. I think both.

Lampshading that you made Donna do a stupid thing does not change the fact there was no eay her mum or Grandad would ever let her waste all the money.

And since the excuse was to help prople, she could have probably invested in loads of things that would have done whilst also keeping her family weathly beyond measure

Was not surprised by Meep being evil. Every cute marketable creature RTD has ever made for Who has had a kill count in the 1000s. Even the lovely globs of fat.

Wilf should of just died. It would have been oddly poetic if the first time they saw each other had been at a funneral.

Going back to the script, all the Diversity/Trans stuff felt forced and even the diversity cast seemed awkward saying it.

‘I’ll hold them off at the lift’ had the weirdest dilivery.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
Was not surprised by Meep being evil. Every cute marketable creature RTD has ever made for Who has had a kill count in the 1000s. Even the lovely globs of fat.
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Russell Transmitted Disease didn't even make this one. Beep the Meep came from a Fourth Doctor story in Doctor Who Magazine in 1980.
 
Is it worth it to watch from the beginning, or? From what I understand, there are constant retcons, a lot of nostalgia, and some real excellent concepts. Sorry, i know Doctor fans, but am not one myself.
 
Rumpled Foreskin said:
Is it worth it to watch from the beginning, or? From what I understand, there are constant retcons, a lot of nostalgia, and some real excellent concepts. Sorry, i know Doctor fans, but am not one myself.
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probably start from 2008 New Dr Who with David Tennant, and when the doctor turns into a woman assume she immediately died and the series ended.
I got the old series downloaded on my server, but it is really, really old and the reconstructions are terrible.
 
Betonhaus said:
probably start from 2008 New Dr Who with David Tennant, and when the doctor turns into a woman assume she immediately died and the series ended.
I got the old series downloaded on my server, but it is really, really old and the reconstructions are terrible.
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I’ve seen enough to know the female “doctor” is actually a tumor from when the doctors’ time stream was fucked with. I am curious about older Doctor, but thank you for the suggestion :)
 
Rumpled Foreskin said:
Is it worth it to watch from the beginning, or? From what I understand, there are constant retcons, a lot of nostalgia, and some real excellent concepts. Sorry, i know Doctor fans, but am not one myself.
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I'd start from as early as possible and go up to at least Davison. A fair amount is missing or in poor quality from the first two Doctors. Then I'd pick and choose from the earlier run of nu-Who. I like a few standalone episodes like Midnight but never really saw it as worthwhile to watch most of it.

Hartnell, the first Doctor, is very unlike the later ones. He's kind of a grouchy old man (and looks the part), with only a bit of the whimsical clown personality you started getting with Troughton and which has mostly persisted to this day.
 
If I literally started 1:1, when should i watch the movies? Save them to a certain point?

ETA: Was Hartnell the one who turned out to be the Curator?
 
AnOminous said:
Hartnell, the first Doctor, is very unlike the later ones. He's kind of a grouchy old man (and looks the part), with only a bit of the whimsical clown personality you started getting with Troughton and which has mostly persisted to this day.
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To be fair he just left an advanced technological society to one that hadn't even invented Wi-Fi yet, so it makes sense he'll be irritable until he goes native (and see's that the world's technology is rapidly progressing)
 
Rumpled Foreskin said:
Is it worth it to watch from the beginning, or? From what I understand, there are constant retcons, a lot of nostalgia, and some real excellent concepts. Sorry, i know Doctor fans, but am not one myself.
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Only if you start with Nu-Who.

Classic Who, especially for the first 6 seasons, have numerous "lost episodes "due to BBC reusing tapes from their archives and while a bunch of the lost episodes have been recreated via animation, several remain lost to the ages.

Also, the first two incarnations of the Doctor are radically different from the original version with much of his backstory not coming out until the very end of the second Doctor's last story.

Also, there are only three movies of which only one is relevant to the actual series. The Doctor Who TV movie that introduces the 8th Doctor takes place after the original series ends. The Peter Cushing films from the 60s are non-canon full color remakes of two B&W Dalek serials and have their own "unique" take on the premise that can't be reconciled with the TV show.
 
AnOminous said:
No, that was Tom Baker (and another actor iirc), who was Four, and sort of the "classic" Doctor for American fans (including me), largely because a lot of local PBS stations aired these episodes almost exclusively.
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The Curator had a few faces, I think. I know Colin Baker voiced him in certain audio stories.
 

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Tookie said:
The 12th Doctor is growing on me, he's a prick and that appeals to me.

I've never understood the Superwholock bullshit. I'm only vaguely aware of what Supernatural is and I don't understand how it fits into the other two shows.
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Twelve probably has the best arc of the modern Doctors imo. First season he's feeling all the weight of the Time War, second he's learning to move on and is in his mid-regeneration crisis with Clara and then finally he's fully comfortable as a professor with Bill. Capaldi sells it so well.
 
starborn427614 said:
Twelve probably has the best arc of the modern Doctors imo. First season he's feeling all the weight of the Time War, second he's learning to move on and is in his mid-regeneration crisis with Clara and then finally he's fully comfortable as a professor with Bill. Capaldi sells it so well.
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That’s certainly one way of justifying and making sense of Moffat clearly having to pivot from first series direction because he got complsints up the arse about the Doctor not being nice.

Which, no shit, he was played by a guy best known on telly for not being nice and swearing a lot
 
6MillionCoofs said:
That’s certainly one way of justifying and making sense of Moffat clearly having to pivot from first series direction because he got complsints up the arse about the Doctor not being nice.

Which, no shit, he was played by a guy best known on telly for not being nice and swearing a lot
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Jenna Coleman also kept flip-flopping on leaving or staying after Capaldi's first season, which probably didn't help
 
6MillionCoofs said:
That’s certainly one way of justifying and making sense of Moffat clearly having to pivot from first series direction because he got complsints up the arse about the Doctor not being nice.

Which, no shit, he was played by a guy best known on telly for not being nice and swearing a lot
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Either way, it worked out well for the character in the end.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
That’s certainly one way of justifying and making sense of Moffat clearly having to pivot from first series direction because he got complsints up the arse about the Doctor not being nice.

Which, no shit, he was played by a guy best known on telly for not being nice and swearing a lot
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That was supposed to be Colin's arc but he was so good at being arrogant and unlikable that they stopped making the show for like a year and a half.

Classic Who didn't really do plot arcs so you don't have to sweat the missing stories and you can just watch the better and shorter ones. For Hartnell, An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs, The Romans. Troughton check out Tomb of the Cybermen. I like The Dominators but not everyone does. Then Pertwee has a lot of 7 episode stories; it's the padding and repetition in the old ones that make them hard to watch. Spearhead from Space and Terror of the Autons are both 4 episodes and really good. Once Tom Baker's around most of them are 4 episodes and always entertaining because he's just fun to watch. The Brain of Morbius is the most Tom being Tom story. Davison's best was Caves of Androzani, Colin's was Vengence of Varos, McCoy's was Rememberance of the Daleks. There's your starter kit.
 
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