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Oh boy - this'll be fun. Kerr Avon delivers some of the most cutting and leisurely insults in Sci-Fi history. My favourite of them all has to be: "This is Callie. I'll introduce you properly when she comes round. This is Vila. I should really introduce you now, he's at his best when he's unconscious."
Binged the whole series and OMG the ending! Absolutely the best series I've seen in years. Paul Darrow as Avon was terrific, like a cross between William Shatner in TOS and Patrick McGoohan in the Prisoner. Incredibly ballsy storylines and not even the main characters are safe.

I want a pet Orac
 
I hate this idea that the Doctor has a no guns philosophy. It's nu who slop to make it more kid friendly.
Honestly I kind of like that trope, it forces the hero to get creative sometimes. For example in the Parting of the Ways the Doctor wanted to use a delta wave to wipe out everything on Earth to defeat the Dalek Emperor. Say what you will about omnicide, at least he doesn't use a gun!

Okay he backed out of it, but still.
 
Then there's River Song who I don't know about the rest of you but I find her distinctly unappealing.
I never liked her as a love interest ever since her debut episode aired. Another random woman out of nowhere who wants his alien dick? He can't catch a break. Did they think every episode without an explicit kiss and all of the spinoffs outweighed all the screen time spent on teasing another romance? I'm like Krokodil Overdose, just give me more adventures. Sometimes the romance felt a bit like shipping with official branding.

She looks okay beside 12 but when she flirts with 11 it's like watching an older woman go for an autistic 25 year old.
 
Binged the whole series and OMG the ending! Absolutely the best series I've seen in years. Paul Darrow as Avon was terrific, like a cross between William Shatner in TOS and Patrick McGoohan in the Prisoner. Incredibly ballsy storylines and not even the main characters are safe.

I want a pet Orac
Oh, the ending of Blake's 7 is something else.
The way that Avon has finally given in to hope, to believe that Blake actually is what he says he is - a good person who he can actually set aside his cynicism and believe in, only to mistakenly believe that Blake has betrayed them after all. It's a long time ago that I watched it so I'm hazy on the odd bit here and there, but it was a great show. And Avon really was superb.

What was that exchange something like:
"I'm going to sleep."
"How can you sleep at a time like this?"
"A time like what? Blake is up one tree, _____ is up another. Unless they're planning to throw nuts at each other nothing is going to happen until morning.
"You're never involved are you, Avon?"
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care. Or indeed why it should be necessary at all."


Well it was something along those lines. I think I have it fairly close. The show was of its time, both in special effects and some ideas, but it was written for intelligent people and that's a rare thing. RIP Blake and Avon (and Callie).
 
What was that exchange something like:
That was from Season 1 "Duel" which was on a planet with some very TOS-like aliens. Also the episodes that mutoids were shown to be vampires (until they immediately dropped that idea).
In that finale scene I thought Avon was shooting Orac right before he got shot so that he didn't fall into the hands of the Federation. But apparently they were going to keep the option open that he was stunned just in case another series was greenlit.
 
For example in the Parting of the Ways the Doctor wanted to use a delta wave to wipe out everything on Earth to defeat the Dalek Emperor. Say what you will about omnicide, at least he doesn't use a gun!

Okay he backed out of it, but still.
Shame the episode in question randomly added a scene beforehand where the Daleks turbo nuked earth to the point where every continent melted which means that the whole "destroy the daleks at the cost of killing earth" plotline became utterly fucking moot as earth was super dead already by that point. I actually remember watching at the time as a mini sperglet and even then that shit confused the hell out of me as I tried to figure out what the fuck the moral dilemma was supposed to be beyond some garbled "KILLING BAD" horseshit
 
Shame the episode in question randomly added a scene beforehand where the Daleks turbo nuked earth to the point where every continent melted which means that the whole "destroy the daleks at the cost of killing earth" plotline became utterly fucking moot as earth was super dead already by that point. I actually remember watching at the time as a mini sperglet and even then that shit confused the hell out of me as I tried to figure out what the fuck the moral dilemma was supposed to be beyond some garbled "KILLING BAD" horseshit
I'm gonna be real with you I completely forgot about that scene but in my defense so did the writers.
 
NuWho built a rabid female audience on non-threatening British twinks with an air of mystery
wouldn't the obvious conclusion be to have that be a male companion for Jodie?
it's like watching an older woman go for an autistic 25 year old.
that would be catnip for the middle aged women still on tumblr by the time Jodie became the doctor
 
I never liked her as a love interest ever since her debut episode aired. Another random woman out of nowhere who wants his alien dick? He can't catch a break. Did they think every episode without an explicit kiss and all of the spinoffs outweighed all the screen time spent on teasing another romance? I'm like Krokodil Overdose, just give me more adventures. Sometimes the romance felt a bit like shipping with official branding.
She was interesting when introduced, the entire conceit of them encountering each other backwards was neat. But Moffatt (OF COURSE) had to follow up on it and tell the entire story back to front and completely kill the mystique. And without that, well, the story was honestly kind of crap: she's a Temu Time Lord who was kidnapped by a cult that had conquored earth and was trying to kill the Doctor who joins forces with Richard Nixon and Mark Sheppard (gay FBI edition) to take them down via the power of subliminal messaging? Or something?

wouldn't the obvious conclusion be to have that be a male companion for Jodie?
No, because the Companion has to be the moral anchor/human perspective of the show, and a man telling a woman what is and isn't fucked is a sexism or something. Can you imagine the reaction to the Time Lord Victorious speech and Adelaide's rebuttal with the genders reversed?
 
No, because the Companion has to be the moral anchor/human perspective of the show, and a man telling a woman what is and isn't fucked is a sexism or something
i'm not talking about the companion taking charge, but just being some cute twink for the doctor to perv out on and take on adventures. or at least have the twink just gaze lovingly at lady doctor while she explains some concept without butting in to mansplain something
 
wouldn't the obvious conclusion be to have that be a male companion for Jodie?
It doesn't work like that. The companion has to be bland enough for women to project themselves onto. It doesn't work with a twinkish male. No woman...except pooners...want to be a 115 male who goes on adventures with a 5'3 woman dressed like a kindergarten teacher. Women hate seeing submissive men, and that companion would have been reviled by the entire fanbase.
 
i'm not talking about the companion taking charge, but just being some cute twink for the doctor to perv out on and take on adventures. or at least have the twink just gaze lovingly at lady doctor while she explains some concept without butting in to mansplain something
The companions are supposed to challenge the Doctor not just be eye candy. The Doctor is supposed to be very smart and very wise but miss the small details that matter to humans or the people he's visiting. Some times he will be a bit sadistic or angry and want to lash out and the companion has to question him and show doubt that he is this God like figure who runs the universe on a whim. The best companions aren't even eye candy, they're the people who challenge the Doctor in ways he cannot think his way out of.
It doesn't work like that. The companion has to be bland enough for women to project themselves onto. It doesn't work with a twinkish male. No woman...except pooners...want to be a 115 male who goes on adventures with a 5'3 woman dressed like a kindergarten teacher. Women hate seeing submissive men, and that companion would have been reviled by the entire fanbase.
Women would want 2 or 3 men of different arch types (rich, rough, arty probably) to have a love triangle over a bland woman. Putting a twink in would have killed it even faster than it already did. Doctor nigger is very twinkish and look how well he went over.
 
That was from Season 1 "Duel" which was on a planet with some very TOS-like aliens. Also the episodes that mutoids were shown to be vampires (until they immediately dropped that idea).
In that finale scene I thought Avon was shooting Orac right before he got shot so that he didn't fall into the hands of the Federation. But apparently they were going to keep the option open that he was stunned just in case another series was greenlit.
I was so excited when I found Blake's 7, it's like 4 alternate Doctor Who seasons run by Terrance Dicks and Chris Boucher right when Tom Baker's era started getting silly. Baker and the guy who played Blake had an idea where The Doctor would randomly pass by Blake in a hallway in a Blake's 7 episode, nod and say hello. Also the end of Series B was going to be Daleks but they decided not to in the end. Anyone who's sick of Nu Who should definitely watch B7.

Oh, and Blake's 7 in Character is the only good podcast about the show. They also do one called Doctor Who Adversaries, a couple of ornery old Brits.
 
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Man, I forgot how good Troughton's performance was as 2.

Catching up on classic who really reminds me of how much SOVL the new shit is missing.
 
Man, I forgot how good Troughton's performance was as 2.

Catching up on classic who really reminds me of how much SOVL the new shit is missing.
He's just so bitchy. I love it. Sure he's a space hippy, but he just does not give a fuck.
 
Davison's 5 was also quite underrated I feel. Not as wacky or eccentric as Baker's 4 and a lot more controlled, even vulnerable, in his performance. The destruction of the sonic also helped alleviate the "magic wand" effect that it had started taking on by that point in the show where 99% of problems could just be swished away via a vibrator the main character carries around. His final performance in his regeneration episode was also genuinely great.

All around a very different portrayal of the character, and I think quite a good one. He felt like an old man in a young mans body, which is exactly who the Doctor is.
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The 6th doctor is fucking mess though, lmao. I think that people are more or less spot on with that era's dip in quality across the board. What in gods name happened?

I had actually forgotten how bad Colin Baker's era was. Half the stories are outright terrible and/or way too long and drawn out, the budget feels like it fell of a cliff, the doctor is dressed like a clown and is written like a ego-driven psychopath, and the whole thing feels like it had zero creative vision behind it for the entire first half, just random shit happening then out of nowhere Trial of a Time lord shows up and starts eating up everyone's remaining time. Colin's last words as the character is fucking "Carrot juice!?".

A lame gag. The 6th doctor literally ends with a joke, then a completely different actor in a bad wig bumps his head and changes into 7. Baker didn't even get to be there for his own death scene. What the fuck.

He's just so bitchy. I love it. Sure he's a space hippy, but he just does not give a fuck.
The galactic hobo.
 
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