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Nordbayern.de has an article with a few interesting bits: "Es ist ungerecht": Jetzt äußert sich der "Drachenlord" zu seinem Urteil (Archive)

Rainer Winkler feels misunderstood
"It's unfair": Now the "Dragonlord" comments on his verdict

By Eva Orttenburger and Ulrike Löw

Altschauerberg/Nuremberg - The day after the grueling court case against the "Dragonlord", Rainer Winkler himself now comments on his verdict in a nearly 15-minute video on Youtube. In the process, the first doubts arise about the remorse he showed in court.
Because of assaults and insults towards his haters and the police, the "Dragonlord" has to spend two years in prison. Winkler already has several previous convictions for assault and insult, and he is also under ongoing probation. But he has not proven himself and did not remain free of punishment during the probationary period - therefore the district court saw no other option than to impose a prison sentence without suspending it for probation. One day after the trial, Rainer Winkler (32) himself comments on Youtube about the verdict and the upcoming prison sentence.

"Trial and my opinion" is the title of the almost 15-minute clip. In it, he says: "The verdict didn't surprise me. It's unjust, in my opinion, because I'm defending myself - nothing else."

He believes the court's decision is wrong. After all, he says, it is he who is under psychological pressure and is constantly attacked physically, verbally and psychologically by his haters. Therefore, he does not understand why he is standing before the court as the defendant. After all, he said, he was only defending himself against his haters, who had invaded his property and insulted him. "I don't see getting locked up just for defending myself. It's very frustrating when you don't know how to defend yourself. What exactly am I supposed to do?" he describes his situation in the video. "What happened sucks," he admits, explaining, "I just don't have any other way to defend myself."

He says he couldn't have done the community service hours of his previous probation sentence because no one had hired him. "I wanted to do this. I would still do it," he affirms. The fact is that the justice system has a hard time enforcing sentences previously imposed on him, such as work hours. No institution wants him to do the state-imposed community service with them; they fear the "media uproar," a possible onslaught of haters, Winkler's probation officer explained. His suggestion sounded almost desperate: Rainer Winkler could sweep the courtyard of the district court as part of his community service. Winkler also does not take part in the requested anti-aggression training, allegedly he could not afford the trips to Nuremberg.

Hence now the sentence without probation. It remains to be seen what happens next and whether the court has really ended the "dragon game" with this verdict. Despite the prison sentence, Rainer Winkler wants to turn his life around completely. Also on the advice of his probation officer, he has sold his house in Altschauerberg (district of Neustadt/Aisch-Bad Windsheim). He announced that he would "lead a completely new life" and limit his YouTube activities. "Since I sold the house, I am more relaxed about the whole thing. I also told the court that," he explains in the video.

By the way, he did not have a nervous breakdown when the verdict was announced, he says, after there were rumors about that. He was simply tired because he had not slept for about 30 hours.

The verdict of the district court is not yet legally binding. The court took his shown insight and remorse as a plus point for him. But with his current video, Winkler is once again casting doubt on the remorse he has just shown, ultimately harming himself. This is because the court of appeal provides for the possibility of an appeal against the verdict of the district court to the Nuremberg-Fürth Regional Court. Rainer Winkler himself can use this legal remedy and fight to have the execution of the imposed prison sentence suspended. However, the public prosecutor's office can also appeal - and the prosecutor already demanded a two-and-a-half-year prison sentence in the district court. Rainer Winkler's stay in the prison could therefore be even longer.
 
No institution wants him to do the state-imposed community service with them; they fear the "media uproar," a possible onslaught of haters, Winkler's probation officer explained. His suggestion sounded almost desperate: Rainer Winkler could sweep the courtyard of the district court as part of his community service. Winkler also does not take part in the requested anti-aggression training, allegedly he could not afford the trips to Nuremberg.
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Beautiful, imagine being the poor probation officer who has to work with Lardlord. Being a full time tardwrangler and even the state itself doesn't know anymore what to do.

And not being able to pay the trips? Sure thing, with all those internetz moneyz.
 
Please tell me this actually happened and isn't just an example to demonstrate a valid point.
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Not exactly. Someone did try this, but trial by combat was abolished in 1819, so it wasn't a case of archaic laws being unenforced.

Pretty fucking metal, though. From Wikipedia:
Early trials by combat allowed a variety of weapons, particularly for knights. Later, commoners were given war hammers, cudgels, or quarterstaves with sharp iron tips. The duelling ground was typically sixty feet square. Commoners were allowed a rectangular leather shield and could be armed with a suit of leather armour, bare to the knees and elbows and covered by a red surcoat of a light type of silk called sendal.[14] The litigants appeared in person. The combat was to begin before noon and be concluded before sunset.

Either combatant could end the fight and lose his case by crying out the word "craven",[4] from the Old French for "broken", which acknowledged "(I am) vanquished." The party who did so, however, whether litigant or champion, was punished with outlawry. Fighting continued until one party was dead or disabled. The last man standing won his case.
 
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if the lard manages to shoot down his own chance of an appeal by being a remorseless buffoon who refuses to accept anything said in court that prevents another probation.

Wonder if statements like that video can be used to deny his appeal.

No, it's not public. It's possible to get a rough estimate though. The standard land value (Bodenrichtwert) is 45€/m² for the whole village; the plot is about 900m² to 1100m² (estimated, as I don't know exactly where the property line is. That makes 40,000€ to 50,000€ for the land. The value of the buildings is likely close to 0 (some may be uneconomical to restore and need to be demolished).
In court, Rainer said his debts would come down to like €40k or €50k, something thereabout... If his debts eat up all the money from selling his property... well shit.
 
And not being able to pay the trips? Sure thing, with all those internetz moneyz.
Reminder that this was him just 2 weeks ago in his own stream:

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Why do people hate him so much and call him the Lülülü-Lord of Lies?
 
dear german frens,

Did DrachenLord go by himself? Did he have a lawyer or PD to help him?
As far as I remember, you have to have a lawyer in German courts. If you can't pay one you have to get one, he has to fill out some forms so the state will pay his fees. But the fees are fixed and you have to be eligible for it, eg being on social security.
Also, not a lot of lawyers want to do that, because of the fixed rates.

Edit: I stand corrected, you don't need one but it is highly recommended
 
This isn't a contest about who should get our sympathy though.

Shitheads going to troll an obese moron are scum, but that doesn't give Rainer the right to beat up randos on the street at his leisure.
And lest we forget, Rainer is perpetuating this vicious cycle cause he profits off the pity donations. He's giving the trolls exactly what they want. Attention and tardrages.
There are two sides to this medallion of fail and both are covered in pigshit is what I am saying.
nobody said the Lard is blameless. All that is said is that people that desired to piss him off to the point where they got hurt by the ogre aren't people worth losing sleep over. Those people literally are the definition of "Play stupid games win stupid prizes" Those that didn't do anything to him physically and just watched and got hurt? Those i sympathize with since they are mostly innocent but the Flashlight dude? He asked for it.
 
Except that he never went to peoples places to cause drama, they all went to his house and then cried when he reacted in a bad way.

The people that got hurt going to his house get zero sympathy from me. IP2 streamer go out of their way to be edgy in public and annoy people. Rainer is just a lazy fuck who wanted to earn a living on the internet and autists provoked him for "content" by showing up to his house, throwing shit at his house, smearing his walls, going to his dads grave and threaten to dig him up.

Yeah no, those two faggy medical students who ended up whining in court about rainer get no sympathy.

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it's not just him being lazy, he said and did so much retarded and stupid shit. He is provoking people on a daily basis. After he doxed himself he told people to come by he'll beat em up. He claims he always said he didn't want anyone to come by but he actually did tell people on younow to come by and he will fuck them over. It took him a few years to stop telling people to come over.

He also said stupid shit about the Holocaust, treats women like objects, showed his dick to kids, sent dick pics to teenagers (that was some years ago), said all soccer/football players should be hit by a meteorite because he hates soccer/football. He talks smack about anything that people have a different opinion about and tells people to kill themselves. Best example: on younow a female chatter wrote "but i am sitting in a wheelchair" and Rainer read "but you sit in a wheelchair" and he said "ok fine you fucking whore, I hope you die a horrible death" and banned her. And that's how he is with anyone just because he can't read. He treats his family and neighbours like shit too. There's an audio tape where he shouts at his neighbours that ask him to stop with his shit because they can't take the visitors anymore and told him that they don't like him anymore. His response "I don't care if the whole world hates me. You assholes have to deal with it and not me!!!!". He also threw a coconut at a neighbours daughter. What a great human.

Were the two medical students also named somewhere? Does anyone know them?

I would like to make their identities public in wider circles on the Internet. What scum.
You can expect someone of the Twitter dragon lord gayops bubble will dox em. The guy who was hit with the mag light, he told his name in the interview at court day and showed his face.
 
That makes 40,000€ to 50,000€ for the land. The value of the buildings is likely close to 0 (some may be uneconomical to restore and need to be demolished).
That little? Damn, it's a sizeable property, if he had kept it maintained and not turned it into a fucking ruin I imagine it would have been quite valuable, especially if he owns it outright. As it is, I heard he is already in debt by about 50000€, if he sells up won't that have to go to his debtors first?
Hows he planning on his Shrek-Trek across Germany with no money lol?
and my opinion" is the title of the almost 15-minute clip. In it, he says: "The verdict didn't surprise me. It's unjust, in my opinion, because I'm defending myself - nothing else."
Like, this is what gets me, if someone breaks his windows and then runs off before Rainer can get his fat ass to the gate, and he just grabs some rando (that's standing about because they've done nothing but stand and laugh,) and beats his ass, he can't seriously expect that he can just claim self defense and everyone should agree with him?
He's autistic as fuck if that's his mindset.
The court took his shown insight and remorse as a plus point for him. But with his current video, Winkler is once again casting doubt on the remorse he has just shown,

However, the public prosecutor's office can also appeal - and the prosecutor already demanded a two-and-a-half-year prison sentence in the district court. Rainer Winkler's stay in the prison could therefore be even longer.
And there we go, he lucks out because the court buys his remorseful act, and then the second he gets home he shits on it by whining and bitching about the verdict, despite having no doubt been warned (assuming his lawyer isn't an idiot) that the verdict isn't yet certified and can still be increased...
I have no words.
 
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Und ihn will auch keiner aus seiner Bruchbude befreien, außer der komische SM-Typ vielleicht... und ich glaube selbst widerliche sexuelle Freaks haben Standards.
Naja gibt auch genug weirdos die allet bumsen was ihnen vor den Dödel kommt.

Except that he never went to peoples places to cause drama, they all went to his house and then cried when he reacted in a bad way.

The people that got hurt going to his house get zero sympathy from me. IP2 streamer go out of their way to be edgy in public and annoy people. Rainer is just a lazy fuck who wanted to earn a living on the internet and autists provoked him for "content" by showing up to his house, throwing shit at his house, smearing his walls, going to his dads grave and threaten to dig him up.

Yeah no, those two faggy medical students who ended up whining in court about rainer get no sympathy.

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The two medical students are cunts. Yes fucking around with Rainer (physically mostly) weren't that great either but still quite acceptable. But showing up to the grave and threaten to dig him out? How incredible dumb and retarded do you have to be? Because of people like this Rainer got Sympathy.
 
That little? Damn, it's a sizeable property, if he had kept it maintained and not turned it into a fucking ruin I imagine it would have been quite valuable, especially if he owns it outright.
If you have a better estimate where the property line is, you can get the area with most map services (Google maps...), multiply that by 45€/m² and add any value you think the buildings still have.
 
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And there we go, he lucks out because the court buys his remorseful act, and then the second he gets home he shits on it by whining and bitching about the verdict, despite having no doubt been warned (assuming his lawyer isn't an idiot) that the verdict isn't yet certified and can still be increased...
I have no words.
yeah no lmao. He didn't luck out. If he was lucky, he wouldn't have gotten a prison sentence but another probation without any conditions. The court didn't buy anything that's why he got 2 years. The prosecutor just suggested 2.5 years prison sentence. It is what the prosecutor saw as fit. The judge thought 2.5 years is too much and reduced it to 2 years. And tbh I thought he'd get like 6 months max or something. Not 2 fucking years.
He won't get out of that situation tho. His appeal won't do anything for him. If the regional court decides that the district court was too mild with the sentence, they could send Rainer to prison for a longer time.

I am convinced the court knows he didn't regret anything. They can see through his act and lies.
 
If the regional court decides that the district court was too mild with the sentence, they could send Rainer to prison for a longer time.
This is only possible if the prosecution files an appeal, too. If they don't the only thing that can happen is that the verdict stays the same or is reduced. I doubt that the prosecution is petty enough to file an appeal over 6 months, though... and we all know Rainer's appeal will have about the same chances of making it as a bloated goldfish in a piranha swarm.
 
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This is only possible if the prosecution files an appeal, too. If they don't the only thing that can happen is that the verdict stays the same or is reduced. I doubt that the prosecution is petty enough to file an appeal over 6 months, though... and we all know Rainer's appeal will have about the same chances of making it as a bloated goldfish in a piranha swarm.
Ye the prosecutor won't appeal. But Rainer has.
 
Noch ein Gerichtsprotokoll auf Reddit: https://archive.md/zrzjv

Wirre Textwüste ohne Absätze, die zu übersetzen und reformatieren ich gerade zu faul bin, will sie nur sichern bevor die Reddit-Admins dem aktuellen Sub die Brügel nausschmeißen.
Schrecklich zu lesen aber doch recht interessant.

Weiß jemand ob es das Video von den Medizinstudenten irgendwo gibt? Laut dem Protokoll soll es ja gegeben haben.
 
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