DE Drachenlord / Rainer Winkler - 300kg schwerer Metal-Fan aus Mittelfranken

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@decaydent hat es sehr gut beschrieben, ich habe dazu auch einen Post auf englisch gemacht:


Im Prinzip geht es bei Bewährung halt immer um die Frage: Kann man den Angeklagten so einschüchtern dass er sein Leben grundlegend ändert damit er nicht mehr straffällig wird, ohne ihn direkt einzusperren. Rainer hat bei Gericht kurz eine Show abziehen können, aber am Ende konnte er halt kein Konzept vorbringen wie er sein provokantes Youtube-Auftreten so ändert dass er Haidern weniger Grund gibt zu ihm zu fahren und Stress zu machen. Er taucht da wie ein Penner auf und gibt zu dass er so weitermachen wird wie bisher. Er hat nicht verstanden wie ernst die Situation war. Er lernt es nur mit einer Haftstrafe.

Im Haider-Gerichtsprotokoll wird am Ende erwähnt, warum die Strafe dann doch zur Haft angesetzt wurde. Grund war unter anderem die Tatsache, dass er aus seiner letzten Bewährung nicht gelernt, und sogar ne Woche später schon wieder verletzt hat.
 

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Whoever wants to watch an alleged narcissist being delusional, enjoy the stream.
Lol, his legal analysis is shit. Rainer, you can defend yourself against an imminent attack on a right of yours. Within reason. You‘re not getting screwed by our legal system, but your own actions.
- he is the height of comedy and his streams are tons of fun (he laughs at old jokes so it must be true)
- his narcissism is his strength
- he wants to stay alive and thinking he is the greatest wanker on earth works to his benefit
-his psychological strength is so strong everything else pales in comparison
- he will not attend Wacken next year
- he does not think he is a victim (he gets attacked and treated unjustly, but not a victim)
- victim mentality is someone who is reduced in his psyche and confidence so much he attacks others (cut to a hater before the front door)
- Rainer is philosophical
- he stands for his convictions against everyone else (heroic!)
- haters are meeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaan
He is incorrigible and will probably justify it to himself as being a victim of injustice - sry, an attacked persecutie, not a victim.
 
Lol, his legal analysis is shit. Rainer, you can defend yourself against an imminent attack on a right of yours. Within reason. You‘re not getting screwed by our legal system, but your own actions.
- he is the height of comedy and his streams are tons of fun (he laughs at old jokes so it must be true)
- his narcissism is his strength
- he wants to stay alive and thinking he is the greatest wanker on earth works to his benefit
-his psychological strength is so strong everything else pales in comparison
- he will not attend Wacken next year
- he does not think he is a victim (he gets attacked and treated unjustly, but not a victim)
- victim mentality is someone who is reduced in his psyche and confidence so much he attacks others (cut to a hater before the front door)
- Rainer is philosophical
- he stands for his convictions against everyone else (heroic!)
- haters are meeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaan
He is incorrigible and will probably justify it to himself as being a victim of injustice - sry, an attacked persecutie, not a victim.
I watched a video of him last night wandering about with a fucking stick and smashing at cars that just drove past him ffs, he's not the good guy here.
And when I was checking out his village on googlemaps, he's literally right in the middle of town, (yeah it's like two streets, but still) so it's not like his neighbors can even ignore him, I thought he was on the outskirts but he's right there, with his noise, and his haters, and his garbage, and his rats.
I feel sorry for his neigbors.
 
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In court, Rainer made a song and dance about how sorry he is, that he didn't mean to insult the cops and so on. Part of the reason why the judge was so pissed off at Rainer, was his attitude towards cops doing their best to protect him from the effects of his own idiocy... but he meekly paddled back, tried to weasel his way out and his lawyer claimed that it was spur of the moments things, misunderstandings and so on.
What can we make of this promise and his intention of keeping it, is it true or not?

Let's ask Jonathan Frakes:

Here we fucking go. You think insulting cops, calling them incompetent, claiming they deliberately refuse to do their duty, that they play games on their phones instead of helping him and doing their job badly was bad. Hold on to your butts, here's Rainer, mere days after his trial:


Translation:
"And then the statement from another cop, that recently yelled at me and insulted me, repeatedly, and who threatened me! Then to hear him say 'when you continue doing this, you'll get that in return', which is a threat itself. [scratches armpit] You know [stress sigh] It's not just me bad-mouthing the cops and it's not just me being insulted by the cops or the cops by me, yeah, it's the whole situation that's shit."

There you fucking have it. Not just an insult. This time it's outright libel and defamation by accusing them of very severe crimes against him. Online. To an audience of 1.5k people. At best 3 days after he was sentenced to prison over exactly the same shit. Words fucking fail me. I really hope this shit comes back to slap him in his face as hard as legally possible.

Libel is treated the same as insulting someone and in this case could be punished with up to 2 years of prisontime alone. Given that he's a repeat-offender that commits this crime less than 72 hours after being punished for just that, there is no fucking way they'd not throw the book at him.
Wrongfully accusing someone publically of breaking the law can land you up to 5 fucking years of tard-time-out. Hard to make this stick, since his intention has to evidently be to get the other person into actual legal trouble, but the libel alone could be used to double his sentence.
And this is just a tiny snippet of one stream. I would not doubt that he's been doing this in his streams every day now... and every single stream is yet one more instance that can be brought to court individually.

So here's me hoping for another round in court, this time over his repeat offense of libel and then soon thereafter tax fraud.

Er taucht da wie ein Penner auf und gibt zu dass er so weitermachen wird wie bisher. Er hat nicht verstanden wie ernst die Situation war. Er lernt es nur mit einer Haftstrafe.
Man muss auch sagen, dass sein Anwalt kräftig auf die Tränendrüse gedrückt hat, in Rainers Namen Versprechungen und Ankündigungen geliefert hat und Rainer das alles mit einigen kurzen Sätzen direkt wieder eingerissen hat.
Er hat nunmal nicht die Absicht, sich oder sein Leben grundlegend zu ändern, er hat keine Einsicht in dem, was ihm vorgeworfen wird. Und zu guter Letzt: Der Anwalt sagte, wie sehr Rainer darunter leidet, dass er sein Elternhaus verkaufen muss, dass ihm der Weggang aus seinem Heimatdorf schwer fällt und so weiter und so fort. Was macht Rainer direkt im Abschlussplädoyer? Er betont, dass er das Haus problemlos verscherbeln konnte, weil ihm nichts mehr dran liegt und sich drauf freut, aus dem Dorf wegzukommen. Hauptsache #unbesiegt halt.
Das Angebot der Verwaltung, die Schimmelschanze zu erstehen, gab es schon seit Jahren... warum also erst jetzt? Da wird die Richterin aus gutem Grund hellhörig. Zusammen mit dem ganzen anderen Stuss ist einfach glasklar, dass der Drache so weitermachen wird. Und wie die Staatsanwältin so schön klarstellte: Es geht ja nicht nur um den Tatort Schimmelschanze, sondern auch um den Tatort Internet.
 
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In court, Rainer made a song and dance about how sorry he is, that he didn't mean to insult the cops and so on. Part of the reason why the judge was so pissed off at Rainer, was his attitude towards cops doing their best to protect him from the effects of his own idiocy... but he meekly paddled back, tried to weasel his way out and his lawyer claimed that it was spur of the moments things, misunderstandings and so on.
What can we make of this promise and his intention of keeping it, is it true or not?

Let's ask Jonathan Frakes:

Here we fucking go. You think insulting cops, calling them incompetent, claiming they deliberately refuse to do their duty, that they play games on their phones instead of helping him and doing their job badly was bad. Hold on to your butts, here's Rainer, mere days after his trial:


Translation:
"And then the statement from another cop, that recently yelled at me and insulted me, repeatedly, and who threatened me! Then to hear him say 'when you continue doing this, you'll get that in return', which is a threat itself. [scratches armpit] You know [stress sigh] It's not just me bad-mouthing the cops and it's not just me being insulted by the cops or the cops by me, yeah, it's the whole situation that's shit."

There you fucking have it. Not just an insult. This time it's outright libel and defamation by accusing them of very severe crimes against him. Online. To an audience of 1.5k people. At best 3 days after he was sentenced to prison over exactly the same shit. Words fucking fail me. I really hope this shit comes back to slap him in his face as hard as legally possible.

Libel is treated the same as insulting someone and in this case could be punished with up to 2 years of prisontime alone. Given that he's a repeat-offender that commits this crime less than 72 hours after being punished for just that, there is no fucking way they'd not throw the book at him.
Wrongfully accusing someone publically of breaking the law can land you up to 5 fucking years of tard-time-out. Hard to make this stick, since his intention has to evidently be to get the other person into actual legal trouble, but the libel alone could be used to double his sentence.
And this is just a tiny snippet of one stream. I would not doubt that he's been doing this in his streams every day now... and every single stream is yet one more instance that can be brought to court individually.

So here's me hoping for another round in court, this time over his repeat offense of libel and then soon thereafter tax fraud.


Man muss auch sagen, dass sein Anwalt kräftig auf die Tränendrüse gedrückt hat, in Rainers Namen Versprechungen und Ankündigungen geliefert hat und Rainer das alles mit einigen kurzen Sätzen direkt wieder eingerissen hat.
Er hat nunmal nicht die Absicht, sich oder sein Leben grundlegend zu ändern, er hat keine Einsicht in dem, was ihm vorgeworfen wird. Und zu guter Letzt: Der Anwalt sagte, wie sehr Rainer darunter leidet, dass er sein Elternhaus verkaufen muss, dass ihm der Weggang aus seinem Heimatdorf schwer fällt und so weiter und so fort. Was macht Rainer direkt im Abschlussplädoyer? Er betont, dass er das Haus problemlos verscherbeln konnte, weil ihm nichts mehr dran liegt und sich drauf freut, aus dem Dorf wegzukommen. Hauptsache #unbesiegt halt.
Das Angebot der Verwaltung, die Schimmelschanze zu erstehen, gab es schon seit Jahren... warum also erst jetzt? Da wird die Richterin aus gutem Grund hellhörig. Zusammen mit dem ganzen anderen Stuss ist einfach glasklar, dass der Drache so weitermachen wird. Und wie die Staatsanwältin so schön klarstellte: Es geht ja nicht nur um den Tatort Schimmelschanze, sondern auch um den Tatort Internet.
Unfucking believable.
You'd think just being hit with a 2 year sentence for this shit would have given him pause, a moment to reflect and consider that his actions have just landed him in the shit.
If it were me I wouldn't even be going online, I'd be very quiet and respectful and go out of my way to show that, yes, I have taken on board what the judge said and I'm doing my damndest to try and make a good impression in the hope that my appeal may see some time knocked off.
If I gave a statement at all it would be that I'd not made the best decisions in the past and that this is a wake up call and I'm going to do better.
I wouldn't go back to the same shit I was doing, whine about the verdict, state on stream I didn't intend to go to jail, and then accuse the fucking cops of threatening me to stay quiet wtf lol?
That's why he's a cow I guess, fucking sweaty Ogre never learns, he wore a fucking dirty t shirt to court ffs.
I hope this bites him in the ass, tbh.
He learned not one goddam thing, he's like Chris.
 
Unfucking believable.
You'd think just being hit with a 2 year sentence for this shit would have given him pause, a moment to reflect and consider that his actions have just landed him in the shit.
If it were me I wouldn't even be going online, I'd be very quiet and respectful and go out of my way to show that, yes, I have taken on board what the judge said and I'm doing my damndest to try and make a good impression in the hope that my appeal may see some time knocked off.
If I gave a statement at all it would be that I'd not made the best decisions in the past and that this is a wake up call and I'm going to do better.
I wouldn't go back to the same shit I was doing, whine about the verdict, state on stream I didn't intend to go to jail, and then accuse the fucking cops of threatening me to stay quiet wtf lol?
That's why he's a cow I guess, fucking sweaty Ogre never learns, he wore a fucking dirty t shirt to court ffs.
I hope this bites him in the ass, tbh.
He learned not one goddam thing, he's like Chris.
I bet his narcistic brain is restructuring and remodeling the entire trial to make everyone much more hostile, nasty and unempathic. Maybe in his endless wisdom, he'll start railing against the judge or the prosecution - especially the latter since she had not seen any of his videos before the trial and he might accuse her of not doing her job either.

Given his rather mediocre brainpower, there's a decent chance that haters might egg him on in a way that he doesn't even realize and lure him into saying something that'll get him into deep shit.
Just mention the prosecution often enough and depending on the reaction either go with "she did a fine job" until he blurts out "No she didn't," and goes into a rant or the exact opposite with "she did a shitty job" until he blurts out "Absolutely!" and then ranting about her incompetence.

Fuck, maybe they can make him say some really nasty sexist or disgusting shit by pointing out that the judge/prosecution were hot.

Point is, not only does this ruin all his chances of an appeal (where he could indeed have claimed the verdict was a wake-up-call, if he hadn't continued this route), but it might lead to even bigger legal trouble down the line. Even well intentioned people in his stream trying to warn him that he's digging his own grave with such comments could trigger the fat fuck into a spiteful and outright suicidal rant that piles accusation upon accusation against the cops, the judge, the prosecution, maybe even his own damn lawyer.
I can hear him already: "This is my stream, I'll do what I want! No one can tell me what to do on my stream! And besides, what I am saying is the truth! It's not defamation when it's true!"

Stellt euch mal vor, Deutschland hätte mehr Florida style Stand-your-Ground oder so dann wäre Rainer vermutlich durchgekommen
Ganz Deutschland hat "stand your ground" Notwehr, die Gesetze sind bundeslandübergreifend. Bevor du so einen Unsinn verbreitest, mach dich bitte mit der Lage vertraut - sowohl mit der rechtlichen als auch mit dem Tatbestand. Deutsche Notwehr steht der amerikanischen in nichts nach und schlägt sie in dem einen oder anderen Bereich noch.

Allerdings tut Notwehr in Rainers Fall absolut nichts zur Sache.
Rainerle kann keine Notwehr geltend machen, wenn er aus der Bude gemeddlt kommt, um Leuten auf der Straße nachzurennen und sie zu einem Kampf aufzufordern, weil er in seinem Primatenhirn endlos runterwongelt, dass zurückzustecken ja Schwäche heißt.
Man kann keinen Streit eskalieren und dann vor Gericht angekrochen kommen und auf Notwehr plädieren. Schon garnicht, wenn man klar und deutlich auf Krawall gebürstet ist und sich bewusst und absichtlich in die Schusslinie schiebt.
 
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I bet his narcistic brain is restructuring and remodeling the entire trial to make everyone much more hostile, nasty and unempathic. Maybe in his endless wisdom, he'll start railing against the judge or the prosecution - especially the latter since she had not seen any of his videos before the trial and he might accuse her of not doing her job either.
Good thing that Drache doesn't doodle webcomics, or else I know where this would be going...

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One has to think the reason refugees get off the hook all the time in Germany for various crimes is because they can’t actually speak the language so their public defender speaks for them, and because the defender know how to play the game they can usually get a very mild sentence.

The best course of action for Rainers lawyer would really have been to sedate him and let him wear one of those joke fake open eye glasses. He really bombed it whenever he opened his mouth, and that was even despite the fact that people described him as atypically calm and collected.
 
Maybe in his endless wisdom, he'll start railing against the judge or the prosecution - especially the latter since she had not seen any of his videos before the trial and he might accuse her of not doing her job either.
He should be thankful the prosecutor and judge didn't take the time to watch some of his videos beforehand, they don't exactly show the Drachenslob in a favorable light, if anything they would make the court even less kindly disposed to him than they were.
Having to sit through even half an hour of Rainer calling the cops for people standing on a public street, and then denigrating and abusing them for not dealing with the shit HE caused in a manner HE would like, both to their faces and an audience of upwards of a thousand people... they'd come out the other side wishing beheading was still an option.
 
The judge knows how he is on the internet. That's why she said there isn't just crime scene Altschauerberg but also crime scene internet. She and the prosecutor are fully aware of how he is online.
 
Passen ihm die nur nicht oder gibt es irgendeinen tieferen Grund für den ich zu exzeptionell bin?
Reiner trägt seit Jahren nur noch Pantoffeln. Für normale Schuhe bräuchte er bei seinen seit Jahren unbehandelten Plattfüßen wahrscheinlich othopädische Sonderanfertigungen, um sie halbwegs würdevoll reinzuquetschen.
 
Does Germany have no self defense laws? From the videos I've seen, people would throw rocks through his windows and cause legitimate damage. They're trying to provoke, and got the reaction they wanted. Free this man.
Bruh, did you read the thread at all or did you just read the happenings headline and rushed in here without reading anything we prepared and wrote?
 
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