DE Drachenlord / Rainer Winkler - 300kg schwerer Metal-Fan aus Mittelfranken

[Rommelbutt]

Why were people so inclined to deface Drachenlord's place, out of all lolcows.

because they don't like him so they threw shit at his house. I can't explain why people throw things at people in general but it is how it is.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

Why were people so inclined to deface Drachenlord's place, out of all lolcows. Is it because Germany is pretty lax on that kind of stuff and because you aren't allowed to kick people out of your own property in Germany or something? I'm an amerimutt and in alot of states we can practically kill you if we want to on our own property if you're being enough of a shithead.

Because Drachenlord kept challenging the haiders in his stream weekly (saying stuff like "send hundreds, send thounds. send millions", "I will be here forever no matter what you do" etc.). The fact that just starts screaming and throwing stuff at random people just staying in the streets in front of his house, including literal innocent bystanders, doesn't help either.
Plus a lot of them are retarded socialist do-gooders who think it's their moral obligation to bully the village idiot for saying bad things on the Internet. Others just show up shortly to have fun with their friends for 5 minutes and then go on with their lives without hurting anyone.

tl;dr: retard germs being retard germs to each other

 

[Bloitzhole]

Why were people so inclined to deface Drachenlord's place, out of all lolcows. Is it because Germany is pretty lax on that kind of stuff and because you aren't allowed to kick people out of your own property in Germany or something? I'm an amerimutt and in alot of states we can practically kill you if we want to on our own property if you're being enough of a shithead.

A very illustrative example of recent memory - someone cut some random line running from dragonlord's house when he still lived there, probably thinking it was his internet connection.

Dragonlord then went on a multi-minute video tirade, calling all of his detractors utter idiots incapable of identifying the correct cable, making fun of their inability to cut his access to the internet and espousing his own superior intellect.

A day or two later, someone actually went to one of the main boxes used by the local telecommunication company to route all their signals, broke it open and cut everything inside, leaving the entire village without television and cable-based internet until it got fixed.

This is the central dynamic of the game - minor inconvenience, dragonlord reacts in a challenging manner, major escalation.
Repeat for 8 years,

sorry

ACHT BESCHISSNE JAHRE!

And you end up with a house in the state it is in now. (Edit: It's gone now of course, sorry, I guess I still can't quite believe it).
Note that he did some of the graffiti himself and also smashed some of his own windows in fits of rage.

He also removed some graffiti using a high pressure waterspout, which ofc damaged the outer walls of the house.

Others just show up shortly to have fun with their friends for 5 minutes and then go on with their lives without hurting anyone.

A colleague of mine was driving from Erfurt to Munich via Nuremberg and decided, last October iirc, to make a brief detour to Dragonlord's village.
He only had a couple of minutes as he had an appointment, so he jogged up to the house, where 2 people were already standing, just looking, no shouts or anything, though of course they might have exchanged some "pleasantries" before his arrival. The occupant of the house kept up a steady stream of insults and shouts as he and the other 2 onlookers simply exchanged smiles. At one point there were a few seconds of silence so one of them shouted "Alright then Rainer?", which prompted him to continue for another 3 or so minutes. As they turned and left, the shouting increased in volume to ensure they would continue to hear it for another solid minute while walking down to their cars to leave. This is also very typical - Rainer would always start something along the lines of "Yes, run you cowards, run away, show the world how spineless you are!" the moment he saw people leave, and would keep up his extra loud monologue for a long time after they had turned the corner.

The vandalism is stupid and unnecessary, but I can see the entertainment value of just having him shout obscenities for minutes at a time if you happen to be in the area.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Was ein Unsinn.

Nur um es nochmal in aller Deutlichkeit zu sagen: 2 Jahre Haft (die dann wegen guter Führung evtl nach einem Jahr schon abgebrochen werden) ist ein Witz gegen den Scheiß, den man an der Backe hat, wenn man schuld- oder haftunfähig eingestuft wird.
Wenn Rainers Anwalt ihm nahelegt, sich derart vor einer Haft zu entziehen, dann muss der Anwalt echt ein deep-cover Haider sein.

Ich behaupte mal, dass wir das gerade nur deshalb diskutieren, weil irgendwer das Wort "Heilanstalt" in Reiners YT-Kommentaren gestern gelesen hat, hat dann gegoogelt und ist dabei auf den entsprechenden Paragraphen gestoßen.

Weil, hurr durr wArUm sOlLtE rEiNeR dAs wOrT "Heilanstalt" kEnNen dAs mUsS eR iRgEnDwO aUfGeScHnApPt hAbEn?!?!

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

"All the stupidity and ludicrous sentence structure has been preserved."

In other words, German.

Worse, Rainer Winkler's German.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Darüber wird schon seit letztem Jahr spekuliert, auf allen Plattformen und in allen Haider-Kreisen. Meistens geht es darum, dass Reiner zu fett sei für den Knast und in 9 von 10 Fällen graben Leute dazu einen WELT-Artikel aus, in dem es um einen Typen geht, der nicht in den Knast musste, weil er zu fett war und der Knast keine passende Zelle für ihn hatte. Zu Fett für den Knast ist nur eben die Superduperspecialausnahme.

Hier ist der Text zu dem Paragraphen:

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Ich sehe hald nicht, welche Krankheit Reiner haben soll, weshalb seine Haft aufgeschoben werden müsste. Und der Haft regelt einen Haftaufschub, nicht eine Haftverschonung.

Es wird seit Jahren darüber spekuliert, ob er nicht schon Diabetes hat. Diabetes per se ist kein Grund für Haftaufschub. Es gibt genug Häftlinge in DE, die einsitzen und Diabetes haben.
Absurd Fett sein ist auch per se kein Grund. Wenn jemand zu fett für den Knast ist, ist die Begründung im Hintergrund, dass es keine passende Zelle für so einen Häftling gibt. Man kann jemanden, der in München wegen KV verurteilt wird, nicht einfach mal so in Bremen in den Knast stecken. Reiner ist absurd fett, aber wäre er zu fett für eine Zelle in Erlangen oder Nürnberg, hätte man das schon im Oktober thematisieren können.

Soll es um Reiners geistige Gesundheit gehen? Viel Glück bei der Begründung, dass Reiner geistig so kaputt sei, dass er nicht in Haft könne, aber nicht geistig kaputt genug sei, um strafunfähig zu sein, was dann wiederum bedeuten würde, dass es für ihn in die Forensik ginge.

Haftverschonung ist etwas anders und wird durch andere Paragraphen geregelt. Über den Wiki-Eintrag kann man in das Thema eintauchen und sich von dort aus weiter einlesen.

Kurzum, ich calle Bullshit.

EDIT:

Reiners Gesundheitsversorgung dürfte im Knast auch besser gewährleistet sein als aktuell. Strenggenommen wissen wir nicht, wie genau er versichert ist.
Sein Gewerbe ist er ja los und seit ihm der Gewerbeschein entzogen wurde, läuft das eh relativ dubios als vermeintlicher Freischaffender. Da kann ich mir eine Fülle von rechtlichen Fragen vorstellen, die im Ernstfall auftauchen, sollte wirklich etwas Gravierendes passieren.

Dazu ist er aktuell quasi obdachlos. Er braucht für das Verfahren eine Melde-Adresse. Ohne Melde-Adresse gäbe es einen gewichtigen Grund, um ihn in U-Haft zu nehmen, weil dann die Gefahr des Abtauchens im Raum steht (Flucht und Abtauchen sind hier quasi zwei verschiedene Paar Schuhe; aber die Konsequenz ist die gleiche). Nirgendwo offiziell gemeldet, kein festes Familiengefüge, keine Freunde und es droht eine mehrjährige Haftstrafe, während er durch Deutschland (und ins Ausland) tourt und die Polizei seiner Person somit strenggenommen im Zweifelsfall nicht sofort habhaft werden kann? No fucking way.

Ein dt. Gericht hat mal geurteilt, dass es ok ist, wenn Gerichtspost an eine Wärme-Stube für Obdachlose geht, sofern der betreffende Obdachlose gewissermaßen Stammgast ist. Ähnlich kann das bei Reiner aktuell laufen, nur dass seine Post eben an den Anwalt geht. Das bedeutet aber nicht, dass Reiner dort auch als wohnhaft gemeldet ist. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass das rechtlich gar nicht möglich ist, eine Anwaltskanzlei als Wohnort anzumelden. Aber da müsste ich jetzt erst recherchieren, um sicher zu sein.

Wie soll das also funktionieren, einen Obdachlosen mit vermutlich zweifelhafter, rechtlicher Absicherung, als krank genug einzustufen, um die Haft zu verschieben, wenn er am Ende in Haft sogar noch besser dran ist? Das ergibt gar keinen Sinn.

Ich calle dementsprechend noch mehr Bullshit.

Ich ergänze mal noch um Punkt 3:

Reiner soll körperlich so angeschlagen sein, dass ihm Knast derzeit nicht zumutbar sei. Aber stundenlang durch die Gegend fahren und sinnlos Sprit und Geld verbrennen, das geht?

Ja genau.

EDIT:

Ich habe dazu jetzt noch mal ein wenig nachgelesen, weil es mir keine Ruhe gelassen hat. Hier ist Punkt 4, warum das alles Bullshit ist:

Über Haftunfähigkeit bzw. -verschonung nach § 455 StPO entscheidet die Staatsanwaltschaft. Weil die nämlich für die Strafvollstreckung zuständig ist.
Wann entscheidet die StA über so etwas oder prüft das? Nach dem ein Urteil rechtskräftig geworden ist.

Also eigentlich ist das sogar Punkt 1 und nicht Punkt 4.

 

[im5!XxhO]

Ich ergänze mal noch um Punkt 3:

Reiner soll körperlich so angeschlagen sein, dass ihm Knast derzeit nicht zumutbar sei. Aber stundenlang durch die Gegend fahren und sinnlos Sprit und Geld verbrennen, das geht?

Ja genau.

Eben, sollte der zu krank für Haft sein würde er nicht durch die Gegend fahren können. Aus der Sache kommt er nicht mehr raus.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Eben, sollte der zu krank für Haft sein würde er nicht durch die Gegend fahren können. Aus der Sache kommt er nicht mehr raus.

Vor allem deshalb (war gerade dabei den Beitrag, den du zitiert hast, zu bearbeiten)

Ich habe dazu jetzt noch mal ein wenig nachgelesen, weil es mir keine Ruhe gelassen hat. Hier ist Punkt 4, warum das alles Bullshit ist:

Über Haftunfähigkeit bzw. -verschonung nach § 455 StPO entscheidet die Staatsanwaltschaft. Weil die nämlich für die Strafvollstreckung zuständig ist.
Wann entscheidet die StA über so etwas oder prüft das? Nach dem ein Urteil rechtskräftig geworden ist.

Also eigentlich ist das sogar Punkt 1 und nicht Punkt 4.

 

[SomeBoyo]

To be fair though, Rainer is considered a small ogre by American standards.

If you've seen Wings, he weighs less than Rainer.

 

[Rommelbutt]

For the English speaking farmers: I have a weekly limit on vimeo so the translation will take some time. But I uploaded 3 videos so far, will translate the other 2 and then make them public. More videos next week.

 

[The Demon]

Americana

What I'm currently wondering is how or where is he going to go once he gets out of prison? I don't think any apartment is going to let him rent there considering it's just going to get vandalized. I doubt dragonlord is going to conceal where he lives since he's dumb. I also doubt the police are going to be of any help since their solution to bulldoze his fucked house and arrest him on random bullshit charges that no nation should have. It's going to be an interesting 2 years

Edit:

For the English speaking farmers: I have a weekly limit on vimeo so the translation will take some time. But I uploaded 3 videos so far, will translate the other 2 and then make them public. More videos next week.

You the real mvp

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

arrest him on random bullshit charges that no nation should have

Dude, he committed assault. Multiple times. Despite being on parole for assaulting people. What the fuck do you expect to happen?

As for that other thing, we all are eager to find out about his future, cause no one really knows.
He has to look for a place to stay in on his own and he's about as toxic as people get. Not only is he an ex-con, but also someone who causes trouble either by luring in idiots that vandalize his house or by being an obnoxious asshole towards others. He's constantly in money issues, so there's that as well.

Most likely, he's going to move into a no-fucks-given rathole in some lowlife ghetto. So things should stay interesting even after his little stint in the nick.

 

[The Demon]

Dude, he committed assault. Multiple times. Despite being on parole for assaulting people. What the fuck do you expect to happen?

As for that other thing, we all are eager to find out about his future, cause no one really knows.
He has to look for a place to stay in on his own and he's about as toxic as people get. Not only is he an ex-con, but also someone who causes trouble either by luring in idiots that vandalize his house or by being an obnoxious asshole towards others. He's constantly in money issues, so there's that as well.

Most likely, he's going to move into a no-fucks-given rathole in some lowlife ghetto. So things should stay interesting even after his little stint in the nick.

Didn't he get arrested for charges unrelated to the assault? I'm not saying he didn't deserve to be arrested though. He also did definitely harass people who had no idea who he was.

What was the original reason he was arrested again? I definitely have something wrong here

 

[Rommelbutt]

Didn't he get arrested for charges unrelated to the assault? I'm not saying he didn't deserve to be arrested though. He also did definitely harass people who had no idea who he was.

What was the original reason he was arrested again? I definitely have something wrong here

he didn't get arrested. he got convicted for assault and assault while being on parole.

 

[The Demon]

he didn't get arrested. he got convicted for assault and assault while being on parole.

Ohh okay. Thanks for clearing it up

 

[plattschwanz]

Bevor die Abrißarbeiten endgültig abgeschloßen werden, wollte ich noch ein sehr kleines Faktum erwähnen, was irgendwie nie einer mehr anspricht: Bevor das Dach der kleinen Maschinenhalle für die Bulldogtraktoren weggebrochen ist, konnte man eine Hausinschrift erkennen. Auf dieser war wohl der Bauherr dieser Halle mit den Initialen "J. W." eingetragen und das Baujahr war mit 1964 angegeben.



"J. W." war vielleicht der Großvater, aber soweit mir bekannt ist, gibt es dazu keine genauen Informationen. Hat gerade alles mal etwas mehr als ein halbes Jahrhundert gehalten .

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Didn't he get arrested for charges unrelated to the assault? I'm not saying he didn't deserve to be arrested though. He also did definitely harass people who had no idea who he was.

What was the original reason he was arrested again? I definitely have something wrong here

He never got arrested.

He got convicted for using pepper spray sometime in 2018. He was on his ground and was hiding behind a fence which he had covered with blue plastic planes. He claimed to have been acting in selfdefence but the people he pepper sprayed weren't actually physically attacking him and were on the other side of the street. So there was enough space between Drachenlord and his haters and the court didn't recognize the situation as threatening and convicted him.
For the pepper spray incident he got 8 months on parole. He was also convicted to do community service and to visit an "anti-aggression training". He did neither do community service nor did he visit an "anti-aggression training".

Only one week after he got convicted he attacked another person in front of his house. So basically he broke his parole within 7 days. This incident was handled in the trial in October 2020.

Fast forward to the trial last year (October 2020):
He had to face trial for three cases of assault.
To explain it very easily: we have kind of three levels of assault. If you just punch someone in the face it's level 1 assault. If you use a weapon or something that could be considered to be a weapon like a bottle or a stone it's automatically level 2 assault. Drachenlord had to face trial for 3 level 2 assaults. He used a flashlight to punch two different persons and he threw a rock at another one.
In addition to these offences he had to face trial for several incidents where he insulted police officers. All of these incidents had been recorded or happened during live streams.

Now you need to know that Drachenlord has been convicted for several cases of insulting before the trial in October. These earlier convictions came to light in the October trial. So basically he is a repeating offender.

In 2016 he attacked a car with a wooden stick for which he got convicted because of assault too. This was his first kind of serious conviction and got sentenced to a fine for it.

Next week he has again to go to court bc he appealed the conviction in October. It is very likely that he will get convicted again. If this will happen he won't go to jail immediately as his crimes are not that serious. It's not like that he killed someone and his assaults were actually very lightly. If he gets convicted he will be in freedom for around 2-4 months until he has to go jail.

The issue for Drachenlord is that he is a repeat offender. Also in October in court he expressed remorse for his deeds but just one day later, after he got convicted, he recalled his remorse and insulted the judge, the states attorny and his victims again - in a live stream.

And there is more!
Last year in December he got reported to police again. For assault. For throwing a stone or bottle at someone. That case has been put on hold bc of the current case. If he won't get convicted next week then the case from December will be opened again which means that it is likely that he will be sentenced in this case.

 

[Stoneheart]

For the English speaking farmers: I have a weekly limit on vimeo so the translation will take some time. But I uploaded 3 videos so far, will translate the other 2 and then make them public. More videos next week.

Rumble funktioniert ziehmlich gut und du brauchst nur ne Email glaub ich.

Why were people so inclined to deface Drachenlord's place, out of all lolcows. Is it because Germany is pretty lax on that kind of stuff and because you aren't allowed to kick people out of your own property in Germany or something? I'm an amerimutt and in alot of states we can practically kill you if we want to on our own property if you're being enough of a shithead.

most of them are standing on a public road. also the police is not his friend after years of calling them for people standing on the street doing nothing, so they will never come to catch anybody spraying on his house.

 

[Kredithai]

Glaubt das Gelaber auf Twitter nicht die haben das hier nur gestern gelesen und machen sich wichtig.

Sein Anwalt wird zu Ihm gesagt haben er soll sein Maul wenigstens für eine Woche halten und deswegen sagt er nix.

 

[The Demon]

He never got arrested.

He got convicted for using pepper spray sometime in 2018. He was on his ground and was hiding behind a fence which he had covered with blue plastic planes. He claimed to have been acting in selfdefence but the people he pepper sprayed weren't actually physically attacking him and were on the other side of the street. So there was enough space between Drachenlord and his haters and the court didn't recognize the situation as threatening and convicted him.
For the pepper spray incident he got 8 months on parole. He was also convicted to do community service and to visit an "anti-aggression training". He did neither do community service nor did he visit an "anti-aggression training".

Only one week after he got convicted he attacked another person in front of his house. So basically he broke his parole within 7 days. This incident was handled in the trial in October 2020.

Fast forward to the trial last year (October 2020):
He had to face trial for three cases of assault.
To explain it very easily: we have kind of three levels of assault. If you just punch someone in the face it's level 1 assault. If you use a weapon or something that could be considered to be a weapon like a bottle or a stone it's automatically level 2 assault. Drachenlord had to face trial for 3 level 2 assaults. He used a flashlight to punch two different persons and he threw a rock at another one.
In addition to these offences he had to face trial for several incidents where he insulted police officers. All of these incidents had been recorded or happened during live streams.

Now you need to know that Drachenlord has been convicted for several cases of insulting before the trial in October. These earlier convictions came to light in the October trial. So basically he is a repeating offender.

In 2016 he attacked a car with a wooden stick for which he got convicted because of assault too. This was his first kind of serious conviction and got sentenced to a fine for it.

Next week he has again to go to court bc he appealed the conviction in October. It is very likely that he will get convicted again. If this will happen he won't go to jail immediately as his crimes are not that serious. It's not like that he killed someone and his assaults were actually very lightly. If he gets convicted he will be in freedom for around 2-4 months until he has to go jail.

The issue for Drachenlord is that he is a repeat offender. Also in October in court he expressed remorse for his deeds but just one day later, after he got convicted, he recalled his remorse and insulted the judge, the states attorny and his victims again - in a live stream.

And there is more!
Last year in December he got reported to police again. For assault. For throwing a stone or bottle at someone. That case has been put on hold bc of the current case. If he won't get convicted next week then the case from December will be opened again which means that it is likely that he will be sentenced in this case.

He's a lot dumber than i thought