Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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Smack Patrick said:
Kakarot does scratch that Legacy of Goku itch that's been missing from DB games. So I'd imagine it's still popular since it's still getting DLC.

What they need to do is make the game that was revealed to me in a dream. A Xenoverse spin-off called "Dragon Ball: Time Patrol"
>starts off at the start of DBXV2 where instead of your guy getting first place like the DBXV2 protag you get 2nd place
>Fu recruits you for a special project "I'm gonna send you back in time, and I want you to go nuts!"
>sends you back to Raditz fight
>you fight Raditz with Piccolo and Goku
>after defeating him you expect to go back to Conton but Fu stops time
>"I said go nuts! What happens next is up to you."
>You then get the choices: "Train with Piccolo & Gohan", "Train with the Earthlings", "Train with Goku"
>choices impact the story going forward
>train with Piccolo and Gohan? Gohan doesn't choke and takes out Nappa. Only Gohan and Piccolo survive.
>train with the Earthlings? Yamcha dodges the Saibaman and with a combined effort they take out Nappa. Only the Earthlings survive.
>train with Goku? Follows the main story as much as possible
>each story branches off from there and so on
So essentially the Sparking Zero Gohan What-If ramped up to 11.
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I kinda had an idea that it builds off on Sonic Forces but better, you are sent to assist current timeline DBZ where it plays off like normal or something/ But it was cringe.
 
Recently, I have been noticing Geekdom talking about God and how awesome and super cool being religious is. He is all about that positivity now.

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He loves his fans and he loves God, gaiz! But you see, apparently God hasn't repaid his love by giving him balls because he still pulls shit like this

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I dunno if I have said this before, but he should actually test his little theory by just leaving if he is that confident he doesn't need this anymore. With all that bitching he does about the internet people, it's probably better for him.


God didn't give him a brain either.
 
Bork Laser said:
A DBS remake is the last thing anyone wants. We want the fucking Moro and Granolah saga at this point.
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I'm not surprised. When I heard this news, I also asked "why?". A friend asked me though, what IS Dragonball Super and how do you watch it all the way through? And you know what? I couldn't tell them.

We currently have to start off four versions of one movie:
Battle of Gods: The Movie
Battle of Gods: The Movie Extended Cut
Battle of Gods: The anime saga that expands it before and after
Battle of Gods: The manga which has some scenes that lead into the Universe 6 and Resurrection F.

The anime adds and changes so many things, there isn't really a definitive version anymore. So what? You watch a few episodes of Super, the movie, and then read the very brief manga for the ending? It's not really conducive in one package. Resurrection F is no better. You have the movie and anime arc AGAIN. The manga just says fuck it, and skips it and says see the movie.

Then we get into the non-movie Super stuff which is its own can of worms. The Universe 6 Arc is next where it's mostly the same until halfway through. Kaioken Blue is not a thing in the manga and it ends completely differently.

After that, we have the Goku Black Arc and that's such a fucking mess. Goku Black might be the single worst arc in Dragonball up to this point. (Until Granolah becomes something most people are forced to see anyway) Toyotaro changes the entire arc outright. So what's the definitive version? Toyotaro's or the anime's? The two arcs are so radically different they might as well not be the same story. So which do you watch or read?

The Broly movie happens at some point and it's canon to both the anime and manga, and neither chose to adapt it.

The Tournament of Power is also another mess. The anime is just an entire arc of fight scenes with virtually no story whatsoever. It's 35 damn episodes of that. The manga just said "No thanks" and Toyotaro doesn't adapt most of it. He just adapts the really important stuff with Kefla and Jiren's team. He completely guts the arc, but at least ATTEMPTS to salvage Jiren as a character. However the manga TOP is so short, it might as well not even have been adapted at all.

The anime might end, but the Moro Arc and Granolah arc continue in the manga and have never been adapted. So you have to jump from the anime, back to the manga again.

Superhero is a little confusing as well. There's the movie, which is easy enough. However, the manga has a Goten & Trunks mini-arc that leads into Superhero (which wasn't released until AFTER the movie, mind you) for another manga-exclusive. There's also the ending chapters of the manga that occur AFTER the movie.

To get the full story of Super, you start with the first few episodes of BOG anime, go to the BOG Movie, end on the BOG manga, watch the first few anime episodes of RF, then the movie, then U6 anime and manga simultaneously, Black as an anime and manga simultaneously, Broly, TOP anime, TOP manga, Moro, Granolah, Goten & Trunks, Superhero, then the manga again for the finale. Mind you, I'm also excluding Dragonball Minus AND Jaco Galactic Patrolman both of which have some relevance to Super.

If this wall of text has proven anything, other than that I'm an autistic retard, Super is an absolute nightmare to consume from a watcher's perspective. In 2025 there's no definitive version of Super and it's all over the place. It was poorly handled, poorly thought out, and nobody at Toei seemed to give a shit enough to fix it. Super Kai is pretty darn needed if you want to bundle, package, and sell this story.
 
Repirated and replayed through DBZ:Kakarot because someone mentioned it in the thread. (And since I only played the main game and none of the DLC's originally.)
Thoroughly enjoyed my time playing it again.
Also although the BoG DLC was dogshit, I did think it was kinda neat how they implemented and changed the RoF to suit how the DBZ:K ends.
BoG: Different timeline so Beerus wakes up super early (depending on when you play it) with the intention of having Whis training Goku and Vegeta to fight him. (It's just a powerleveling DLC)
RoF: Different timeline so rather than the Frieza Force reviving Frieza they use the fact Goku brought him and the Frieza Force back the end of Kakarot with Porunga.
Trunks DLC: Another reminder that being born as Trunks is to be born to suffer. Enjoyed the DLC but since it doesn't cover the Goku Black Arc I wish it played on the Kakarot ending where Bulma brings Future Trunks back and had the story play out more like the Shin Budokai 2 game. (Minus the future Bardock inclusion.) Mainly just to allow you to level up and use Future Gohan after the DLC has concluded.
Haven't played the other DLC's yet.

Party Hat Wurmple said:
what IS Dragonball Super and how do you watch it all the way through?
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I usually just tell people: "Watch the BoG and RoF movies. Then skip to episode 28 of the anime and watch through everything. Watch the Broly Movie then start the manga at chapter 42 and read until the end."
 
Speaking of what ifs? I had an idea for one that i thought could be quite cool that i have never seen be done.

>cell destroys 16 outright
>a reluctant gohan fights cell to a stalemate
>seeing that gohan doesn't have the will to fight, goku jumps back into the fight with cell
>cell, backed into a corner, does the self destruct move
>goku ITs him away as usual
>cell comes back, kills Trunks
>This instead triggers SS2 in vegeta
>vegeta kills cell mercilessly

Maybe you could change a few other things like who goes in the HTC with who for it to flow a bit better narratively. Always thougjt it would be a cool what if to see/play
 
Something that doesn't make sense to me is Dende. Yes, he does have control over the Dragon Balls but wouldn't Piccolo as well? Considering he's now Kami?
 
Smack Patrick said:
Yeah it's the main reason I haven't started the isekai comic I had in mind.
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Dude, coming from someone who write literature fanfiction, just fucking do it. You will find people who suits their niche. Life isn't all about attention/adoration. I mean someone literally made a Isekai Fanfiction of them as Yamcha and PUBLISHED it. So you can do anything.

I usually don't write Isekai Fics, because usually some of them just inserts themselves as a character within the media and usually has a reverse harem/harem. In the case of the Yamcha Isekai fic, the person was trying to fix Yamcha's life by essentially ditching going down the path that led to him being assblasted by Saibamen into him training with Kami or something. I usually like Isekai Fics that inserts the protag as a new character where they have to work alongside the main protags and it's kinda awkward at times since a main isekai trope is that they know what's going to happen usually because the protag/narrator was a Terminally Online NEET who obsessed over the source material.

But as usual please do it, I do want to see what ideas you have in store and I mean this genuinely. :]
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
Something that doesn't make sense to me is Dende. Yes, he does have control over the Dragon Balls but wouldn't Piccolo as well? Considering he's now Kami?
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Kami was the one who created the DragonBalls and assumed the role of Earth's God. Even if he and Piccolo are seperate halves of a whole being, they're still their own people. So when they rejoin, Kami ceases to be. The DragonBalls don't recognize Piccolo as their creator. He's technically not even Piccolo anymore for that matter, nor does he personally want the responsibility Kami had. So they need a new caretaker/God. Enter Dende.
Plus you don't want the guy who, at the time, was still one of your best fighter's also being the life line to the Dragonballs. We saw how much of an ass pain that was when he and Kami were still linked. That would have been a disaster considering Piccolo almost gets fucking killed, again, by Cell after his fight with 17.
And just from a narrative standpoint, the Dragonballs already cut a lot of tension. Having Piccolo be super strong and in control of the Dragonballs is too much.
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
Something that doesn't make sense to me is Dende. Yes, he does have control over the Dragon Balls but wouldn't Piccolo as well? Considering he's now Kami?
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Rick The Stick said:
Kami was the one who created the DragonBalls and assumed the role of Earth's God. Even if he and Piccolo are seperate halves of a whole being, they're still their own people. So when they rejoin, Kami ceases to be. The DragonBalls don't recognize Piccolo as their creator. He's technically not even Piccolo anymore for that matter, nor does he personally want the responsibility Kami had. So they need a new caretaker/God. Enter Dende.
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>Piccolo and Kami are life linked like Shin and Beerus
>Piccolo is sealed away
>Kami trains with the former Guardian of Earth
>at some point creates the Dragon Balls despite having amnesia
>I assume Namekians are like turtles where instead of finding water upon birth, he's like "hmm, this planet doesn't have Dragon Balls, I must create them."
>Piccolo spits out Piccolo Jr.
>Piccolo Jr doesn't know how to make DBs
>so when Jr and Kami fuse, they got inert
That's my assumption anyway

Dr. Arinsu said:
But as usual please do it, I do want to see what ideas you have in store and I mean this genuinely. :]
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Yeah I probably will at some point, just need to finish my other projects first.
 
The other thing about the Dragon Balls is that basically, there's two races of the greenskins based on what they're good at. One half is good at magic and supernatural stuff, and the other half is good at facepunching and power blasting. Kami-sama has the magical power and prowess while Piccolo has the combat skills and abilities, in part because that was what he was spawned for - he was meant to be even better than the original half that was deaged and all.

I think the idea is that even if Piccolo, post-fusion, has the knowledge of how to create Dragon Balls or revive them, what he lacks is the control over magic that is needed. He is 90% punchman and 10% magicman, and all that getting Kami-sama to join him got him would be awareness of god ki and such [if he even had that back in the Buu saga]. So he couldn't restore them himself even if he wanted to.
 
Piccolo Junior was born as a Warrior class Namekian after DKP spat out his egg to be as strong as possible. Then Piccolo as the dominant part of the fusion remained a Warrior Namekian when he refused with Kami.
It's not difficult to figure this out, guys.
Meanwhile one of Senileyama's last gifts to us for Piccolo in Daima was making him forget how to speak Namekian.
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
Piccolo Junior was born as a Warrior class Namekian after DKP spat out his egg to be as strong as possible. Then Piccolo as the dominant part of the fusion remained a Warrior Namekian when he refused with Kami.
It's not difficult to figure this out, guys.
Meanwhile one of Senileyama's last gifts to us for Piccolo in Daima was making him forget how to speak Namekian.
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yeah, see
this doesn't really work when they're in some way supposed to be the same existence fundamentally to the point killing one would kill the other (which for some reason didn't kill kami when goku killed the original piccolo because piccolo made piccolo so just don't think about it)

but who am i kidding
this is all just plot speak bullshit to get someone to replace kami as guardian of earth, in spite of that position being completely worthless
 
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