Dragonsnow / DrDragonTim / Snowdragon6450, and the Changed Community - Chinese Furry Shotacon artist and game developer behind Changed, the Furry EPI game responsible for minors getting exposed to transformation fetishism.

[Liberty Prime is life]

about the latex trio that @Scream Aim Fire mentioned, iirc, the "true" ending in the original version, mentioned there was a bio robot used by puro to assimilate, so I assume the one here is the bio robot? who knows. but that brings up a question, why do they have a bio robot in the first place? and why was it mentioned at the very end?

and about morally justified stuff mentioned, dr. K is painted as "anti-hero" in special edition, considering how he wants to "save the world" or something. but the way I see it, he comes off as nothing but really a poorly written character with badly executed motives.

there is also latex beasts who assimilate due to "instincts" and wanting to increase their life span (it's mentioned that they have really short life span without a host). now I'm not sure if my memory can serve me well but I've seen people saying that their "instincts" would go away and they'd have a full life once they assimilate a host. but I feel like this is not the case. one eaxmple I'm gonna use is the latex beast called "yuin" (according to wiki), where it's a whole mechanic is that it disguises itself as the checkpoint system being used to save the game, when colin gets close it, it assimilates like the rest.

however in one of the photosets, it shows how "yuin" was created and it showed that it assimilated someone before colin. so that would mean "yuin" wouldn't have to worry about short life span

Spoiler: hell

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so I have a feeling that they really don't have "instincts" and are really just selfish.

another thing about the justification stuff, in the changed wiki fandom. it tries to paint "tiger shark" as some misunderstood being according to the highlighted text.
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considering that the wiki is made by the fans, this one is likely written by a fan to justify the "tiger shark".

"He still desires to have Colin as another friend" : | something about this sentence indicates a part of instinct a lot of it is definitely more choice hell the only ones I could buy the instinct thing from is the white latexes the other ones it's more debatable if they are acting due to instinct or other reasons.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

latex trio

Question: where'd I mention a "latex trio"? Sorry, it's just that this game is killing my braincells the more I look at it.

but that brings up a question, why do they have a bio robot in the first place? and why was it mentioned at the very end?

It's implied that the "biorobot" that Puro assimilated is actually another human; it's confirmed that there were other frozen humans besides Colin in the building, so it's possible that either K or Puro took one and had the latter absorb it. Not sure, to be honest, and it's more of a Deus Ex Machina moment for Puro than anything.

and about morally justified stuff mentioned, dr. K is painted as "anti-hero" in special edition, considering how he wants to "save the world" or something. but the way I see it, he comes off as nothing but really a poorly written character with badly executed motives.

You got to remember that the original game didn't even have a plot, really; like I said, the OG lore made it clear that K and co. were all full of shit and the whole story was an excuse to watch Colin get raped. Colin, who may or may not have still had the mind of a literal toddler, knowing how the cryogenics bit works in that universe...

there is also latex beasts who assimilate due to "instincts" and wanting to increase their life span (it's mentioned that they have really short life span without a host). now I'm not sure if my memory can serve me well but I've seen people saying that their "instincts" would go away and they'd have a full life once they assimilate a host. but I feel like this is not the case.

I think that bit got retconned out, actually; the new/current lore makes it clear that the "dark" latex monsters like Puro only really need a host to avoid the regeneration cycle - apparently the darks have a crystal core that, eventually, has to enter a "stasis state" or something to recharge. Doing so tends to erase the minds/memories of the original monster, meaning that they're essentially born again; Puro's desperate to avoid it, since he's grown self-aware enough to realize that it would essentially "erase" his sense of self.

Conversely, the "light" monsters are confirmed to not actually need it; they never need to regenerate or any outside resources, they're just doing so because of creepy fetish reasons, essentially.

so I have a feeling that they really don't have "instincts" and are really just selfish.

Essentially, this; the darks have a reason, but the lights are just sex-obsessed animals.

That said, it's possible that there is still some "instinct" thing going on; given the whole cosmic horror bit going on, what with the original monsters all being universally hostile to humanity for whatever reason, it's possible that the current ones have picked up some of the original's misanthropy.

considering that the wiki is made by the fans, this one is likely written by a fan to justify the "tiger shark".

Reminds me of some of the shit I saw out of the FNAF fandom back in the day...

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

Can't blame you for saying it's killing your're braincells Changed is basically Dead space if the main group causing a lot of the events in the game was a group of dudes who want to enact their Deviantart or FA dream of getting transformed into a horror beyond their understanding on everyone and decided like the Unitologists from Dead space to cause their version of a Convergence event but instead of it involving bunching up a bunch of dead bodies it's first jumpstarting a virus and making sure all other cure options are useless or not gonna work so everyone has to be transformed by the group's Cure.

Probably won't be shocked if there is some Unitology like shit going on with Changed given how on Dragonsnow's FA he does appear to be a dead space fan.

Also what about the ones that ain't the Dark latex or the light ones are they pretty much doing that stuff for the same exact reason the light ones are?

 

[ItsLessThanNothing]

Question: where'd I mention a "latex trio"? Sorry, it's just that this game is killing my braincells the more I look at it.

was talking about this bit.

(Granted, that last bit might've officially gotten retconned; a recent update confirmed that they found a way to safely combine humans and latex monsters in a symbiote relationship, with there being an interactive bit where you get to play as a human doing some tests with a trio of monsters. That just raises further questions, though...)

sorry for confusion.

You got to remember that the original game didn't even have a plot, really; like I said, the OG lore made it clear that K and co. were all full of shit and the whole story was an excuse to watch Colin get raped. Colin, who may or may not have still had the mind of a literal toddler, knowing how the cryogenics bit works in that universe...

iirc, I saw a reddit comment states that colin was 23 before cryostasis, so he would likely be 28 with the 5 years time span. although this just doesn't change anything about colin, with his design and such, and I can't exactly tell where was the reddit comment from.

I'm not sure if this was retconned but I vaguely remember people stating that, the reason why latex beasts do assimilation in rather horny way, is because of "mimicry" or something along those lines.

Can't blame you for saying it's killing your're braincells Changed is basically Dead space if the main group causing a lot of the events in the game was a group of dudes who want to enact their Deviantart or FA dream of getting transformed into a horror beyond their understanding on everyone and decided like the Unitologists from Dead space to cause their version of a Convergence event but instead of it involving bunching up a bunch of dead bodies it's first jumpstarting a virus and making sure all other cure options are useless or not gonna work so everyone has to be transformed by the group's Cure.

Probably won't be shocked if there is some Unitology like shit going on with Changed given how on Dragonsnow's FA he does appear to be a dead space fan.

I always got the feeling that changed is dead space if you take everything that made the game good, and throw it out of the window.

Also what about the ones that ain't the Dark latex or the light ones are they pretty much doing that stuff for the same exact reason the light ones are?

I assume you're talking about the "variegated" ones? tiger shark and squid dog are the example. there is also the "non-latex" ones which are just normal furries iirc.

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

Yeah, the variegated ones(Tiger shark, Lion/Snow leopard one etc.)
Also do remember a Redditor specifically talking about mimicry and having two posts about that topic (can't find the other one but to sum it up, on the second one they basically would mimic sexual actions and potentially any other actions)

here's the other reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChangedFurry/s/DgaF9xUZSc

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Changed is basically Dead space if the main group causing a lot of the events in the game was a group of dudes who want to enact their Deviantart or FA dream

Pretty common for furries, unfortunately.

Probably won't be shocked if there is some Unitology like shit going on with Changed given how on Dragonsnow's FA he does appear to be a dead space fan.

Wouldn't surprise me if the plot was just a rip-off; furries aren't known for originality.

Also what about the ones that ain't the Dark latex or the light ones are they pretty much doing that stuff for the same exact reason the light ones are?

All the monsters are divided up into "light" or "dark" latex; darks are mostly black, while lights are basically any coloration. Think the Pureblood and Artificial Heartless from Kingdom Hearts.

was talking about this bit.

sorry for confusion.

Ah; yeah, those three - and the human that they were working with - were all forcefully transformed into Tail. Apparently, something went wrong during the testing, and all four of the unlucky bastards got combined into a single being... which, for some reason, didn't have the mind of any of them, and immediately became this violent monstrosity that wants to kill/rape/transfur everything.

iirc, I saw a reddit comment states that colin was 23 before cryostasis, so he would likely be 28 with the 5 years time span. although this just doesn't change anything about colin, with his design and such, and I can't exactly tell where was the reddit comment from.

You got to remember that Colin's original "stated" age was 15, before it got retconned. The really fucked up bit is that, since we don't know if he was 15 before or after the cryostasis period, it's implied that he was younger, around 10. In fact, I remember the stasis period being even longer, up to a decade; it's possible that Colin was originally around 5 years old when he got put under... and, judging from some of his personally traits, might still have the same mentality.

I'm not sure if this was retconned but I vaguely remember people stating that, the reason why latex beasts do assimilation in rather horny way, is because of "mimicry" or something along those lines.

Haven't heard of that, admittedly. Wait... does that imply that the scientists were using the monsters as sex dolls...?

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

"does that imply that the scientist were using the monsters as sex dolls" Given the kind of genre this game is tied to and the game having FA fetish story writing all over it some of them I bet they were getting off to said creatures and using them as a gooey version of a fleshlight so the scientist using them as sex dolls ain't that far off.

 

[younevershould]

it isnt that deep its just some shit dragonsnow threw together in minutes to fill changed's empty lore-shaped hole
this was done mainly so his loyal footsoldiers have something else to soypoint at (other than the abysmal gameplay and nonexistent character development) whenever they are manipulating normies into thinking the fetish is merely a secondary aspect of changed that can be ignored in favor of everything else the game has (nothing)

 

[ItsLessThanNothing]

Haven't heard of that, admittedly. Wait... does that imply that the scientists were using the monsters as sex dolls...?

considering there is people being inside some sort of vacuum bed in recent special edition content, and left hanging in there, it's likely that scientists used the latex beasts as sex dolls.

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

Smartest Take about Changed in a nutshell

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

View attachment 7116667Smartest Take about Changed in a nutshell

I think the original version of the game had a much less retarded plot... and that's saying something.

 

[ItsLessThanNothing]

here's the other reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChangedFurry/s/DgaF9xUZSc

Archive.

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

Now thinking about it did Dragonsnow even had people QA or test his game? (I don't mean yes men I mean like actually had people do the stuff I mentioned and explain it to him) since if he didn't that might also explain some of the issues with the game.

Or did he and his group pretty much just wing the whole game and assuming it would end well

 

[Maxwell Carter]

Or did he and his group pretty much just wing the whole game and assuming it would end well

I recall the credits mentioning a group of people that "tested" the game but I'm guessing what that meant was how well it could be used as porn while trying to """balance""" that so the "its not actual porn" excuse could be used

 

[Chrono Legion]

There's been a rise of slob/filth, torture, and snuff fetishism in the fandom for a while now, if you guys didn't notice.

I've noticed this. I thought it was mostly just my mind playing tricks on me, because the people who most strongly promote this tend to be repulsive troons that stink of feces and infection anyway. I think I remember that for vore fetishism in particular, it used to be divided into "Soft" and "Hard" which determined the focus and the fate of the victim. And then furries changed the definitions so BOTH result in snuff focus and the latter is just gory.

the descriptions make it VERY clear that penetration is occurring

Anyone who knew about how this latex TF shit goes even prior to Changed making it more popular, is cursed to never forget its shittiest cliches. And one of the biggest cliches is dildoes up the ass and in the mouth simultaneously.

that's not shocking given how Fetishes/Paraphilia's in the Furry Community are seen a lot more positively than in most fandoms and that in turn makes Changed a lot more likely to be viewed as a not bad thing

Furries just kind of fuck around like that. They're the kind of criminally irresponsible people that see absolutely nothing wrong with parading around in youtube comments with a vore avatar (Not even cropped) and getting off to the negative reactions while luring everyone else into wherever they're distributing porn. They'll pretend they care about children but they don't, they really don't. I should name and shame a particular one at some point (Eventually did), he's kind of pissed me off with his kumbaya talk as he EPIs people on youtube, plus he was a brony in 2013. I still never cracked the mystery of why bronies always got into hard vore shit, but I'm getting a bit off-topic.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

parading around in youtube comments with a vore avatar (Not even cropped) and getting off to the negative reactions while luring everyone else into wherever they're distributing porn.

I should name and shame a particular one at some point, he's kind of pissed me off with his kumbaya talk as he EPIs people on youtube, plus he was a brony in 2013. I still never cracked the mystery of why bronies always got into hard vore shit, but I'm getting a bit off-topic.

Does he by any chance use a Swampert avatar?

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

I've noticed this. I thought it was mostly just my mind playing tricks on me, because the people who most strongly promote this tend to be repulsive troons that stink of feces and infection anyway. I think I remember that for vore fetishism in particular, it used to be divided into "Soft" and "Hard" which determined the focus and the fate of the victim. And then furries changed the definitions so BOTH result in snuff focus and the latter is just gory.

Anyone who knew about how this latex TF shit goes even prior to Changed making it more popular, is cursed to never forget its shittiest cliches. And one of the biggest cliches is dildoes up the ass and in the mouth simultaneously.

Furries just kind of fuck around like that. They're the kind of criminally irresponsible people that see absolutely nothing wrong with parading around in youtube comments with a vore avatar (Not even cropped) and getting off to the negative reactions while luring everyone else into wherever they're distributing porn. They'll pretend they care about children but they don't, they really don't. I should name and shame a particular one at some point, he's kind of pissed me off with his kumbaya talk as he EPIs people on youtube, plus he was a brony in 2013. I still never cracked the mystery of why bronies always got into hard vore shit, but I'm getting a bit off-topic.

That Vore one definitely might be due to DeviantArt and probably a mix of furry stuff as aswell, hmmm forgot who made the tweet but what said reminds me of a tweet where furries are responsible or causing a lot of the issues in other fandoms specifically ones that involve Anthro animals

 

[Chrono Legion]

Does he by any chance use a Swampert avatar?

No, that's the guy who inspired him. But the Swampert guy is almost exactly like him but with less hollow kumbaya-talk. They're both pieces of shit, I might do a 2 for 1 in the general. (It's going into prospering grounds, the post is too big.) I'm talking about the Latias guy, he posts half-crops of his (all fatal) vore artwork to youtube, has an FA handle that he goes under and a reddit account that he lures youtubers to. He posts a lot of bullshit on his reddit and has some of the same bullshit in his youtube posts. I'm going to need to take a lot of screenshots...

Thread for that is up. Now we can get back to focusing on the main topic.

 

[ItsLessThanNothing]

I recall the credits mentioning a group of people that "tested" the game but I'm guessing what that meant was how well it could be used as porn while trying to """balance""" that so the "its not actual porn" excuse could be used

that probably explains why the game barely has good gameplay, none of the testers gave advice on how to make it better.

 

[Liberty Prime is life]

https://fixvx.com/RaccoonPolitic5/status/1901412342161670175?t=xHR0Gje40Bj5JhJCpPs90Q&s=19

Average Changed fan statement