DSP "real criticism" thread

[Bryan Dunn]

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In this thread u can talk about "real criticism".

No infighting, no arguing semantics, just focus on "real criticism" and if your post doesn't provide that then it'll be moved out.

Okay i'll take the bait Phil.

Here ya go,
What the fuck happened to bringing back Project 7? When you took everyones money and said it was on "Hiatus" you told people itll come back but just not at the moment. If thats the case, where the fuck is it? Dont even dismiss it as a "leave it in the past!! Kahmon!!!". I want you to explain why you refuse to try to do Project 7. Why you refuse to refund the people who backed specifically for Project 7. You stole that money for yourself with a "thanks for the money dummies!" Mentality.

Also, why do you refuse to do any time of community events like playing games with fans etc? The Trolls right? Uh huh. Why do you need to constantly have to talk about your private life and fuel these people further to continue to go on about you? Why not shut the fuck up? Why not learn from better Lets players like DansGaming, CohCarnage, ManvsGames, Lirik etc? Why not colab with these people? Why do you constantly have to be negative about prospects? Why do you need to plug in your fucking money shit every chance you get? Why do you treat your fans like shit and let them get doxed? Why do you have to act like a smug cunt and tell people how bad you got it yet you have two homes, a nice car, and living the dream job?

Can you just shut the fuck up for like 3 months and play games?

 

[wilji1090]

First, Phil needs to start by rethinking how he talks to the people who supported him because it's irritating how he talks to the people who essentially gave him the opportunity to have the job that he does. In simple terms, being a streamer is like working in customer service. The viewers are your customers and if you treat them like horseshit, then don't be surprised when they start saying "Don't watch this guy, he's a cunt." Word of mouth is a pretty damning thing and if you're a streamer, it can be the death knell of your career.

Second, ignore the "trolls" and the like because by talking constantly about the problems you're feeding them. I think we're all hip to the fact that DSP wouldn't have even been a blip on the radar if he had just brushed off the trolls or hell, even engaged in self-deprecating humor with them (take his about face with FapGate because it got him views as an example.). Phil could easily take the wind out of their sails by simply mocking himself, but I don't think he's even willing to do that at times because he thinks it hurts him somehow.

Third, be open to change. There's absolutely nothing wrong with changing up things to break out of conformity and what have you. Businesses, successful businesses, do this all the time. To use a Let's Player, let's use TearofGrace as an example. Some of his earliest videos consisted of Halo trolling but eventually he started incorporating editing into all of the videos he made until he's left with something that can be genuinely funny for his viewers. Tear doesn't upload with nearly the same consistency that Phil does, but the videos he does make get a lot of views because they're put together with time and care. Phil just pumps out videos like it's the fucking ACME factory and most of them consist of dead air while watching him grind over and over again in the same areas, complaining about the same enemies and dying the same ways over and over again.

Fourth, Accountability. President Truman once had a sign on his desk that said "The buck stops here" meaning that as President he was responsible for the doings of his government no matter what and that he had to take responsibility for everything that happened under his watch. The same applies with Phil Burnell. If Phil wants to find someone to blame for his dwindling views, constant hate, or his demonetization storm from YouTube then he needs to look in a mirror. Phil could easily staunch this by simply making a video entitled "I'm sorry" and just apologize for being a massive tool. It would do quite a bit I think, of course this would have to be followed up with an actual effort to change for the better.

Fifth. Stop making promises you can't/won't keep. Super Mario Sunshine is just another feather in Phil's hat of broken promises. Rage quitting Patrons' choice games is honestly something that annoys me more than anything because you got paid to play these games. I'd play Hello Kitty Fun Time Island adventure if I was getting $1000+ from Patreon to play it and I'd act like I fucking enjoyed it even if I wanted to die inside. If I made an audacious promise like Project 7 to people, then I'd work my damnedest to try and pull off something for it. If I couldn't? I'd give back the pledges because I failed to deliver a product that others invested in. I wouldn't pocket the money and say "There's nothing I could do." while giving a halfassed apology and telling people to downvote the video where you made the weak ass apology to begin with...

 

[CatParty]

it is real criticism that he is a fat fuck and should be worried about his health and diet

 

[724016a8cf]

I'm going to extend Phil a little more credit than most here, so bear that in mind.

Transparency and the articulation of crisis

If you're going to use personal crises as hooks for people to donate/sub to you, then you have to be transparent about it. You're in a situation that a number of content creators would envy: you have a small and dedicated fanbase that will give you money if you say you're in trouble (and, in many cases, even if you weren't): that is a bond and responsibility that you shouldn't take lightly. You can't simply say "oh, terrible things are happening" and expect a strong emotional response from anyone other than your core base.

Obviously this is more of a moral/perception consideration so it might not resonate too strongly, but transparency about your crises could actually help incentivise people who would otherwise sit on the fence to give you money. Receipts are important.

Prestreams

If you're going to do prestreams, shorten them. I wouldn't have an issue with a streamer whose personality I like stopping to have a chat about what's going on with them and generally engaging in good faith with their chat. If it's an hour of rambling about nothing and only addressing "negativity" it's a massive turn off from your core draw of "average gamer plays games." It might help to loosely script your prestreams, because it really feels like they're just off-the-cuff remarks strung together loosely than anything coherent.

Engage with your chat for reasons other than financial ones

I've only ever seen Phil speak back to chat when either 1) he wants some help with a game or 2) there's some controversy going on. Otherwise, it's only the tips, subs and cheers that get responded to. You're in a business that relies on you being personable when you're streaming for a living. Be personable; be amiable; be friendly - make people like you.

"I'm not going to address the drama"

Either expunge this phrase from your vocabulary or stop addressing "drama". Perhaps seeing things as ridiculous and as a joke rather than seeking to call anyone who deigns to disagree with you "mentally ill" would produce an environment that would be more conducive to the building of a community of fans other than those who would seek to be bound by the idea of 'us vs them'. People with a view of the world beyond "everyone's against me and my pal Phil" probably have more disposable income, just saying.

Of course, if Phil thinks the drama sustains him, there's no reason to ever change and I've just wasted my time writing this.

I've wasted my time writing this no matter what, but whatever.

 

[Xerxes IX]

He should play games he actually likes, even if he only likes them because they rake in the views and bits. It sounds like those cartoon sperg Youtubers going on about how MEAN SPIRITED things are, but it's not even entertaining to watch him bitch about the game and developers. Insulting things =/= immediate comedy, especially when he does things like go out of his way to shit on Troy Baker for wearing a scarf indoors. It doesn't do anything but make viewers think he's an unpleasant asshole.

That and the constant negativity is doing a number on his health. Sure he lost weight compared to how he looked back in CT, but he looks like a diseased thumb now.

 

[Crow]

How about actually trying to learn from different games he plays so that not every fucking new game he comes to is a foreign experience

Seriously, it's like he plays a 3rd person shooter and then when he plays a different one he has no intuition at all and doesn't even try stuff unless he's told by the game, like for fucks sake maybe actually realize that most games in the same series or even genre actually share a lot of similarities and fucking.. I dunno, use your intuition

Even though he has none.

 

[Tetra]

Be more open to change and don't be afraid or reluctant to try out new things.
You became successful in the first place because you jumped on the YouTube bandwagon and did lets plays closely to the start of the lets play boom.

Nowhere is this fear of change more shown with you adopting capture cards which took you years of fans asking you to do. People had to push you to the brink of bankruptcy for you to go back to twitch aswell.

So stop being stubborn and don't be afraid to try out a new thing, if it fails, well no big deal just go back to the old way, if it succeeds, you'll be richer and better.

Why did i even bother writing this.

 

[Dandelo]

perfectly willing to divide is fanbase by insulting a person/game that some of his fans like and dismissing as something for "idiots" or "children"


when called out on his bad behavior will insult and/or ban anyone who dares

when provided with questions advice or solutions will often act in a confrontational manner
(example: the direct capture Saga where he would occasionally insult people who where asking him to change to direct capture)

calls people who don't trust him on certain aspect "sheeps" despite demanding them to believe everything he says to the letter

 

[BrunoMattei]

Do the exact opposite of everything he's doing right now.

 

[Um Oh Ah Yeah]

He should make at least one in real life friend that he can go out and do things with, which will improve his mental health. He should also make one in real life friend (could even be the same person!) who is a little charismatic and could do co-op stuff with him.

 

[PoopMagnet]

Phil really should have made that teaser for Project 7 before he started making it a Patreon goal. I don't think he realized just the scope and effort he was going to need to do it and thought that he would just kinda wing it and it'll appease the fans. That was piss poor planing and that's why you always have a prototype/sample/pilot/"proof of concept" before selling the dream.

Besides, what was he expecting was going to happen? The guys that filmed and edited the original talked about ~60hrs of work a week for this shit and that's with a small crew of people. One dude was just going to jump in front of a green screen like a ninny (wink) and boom he'd have his khantent? Phil only see shit right in front of his nose, no foresight or planning.

I can't wait to see Phil 40+ years old, cranking out the same song and dance on his stream but with deteriorating or even worse health because he never goes to get check-ups, physicals, and certainly never gotten his gross mouth checked at the Dentist.

 

[Darksydepickle]

First, stop being a self-aggrandizing liar. You don´t have to admit to your previous lies, fine, you´ve this image to protect. Fine. But make a conscious effort to stop lying, or if you can´t contain yourself, stop talking about yourself, so that the need to embellish or twist the truth does´t come up.

Stop being an asshole. These people pay you money, so stop being a douchebag to them. If you want to call your detractors or even the kiwis mentally ill, that´s fine. But don´t be a douche to your patrons.

Speaking of patrons, don´t offer rewards you aren´t willing to fulfill, and don´t throw a fit if they complain about your shenanigans, like the Mario Sunshine playthrough. It´s your fault you´re such a shitty planner, your finances are proof of that.

Stop crying. A lot of people have personal issues, back problems, debt, what have you. Nobody cares. Actually, don´t. Keep whining, it makes for a good read.

 

[OneDaySon]

An easy one is for him to shut the fuck up. No "dear diary this happened to me today..." hour long prestreams. He tells us way too much, that way he's pointed out as a hypocrite and a liar and the "nuggets of truth" that have been "twisted" that he always complains about are recorded. If he just didn't say shit in his prestreams there's been very little ammo against him. Like that's 90% of the ammo against him gone. If he throws out his twitter and forums that's like 99% of the ammo gone. He hardly says anything in general during his games except "Oh look at that, look at this! bullshit! woowwww!"

As for rescuing his popularity, it's impossible, its too late he should have embraced being the shitty gamer guy back in 2013/2014 when he started to get noticed for that rather than reacting the way he did and thus creating the term detractors. The only games he gets views on now are games people think he'd struggle with like Dark Souls and then the views drop off as he tries to hard not to be that shitty gamer guy which he's known for.

 

[Aladdin_Insane]

Stop burping onstream. It's disgusting and makes him seem completely unprofessional.

 

[Sadge-itarius]

Writing this as more of an open letter to him.

Phil, if there's one thing I legitimately think you should stop doing, it's those horrid phrases you say every stream, sometimes every few sentences.

"That's the God's honest truth." "I'll be honest with you, folks." "I'm being honest when I say this."

Not only are these phrases repetitive and dull, but saying them so frequently is an indicattor that either:

1. You're not being honest with whatever you say after the prefacing statements, because someone who says it that often is clearly disingenuous.
2. The fact that you use these phrases so often show that you feel some sort of repressed guilt about lying, and the phrases are a verbal and behavioral tic that allows you to cope with the guilt.

Sincerely consider this, because it makes you sound suspicious and untrustworthy. If you have to tell someone that you're not lying to them, everything you say will seem like a lie.

 

[James Smith]

Snorting is the #1 reason I cannot watch DSP streams, even if there's drama I really want to hear about. Get some fucking nasal strips. You'll look goofy wearing them but you'll be tolerable.

Or at least reduce your mic sensitivity so that when you snort that mucous into the back of your throat I can't hear you fucking gulping to swallow it. 1000 times worse than the snorting, once you've heard it you can't unhear it ever time.

 

[Space.Muffin]

>I'm willing to listen to real criticism.
The fact that there's a whole sub-forum for him proves the contrary.

One of the biggest thing I think he should work is the way he interacts with people. Fans or not, people try to contact him or advice him about stuff in the most neutral ways possible. But Phil is the kind of person that skims through the message, find specific keywords, ignores the whole argument and goes straight to insults. If you read his tweets most of them have an attack at the person talking. "Dumb", "Idiot", "Bullshit", "Retarded", you name it. Phil just can not interact with another human being without insulting them.

He won't call his fans "Hate Army" because it insults their intelligence, so he insults them personally unless they pay him.

 

[Kosher Dill]

He should play games he actually likes

He should do anything he actually likes. People are more fun to listen to when they're talking about something they're interested in and knowledgeable about.

 

[Sparkletor]

There is no need to wear a cowboy hat for ask the king. No king has worn a cowboy hat. Are you mistaking the "duke" (John Wayne) with the "king" (Elvis)?

 

[StylishAcolyte]

People want him to become a better person, i don't see how this would happen in any way shape or form at this point.

Honestly? In a business sense? I'd tell him to keep doing what he is doing, he literally amassed a lot of money by just begging to strangers and crying wolf. He gets to play games, he gets to have his luxuries and his fans are none the wiser. What else could you ask for in the situation he finds himself in?

He is never going to change, and even if he tried i legitimately think it would hurt his business at this point and really get him in trouble. People lose their money to stupid things everyday, i'm not trying to justify his shitty behavior with his fans, but hey, a fool and their money are easily parted and they are partially if not fully responsible of what they do with it. Phil saw a market and, albeit unintentionally, took full advantage of it.

Despite the amount of money he can make, he is surviving now, he has no retirement plans for the future and, although i'm sure he will try, he can't stream forever. If some higher power wants to smite him and his Twitch channel then so be it, if he continues streaming and finds success so be it too. I don't want him to change because that wouldn't be him, he is a lolcow and we are the ones staring behind the glass at the end of the day.