DuckDuckGo has blocked Kiwi Farms

[Puff]

Damn. Three pages of references to the farms and no link. That's shitty.

 

[Grant McClellan]

Good!. This toxic forum where the n word and f word (ths other f word) are freely used needs to be blocked everywhere

 

[CakeCutey]

Aw come on. I thought they were against censorship.

 

[Pham]

Some people on twitter are claiming bing now shows a disclaimer stating why it was removed. I can't see it, though. Can anyone else? Post it, plox.

 

[Brundlefly]

I don't think you need a huge office if you're just gonna piggyback on someone else's results and tweak the algorithm a little to make it look like you're different (at least, that's how I assume DDG operates). It's actually pretty smart of them to save on operating costs and pocket the cash. What's not smart is succumbing to requests for censorship. They pretty much nixed what their supposed unique selling point is.

If that's the case, then maybe DDG was not directly responsible themselves, and one of their sources did the ban.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Some people on twitter are claiming bing now shows a disclaimer stating why it was removed. I can't see it, though. Can anyone else? Post it, plox.

I see a link at the bottom of the first page saying "Some results have been removed". It links to this page, which doesn't explain what exactly was removed or why.

 

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I think we're jumping to conclusions too fast. This may be all sorts of technical issues like some database items being discarded due to old age and the crawler not getting around to reindexing them, or all sorts of trouble with distributed database/CDNs not syncing up properly, just software and networking bugs in general.

I'm not ready to knee-jerk to the conclusion that a big search engine dropped their entire ethos and promise over KF. Give it a week and if the issue doesn't resolve itself, I'll happily join the "DDG bad" circlejerk but let's not dismiss the site straight away.

Did you read where Null pointed out that Bing and Qwant are also collaborating with whatever attacker is behind this?

Obviously, it is especially egregious that DDG, which PRETENDS to be acting in a decent manner, is going along with this. But it is also important to identify who the terrorist behind this attack is.

I have tried a few searches on Google for Yaniv, Tooter, a certain memelord with great taste in music and more guns than Doomguy, Mumkey and Liu. At present Google is still returning results for those threads. If that changes it could be indicative of who is at fault here.

 

[Lithos]

As a last resort, maybe rebranding? Works for some people.

 

[Mike Hunt]

If that's the case, then maybe DDG was not directly responsible themselves, and one of their sources did the ban.

This thread moves so fast that I didn't manage to catch the post of @Spasticus Autisticus a few posts above mine. The post mentions that DDG gets its results from some other provider, so yeah, that could be the case, too.

 

[Distant Stare]

Press S to spit on grave

Just switched search engines

 

[774]

This is certainly concerning. But I say give it a little while, and see how things are then. It should become easier to tell whether it was just a glitch or some actual censorship.

 

[Xyllon]

I believe the reason for this is that it (and Qwant) pulls heavily from Bing, so being delisted from there would also delist from DDG. If you set your region to Russia, it pulls heavily from Yandex instead and it will appear.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

FuckFuckNo

Screw this search engine.

 

[Ozzigy Osbourne]

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Ironic fucking popup there DDG. Also tfw I don't even use chrome but it still wants me to install their shitty search stuff into Brave.

Apparently DDG's founder has a shady history, and they have never been nearly transparent enough to back up their privacy claims. I wouldn't be surprised if, now that they're getting more aggressive about disregarding their mission statement, it comes out soon that they've been harvesting and selling user data all along.

I believe the reason for this is that it (and Qwant) pulls heavily from Bing, so being delisted from there would also delist from DDG. If you set your region to Russia, it pulls heavily from Yandex instead and it will appear.

As sketchy as DDG can be it does sound a lot more likely that it's just a result of some turbocucked company like MS pulling the strings somewhere further up the line.

 

[Cloacan]

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If I remove the '&t=ffab' token from the DDG URL I get KF as first result, otherwise no relevant results. Oddly, that only works if Safesearch is set to Moderate.

Actually, just removing %t string from URL gets me relevant first result, or using '&t=h_'.

DuckDuckGo URL Parameters

URL parameters you can use to change DuckDuckGo settings.

duckduckgo.com

t = A string to identify the source. See this help page for more info.

https://help.duckduckgo.com/privacy/t/

Through partnerships with developers and companies, DuckDuckGo has been integrated into many applications. In these partnerships, a portion of DuckDuckGo's advertising revenue is sometimes shared back. To assign advertising revenue and collect anonymous aggregate usage information, developers add a unique "&t=" parameter to searches made through their applications.

Searches
When searching, using the search bar, the address bar or the startpage, sometimes the browser will be added as a parameter. For share revenue purposes. However, this can be used for tracking purposes also. To disable that parameter go to this folder and comment out the parameters
<Param name="q" value="{searchTerms}"/>
<MozParam name="t" condition="purpose" purpose="contextmenu" value="ffcm"/>
<MozParam name="t" condition="purpose" purpose="keyword" value="ffab"/>
<MozParam name="t" condition="purpose" purpose="searchbar" value="ffsb"/>
<MozParam name="t" condition="purpose" purpose="homepage" value="ffhp"/>
<MozParam name="t" condition="purpose" purpose="newtab" value="ffnt"/>
</Url>

For Firefox at least that explains those. DUnno why identifying as Firefox blocks KF as first result? Tried in Chrome and Edge, same results: remove Firefox identifier, get quality results.

edit: like what someone said earlier, maybe its a propagation issue? some &t values have the updated Bing block, some are still living the past?

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

Fun thing to note, you can change your region on the DDG page (at least on mobile). In some of them the site shows up.

Edit: it's interesting that if you do the same changing region thing on Bing the results are NOT the same.

 

[uncleShitHeel]

Yandex it is then.

The people who run these tech companies really dont think long term do they.

 

[Samoyed]

I didn't like DDG anyways.

 

[sophnar0747]

Welp, time to change my default browser to something that doesn't quack under pressure.


Edit - This pun will be the reason ya'll make a thread about me.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

Welp, time to change my default browser to something that doesn't quack under pressure.


Edit - This pun will be the reason ya'll make a thread about me.

Don't worry, you'll take to lolcowdom like a duck to water.