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...okay, guys, so I'm wrting part 12, right?
It feels like I've just started, and the part's already at over half the character limit, and I've tried to summarise some things as much as possible.
I'm afraid I'll have to, like, split it into three subparts.
It feels like I've just started, and the part's already at over half the character limit, and I've tried to summarise some things as much as possible.
I'm afraid I'll have to, like, split it into three subparts.
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WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilation post with links to all the sections later down the line.
So...it has come to this.
Part 12.
The part I've waited so long to be able to properly cover.
This is also, unfortunately, reflected in the fact that I've had to split this one part into two/three (not sure how much yet)...in a subsection that I've already had to split into three parts before!
They're all gonna be part 12 tho, fuck the numbering system.
Last part, we're finished discussing Ellen's online activity and most of the surface level information about her.
These next five parts are all gonna focus on the more buried info, things Ellen wouldn't want you to randomly stumble upon...and things almost no one has ever bothered to see before...
Only two more symptoms of Ellen's ASPD too, callous and unemotional traits, and feelings of contempt.
This part, we're gonna begin analysis of the former, starting with Ellen's past relationships, current relationship with Jeff, their kids, and the dire ways in which all of this has deeply traumatised her, to the extent of fundamentally not being able to understand what consent even means.
If you're to read any part of this psycho analysis, read this one. The information within may fundamentally change how you view both Ellen and Jeff, their true motives, traumas and motivations.
...oh, but, first, we're gonna have to listen to some shitty music, so prepare yourselves for that.
Part 12 will continue soon...
So...it has come to this.
Part 12.
The part I've waited so long to be able to properly cover.
This is also, unfortunately, reflected in the fact that I've had to split this one part into two/three (not sure how much yet)...in a subsection that I've already had to split into three parts before!
They're all gonna be part 12 tho, fuck the numbering system.
Last part, we're finished discussing Ellen's online activity and most of the surface level information about her.
These next five parts are all gonna focus on the more buried info, things Ellen wouldn't want you to randomly stumble upon...and things almost no one has ever bothered to see before...
Only two more symptoms of Ellen's ASPD too, callous and unemotional traits, and feelings of contempt.
This part, we're gonna begin analysis of the former, starting with Ellen's past relationships, current relationship with Jeff, their kids, and the dire ways in which all of this has deeply traumatised her, to the extent of fundamentally not being able to understand what consent even means.
If you're to read any part of this psycho analysis, read this one. The information within may fundamentally change how you view both Ellen and Jeff, their true motives, traumas and motivations.
...oh, but, first, we're gonna have to listen to some shitty music, so prepare yourselves for that.
From Wikipedia,
During her 40 year long life, she has displayed many cases of disregard for others, lack of empathy and limited range of emotion. Some of which, we've discussed. After all, using your children as advertisement for your porn or doxxing a teenager for calling your content unfunny is not really something an average person would do.
However, to see just how deeply they have affected everyone around her, including her closest family and her best friends, we'll have to look beyond her usual internet activity and look at the content of Ellen which, unlike her r/comics posts or Threads ragebaiting getting millions of views, have attained only thousands of views, if not mere hundreds.
At the end, we'll also discuss Ellen's lazyness, and how little care she has for the only group of people whom she has any care for at all...her fans.
But, first, we'll have to actually step away from Ellen for a bit and focus on her (current, wink, wink, nujdge, nudge) husband and some of his internet activity, including his Gorillaz ripoff band.
Whilst a bit controversial and primarly observed in adolescents, Ellen definitely exhibits these CU traits.
During her 40 year long life, she has displayed many cases of disregard for others, lack of empathy and limited range of emotion. Some of which, we've discussed. After all, using your children as advertisement for your porn or doxxing a teenager for calling your content unfunny is not really something an average person would do.
However, to see just how deeply they have affected everyone around her, including her closest family and her best friends, we'll have to look beyond her usual internet activity and look at the content of Ellen which, unlike her r/comics posts or Threads ragebaiting getting millions of views, have attained only thousands of views, if not mere hundreds.
At the end, we'll also discuss Ellen's lazyness, and how little care she has for the only group of people whom she has any care for at all...her fans.
But, first, we'll have to actually step away from Ellen for a bit and focus on her (current, wink, wink, nujdge, nudge) husband and some of his internet activity, including his Gorillaz ripoff band.
Via Ellen's now-private Facebook, the snarkers found Jeff's Facebook.
(archive)
Besides several pictures, including one from Iceland,
(archive)
several wedding pics,
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3)
and a matching cosplay to the one Ellen released on her Patreon on Halloween,
(archive)
(link) (archive) (kemono)
there's also a link to a Youtube Music video of a song "Artificial Sun" by "Despite The Virus", and a mention of a popular song of his, "Party Girl"...
Back then, the snarkers considered it a small Jeff side project, not worthy of consideration, especially as they didn't neccessairly want to harass Ellen's family.
Let's pretend I haven't already done all the research on this whole project and try to look up some more information about them, shall we?
...after digging through several various platforms with nothing much of note, we've stumbled upon Reverbnation...
(archive)
Oh, so this is this "Party Girl" Jeff mentioned in that Facebook post?
...I...uhhh...am intrigued.
Anyway, let's copy this link to a new tab and, instead, go into the website proper.
There's an About Me here...There we go!
So, Despite The Virus was seemingly a co-op project between Ellen and Jeff, started in 2010, with some Toronto producer.
Besides a list of artists Jell had ripped off-I mean, "followed the likes of", there's also a mention of an album called "Followed by Nothing" and a single called "Followed By Silence", their debut single.
...y'know what, since this seems to be their old passion project, something inconsequencial to the grander scheme of things, why don't we just listen to this song, Party Girl, chill, have some fun, then we'll move on with the psycho analysis?
Alright, here's the link.
9 million views! That's impressive!
The comments are positive.
Let's listen to it together!
...
...
...
...uhhh, what's up with the blackout drunk women?
...is that Ellen singing "I'm your party girl"?
...and why are the lyrics...
...so...
...so...
...rape-y?
...yeahhhh, if that's the caliber of songs Ellen and Jeff write, we're gonna have to analyse them all, don't we?
With the final song on Jeffypop11 Youtube channel analysed, I'd move on to another set of songs, from other platforms...but there's one more thing of note on this channel, which I've briefly touched upon in the following Kiwi Farms post, but which will need a more comprehensive analysis.
(archive)
Besides several pictures, including one from Iceland,
(archive)
several wedding pics,
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3)
and a matching cosplay to the one Ellen released on her Patreon on Halloween,
(archive)
(link) (archive) (kemono)
there's also a link to a Youtube Music video of a song "Artificial Sun" by "Despite The Virus", and a mention of a popular song of his, "Party Girl"...
Back then, the snarkers considered it a small Jeff side project, not worthy of consideration, especially as they didn't neccessairly want to harass Ellen's family.
Let's pretend I haven't already done all the research on this whole project and try to look up some more information about them, shall we?
...after digging through several various platforms with nothing much of note, we've stumbled upon Reverbnation...
(archive)
Oh, so this is this "Party Girl" Jeff mentioned in that Facebook post?
...I...uhhh...am intrigued.
Anyway, let's copy this link to a new tab and, instead, go into the website proper.
There's an About Me here...There we go!
So, Despite The Virus was seemingly a co-op project between Ellen and Jeff, started in 2010, with some Toronto producer.
Besides a list of artists Jell had ripped off-I mean, "followed the likes of", there's also a mention of an album called "Followed by Nothing" and a single called "Followed By Silence", their debut single.
...y'know what, since this seems to be their old passion project, something inconsequencial to the grander scheme of things, why don't we just listen to this song, Party Girl, chill, have some fun, then we'll move on with the psycho analysis?
Alright, here's the link.
The comments are positive.
Let's listen to it together!
...
...
...
...uhhh, what's up with the blackout drunk women?
...is that Ellen singing "I'm your party girl"?
...and why are the lyrics...
...so...
...so...
...rape-y?
...yeahhhh, if that's the caliber of songs Ellen and Jeff write, we're gonna have to analyse them all, don't we?
From now on, the format of this section will be as follows.
- the link to the song, with some relevant context
- the lyrics to the song, which, due to Jeff's incompetence, me and my co-researcher had to painstakingly transcribe ourselves
- analysis of the song, bringing up all the relevant context from their real life, and what can we learn of the two from it.
Let's begin then with some miscellaneous information about this song.
Besides the initial upload from August of 2010, this particular song had a multitude of rereleases, including one on Despite The Virus's "official" channel as opposed to Jeff's private one (which, strangely, has been used less than the private one),
where it features this thumbnail, drawn by Ellen,
as well as a rerelease from 2025, released on places like Spotify, Apple Music or Youtube Music, which has...this thumbnail.
We'll get to its significance after we go over the lyrics.
Speaking of those, all versions after the initial upload, for one reason or another, omit the "Don't drink, don't drink" sample. I'd normally say it's due to copyright, but that doesn't seem to be the case with a lot of other tracks, like the next one we're gonna get to.
Also of note, after reading through this section, my co-researcher found the following two comments.
I suspected it was someone else because these two parts didn't sound like they were sang by the same person, but it's good to have confirmation.
Let's get to the song and its lyrics then, shall we?
Party Girl
Feel the vibration, feel the sensation
Feel the vibration, feel the sensation
(Don't drink, don't drink)
(I'm your party girl~) / Ellen line
Stomach pains (pains)
Your insides twist (-sides twist)
Like feeling sick on acid trip (trip)
Bloodshot eyes (eyes)
Can't stop the twitch (twitch)
(Don't drink, don't drink)
I grab your hips, you suck my lips (lips)
You're my little party girl (party girl)
These beats betrayed you
Spin and twirl (spin and twirl)
Take another golden pill, It's always just one more
(Don't drink, don't drink)
(I'm your party girl~)
(You wanted to come to the party (party)
but now that the party started (started)
you actin' foolish, crazy (crazy, crazy)
and you done puked in the garbage
and, look, your hair's a mess
matter of fact, your dress is too
I can't believe you tryna put a few more pils in you
(just know that now) girl, you should take a hint
maybe listen up (maybe, but you don't listen)
party girl means party, not a party slut
I ain't here to babysit while your mind's taking trips (trips)
I'm here to have a good time, maybe have a sip) / DJ T-dot lines
She done puff (done puff)
Stuck in a trance (a trance)
While she's convulsed in hip new dance (new dance)
You're my little party girl (party girl)
These beats betrayed you
(Don't drink, don't drink)
Take another golden pill, It's always just one more
(I'm your party girl)
My party girl (girl)
Party girl (party girl)
(Don't drink, don't drink)
Starting off strong, are we?
Remember, these lyrics are Ellen approved. She bloody sings in these and drew art for it, if she didn't outright write some of the lyrics like in the other songs!
Considering the meaning here is straightforward, let's get talking about Ellen's drug addiction first, before the...frankly, terryfing stuff.
One could make an argument for these lyrics all being made up and not relating to anything in real life...but, especially with what we'll see with the later songs, it'll become apparently obvious that this is all coming directly from Ellen's and Jeff's experience.
This includes all the drug stuff, which Ellen, as a person with ASPD, is a lot more succeptible to than a normal human.
One of the first things she got addicted to was alcohol, at the age of 15...
Yeah...we'll go back to this a few times, it's kinda heavy.
She talked about it, and a few other addictions, on her sexyhangnail account, back in 2016.
One thing, however, that ties it into Party Girl nicely, is this reply, which, bar irresponsible parenting, also shows us that she has pics of piss drurk wrecks saved on her phone.
...yeah, the blackout drunk women in the video are something that Jeff (or Ellen) seem to have saved up on, for...some reason.
Gee, I wonder why!
She also brought up these teenager years in the "Nineteen" comic.
(archive)
Whilst there's been no definite proof of Ellen still being addicted to drinking, several comics of hers seem to confirm it.
(archive 1) (archive 2)
A video she uploaded to her Discord in late December of last year of her doing a dumb TikTok challenge also shows her noticeably drunk, but that might also just be because of the hockey night.
Then, smoking, something she also brought up in that sexyhangnail comment.
She has actually made two big posts about it.
First has been a vent about her inability to quit smoking for good.
Here, she writes that she quit smoking while pregnant.
While there's a big problem with that statement we'll get to later (and which I've teased in the last part), we'll get to that when we'll analyze Artificial Sun). the following replies were even worse on that front.
Despite Ellen trying to quit smoking, Jeff still continued to smoke around her.
Besides passive smoking, which might have contributed to the mental conditions of both of their kids, there's also simply just the fact that Jeff did so around a recovering addict...which is just vile.
The second post is this one, where she asked people whether smoking or obesity was worse...probably wanting to feel better about herself.
Her last mention of smoking on that account is this reply, which, besides the whole "If quitting smoking is so easy, why did you keep returning to it?", seems to imply that Ellen stopped smoking for good.
However, when she compared compared smoking tobacco to smoking marihuana, she claimed that weed is a lot more dangerous, while proving to us that she has, quite literally, taken up on every drug that was offered to her as a child.
In this post, which I've shown you before to highlight her true political alignement, she treats weed with contempt, as something used to "solve problems".
While not neccessairly a drug addiction, it's still an addiction I wanna point out, and something we have little evidence of.
Namely, gambling.
For her 26th birthday, she intended to take her friends to a casino.
10/10 mentality.
There's also this comic, about horsebetting.
(archive)
In addition to the new thumbnail showing what appears to be a crack pipe, and the song talking about an inhalable drug (she done puff), the lyrics namedrop two more drugs, namely, acid and ecstasy (referred to as "golden pill"), and I'm gonna focus on the latter.
From Wikipedia,
Let's see what Ellen has to say about that, shall we?
Like a proper human being should, Ellen views this as rape, and something truly sickening to defend.
...so, like, why did Ellen coauthor a song about that exact scenario, pushed heavily by Jeff to this very day?
I feel like this is the proper time to get talking about the whole rape thing.
So, recently, Ellen had a week long manic episode over on Threads.
Every day, she would spend 12 to 15 hours straight ranting about male rapists.
As making a full summary of just this episode would probably fill out half of this post, which I'll probably need to split up anyway, I'll just link you to my summary posts on the subject (Yes, seven posts, that's how long she did it for) and give you a TLDR of the situation.
In short, it started with this reply to a very popular Threads post about dismissing women coming out with their experiences of sexual abuse.
She has managed to turn it into a total of eight (yes, eight) Threads posts,
as well as a comic,
all in a span of just four days.
This was much helped by the two other events that got pretty popular in Ellen's circles, the Katy Perry rape accusations, and the "rape academy", which some of the posts bring up.
For this section, I'll mainly focus on her comments on the last one, the "rape academy", which she learned from this very popular tweet.
Some of her comments relating to this drama are absolute comedy, considering the contents of the song.
As you also probably saw in the eight posts of Ellen, as well you'll see in some of the replies of Ellen I'm gonna show you now, she has taken this insanely personally, starting a war with every single person who dared provide correct statistics, calling every person who did so "a member of the academy"
Ohohohoh.
Hell, she even advocated for doxxing every single one of those 62 million men that come up between all of these posts.
So...let's go into the article and get the correct info, since Ellen is definitely not gonna provide us with it.
(archive)
In short, a group of around a thousand organised rapists used Telegram and Motherless to distribute rape porn of their partners.
The 62 million figure refers to the amount of monthly views of Motherless...which, by itself, is not particularly relevant. The videos are primarly distributed amongst the members of the group, consisting of 0,1% of the site's content and getting, at max, 50K views.
In fact, including this correct number would be a lot better for the cause, as a thousand actual rapists is a lot easier to jail (which, some of them, already are) and a lot more...wait...
...uhhhh...
Didn't we stumble upon something like this when we were listening to the song?
WE SURE DID!
Whilst Ellen has been raging on and on about all men being evil rapists and needing to doxx 62 million men, she has convieniently ignored the fact that she, quite literally, married a guy who fetishises this exact type of rape.
Hell, considering that Ellen is the one who sings the "I'm your party girl" lyric, and that, as we have learned, Ellen has a track record of rape and drug abuse...and being drugged and raped...it's very likely that Jeff had actually raped her as well.
Considering how defensive Ellen got when someone suggested Jeff might have raped her...it's extra valid.
Gee, no wonder why a recent (seemingly, the only only non made-up one) death threat she recieved wasn't even about her work being bad, or any of her child endangerement, or her porn activity, it was that she is a rape supporter!
(archive)
And she wonders why people call her that...
And, yeah, the death threat seems to be legit. The guy seems to primarly post far right war propaganda. I'm so pissed that Ellen recieves death threats, especially as I never wished her any harm...but I'm also pissed that Ellen treats this the exact same way she treats people criticising her work, or "oh go cry about it".
I sure hope the next song we'll cover will be less heavy...did I jinx it?
I jinxed it, didn't I?
- the link to the song, with some relevant context
- the lyrics to the song, which, due to Jeff's incompetence, me and my co-researcher had to painstakingly transcribe ourselves
- analysis of the song, bringing up all the relevant context from their real life, and what can we learn of the two from it.
Let's begin then with some miscellaneous information about this song.
Besides the initial upload from August of 2010, this particular song had a multitude of rereleases, including one on Despite The Virus's "official" channel as opposed to Jeff's private one (which, strangely, has been used less than the private one),
where it features this thumbnail, drawn by Ellen,
as well as a rerelease from 2025, released on places like Spotify, Apple Music or Youtube Music, which has...this thumbnail.
We'll get to its significance after we go over the lyrics.
Speaking of those, all versions after the initial upload, for one reason or another, omit the "Don't drink, don't drink" sample. I'd normally say it's due to copyright, but that doesn't seem to be the case with a lot of other tracks, like the next one we're gonna get to.
Also of note, after reading through this section, my co-researcher found the following two comments.
I suspected it was someone else because these two parts didn't sound like they were sang by the same person, but it's good to have confirmation.
Let's get to the song and its lyrics then, shall we?
Party Girl
Feel the vibration, feel the sensation
Feel the vibration, feel the sensation
(Don't drink, don't drink)
(I'm your party girl~) / Ellen line
Stomach pains (pains)
Your insides twist (-sides twist)
Like feeling sick on acid trip (trip)
Bloodshot eyes (eyes)
Can't stop the twitch (twitch)
(Don't drink, don't drink)
I grab your hips, you suck my lips (lips)
You're my little party girl (party girl)
These beats betrayed you
Spin and twirl (spin and twirl)
Take another golden pill, It's always just one more
(Don't drink, don't drink)
(I'm your party girl~)
(You wanted to come to the party (party)
but now that the party started (started)
you actin' foolish, crazy (crazy, crazy)
and you done puked in the garbage
and, look, your hair's a mess
matter of fact, your dress is too
I can't believe you tryna put a few more pils in you
(just know that now) girl, you should take a hint
maybe listen up (maybe, but you don't listen)
party girl means party, not a party slut
I ain't here to babysit while your mind's taking trips (trips)
I'm here to have a good time, maybe have a sip) / DJ T-dot lines
She done puff (done puff)
Stuck in a trance (a trance)
While she's convulsed in hip new dance (new dance)
You're my little party girl (party girl)
These beats betrayed you
(Don't drink, don't drink)
Take another golden pill, It's always just one more
(I'm your party girl)
My party girl (girl)
Party girl (party girl)
(Don't drink, don't drink)
Starting off strong, are we?
Remember, these lyrics are Ellen approved. She bloody sings in these and drew art for it, if she didn't outright write some of the lyrics like in the other songs!
Considering the meaning here is straightforward, let's get talking about Ellen's drug addiction first, before the...frankly, terryfing stuff.
One could make an argument for these lyrics all being made up and not relating to anything in real life...but, especially with what we'll see with the later songs, it'll become apparently obvious that this is all coming directly from Ellen's and Jeff's experience.
This includes all the drug stuff, which Ellen, as a person with ASPD, is a lot more succeptible to than a normal human.
Ellen fits all of this to a tea.
One of the first things she got addicted to was alcohol, at the age of 15...
Yeah...we'll go back to this a few times, it's kinda heavy.
She talked about it, and a few other addictions, on her sexyhangnail account, back in 2016.
One thing, however, that ties it into Party Girl nicely, is this reply, which, bar irresponsible parenting, also shows us that she has pics of piss drurk wrecks saved on her phone.
...yeah, the blackout drunk women in the video are something that Jeff (or Ellen) seem to have saved up on, for...some reason.
Gee, I wonder why!
She also brought up these teenager years in the "Nineteen" comic.
(archive)
Whilst there's been no definite proof of Ellen still being addicted to drinking, several comics of hers seem to confirm it.
(archive 1) (archive 2)
A video she uploaded to her Discord in late December of last year of her doing a dumb TikTok challenge also shows her noticeably drunk, but that might also just be because of the hockey night.
Then, smoking, something she also brought up in that sexyhangnail comment.
She has actually made two big posts about it.
First has been a vent about her inability to quit smoking for good.
Here, she writes that she quit smoking while pregnant.
While there's a big problem with that statement we'll get to later (and which I've teased in the last part), we'll get to that when we'll analyze Artificial Sun). the following replies were even worse on that front.
Despite Ellen trying to quit smoking, Jeff still continued to smoke around her.
Besides passive smoking, which might have contributed to the mental conditions of both of their kids, there's also simply just the fact that Jeff did so around a recovering addict...which is just vile.
The second post is this one, where she asked people whether smoking or obesity was worse...probably wanting to feel better about herself.
Her last mention of smoking on that account is this reply, which, besides the whole "If quitting smoking is so easy, why did you keep returning to it?", seems to imply that Ellen stopped smoking for good.
However, when she compared compared smoking tobacco to smoking marihuana, she claimed that weed is a lot more dangerous, while proving to us that she has, quite literally, taken up on every drug that was offered to her as a child.
In this post, which I've shown you before to highlight her true political alignement, she treats weed with contempt, as something used to "solve problems".
While not neccessairly a drug addiction, it's still an addiction I wanna point out, and something we have little evidence of.
Namely, gambling.
For her 26th birthday, she intended to take her friends to a casino.
10/10 mentality.
There's also this comic, about horsebetting.
(archive)
In addition to the new thumbnail showing what appears to be a crack pipe, and the song talking about an inhalable drug (she done puff), the lyrics namedrop two more drugs, namely, acid and ecstasy (referred to as "golden pill"), and I'm gonna focus on the latter.
From Wikipedia,
The song describes a variety of symptoms not specific to ecstasy, which implies a larger variety of drugs being ingested by...presumably Ellen, who's the "party girl" in this. I'm gonna hold off from conclusively stating that the songs are direct recounts of events of the two, but keep that in mind for later. If that's the case, however, this would mean that Jeff has drugged Ellen with ecstasy and raped her ("I grab your hips, you suck my lips", as well as "Party girl means party, not a party slut").
Let's see what Ellen has to say about that, shall we?
Like a proper human being should, Ellen views this as rape, and something truly sickening to defend.
...so, like, why did Ellen coauthor a song about that exact scenario, pushed heavily by Jeff to this very day?
I feel like this is the proper time to get talking about the whole rape thing.
So, recently, Ellen had a week long manic episode over on Threads.
Every day, she would spend 12 to 15 hours straight ranting about male rapists.
As making a full summary of just this episode would probably fill out half of this post, which I'll probably need to split up anyway, I'll just link you to my summary posts on the subject (Yes, seven posts, that's how long she did it for) and give you a TLDR of the situation.
In short, it started with this reply to a very popular Threads post about dismissing women coming out with their experiences of sexual abuse.
She has managed to turn it into a total of eight (yes, eight) Threads posts,
as well as a comic,
all in a span of just four days.
This was much helped by the two other events that got pretty popular in Ellen's circles, the Katy Perry rape accusations, and the "rape academy", which some of the posts bring up.
For this section, I'll mainly focus on her comments on the last one, the "rape academy", which she learned from this very popular tweet.
Some of her comments relating to this drama are absolute comedy, considering the contents of the song.
As you also probably saw in the eight posts of Ellen, as well you'll see in some of the replies of Ellen I'm gonna show you now, she has taken this insanely personally, starting a war with every single person who dared provide correct statistics, calling every person who did so "a member of the academy"
Ohohohoh.
Hell, she even advocated for doxxing every single one of those 62 million men that come up between all of these posts.
So...let's go into the article and get the correct info, since Ellen is definitely not gonna provide us with it.
(archive)
In short, a group of around a thousand organised rapists used Telegram and Motherless to distribute rape porn of their partners.
The 62 million figure refers to the amount of monthly views of Motherless...which, by itself, is not particularly relevant. The videos are primarly distributed amongst the members of the group, consisting of 0,1% of the site's content and getting, at max, 50K views.
In fact, including this correct number would be a lot better for the cause, as a thousand actual rapists is a lot easier to jail (which, some of them, already are) and a lot more...wait...
...uhhhh...
Didn't we stumble upon something like this when we were listening to the song?
WE SURE DID!
Whilst Ellen has been raging on and on about all men being evil rapists and needing to doxx 62 million men, she has convieniently ignored the fact that she, quite literally, married a guy who fetishises this exact type of rape.
Hell, considering that Ellen is the one who sings the "I'm your party girl" lyric, and that, as we have learned, Ellen has a track record of rape and drug abuse...and being drugged and raped...it's very likely that Jeff had actually raped her as well.
Considering how defensive Ellen got when someone suggested Jeff might have raped her...it's extra valid.
Gee, no wonder why a recent (seemingly, the only only non made-up one) death threat she recieved wasn't even about her work being bad, or any of her child endangerement, or her porn activity, it was that she is a rape supporter!
(archive)
And she wonders why people call her that...
And, yeah, the death threat seems to be legit. The guy seems to primarly post far right war propaganda. I'm so pissed that Ellen recieves death threats, especially as I never wished her any harm...but I'm also pissed that Ellen treats this the exact same way she treats people criticising her work, or "oh go cry about it".
I sure hope the next song we'll cover will be less heavy...did I jinx it?
I jinxed it, didn't I?
The next song, figuring under the "4 Shut", or "4 Shut Master" name, depending on the platform, was released on the jeffypop youtube shortly afterwards, though it didn't get all that many rereleases (When a song about drugging and raping a woman gets more releases than this, you know you're in for a good ride).
Of note, relating to what I've said when I've discussed Party Girl, the song features the following line, spoken by Van Helsing, from the Dracula 1936 movie, which only entered public domain this very year.
It was never switched out in the few rereleases it had, however.
Let's get on to the song, then.
4 Shut
(I prefer to remain and protect those whom you would destroy) / Van Helsing line
LIE DOWN
SIT TIGHT
LET'S GO OUT
(it was a trap)
SHADOWS
MOVE FAST
NO MORE SOUND
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STRAPPED TIGHT
NO SOUNDS, SAFE
(it was a trap)
SIT, GIRL
NO FIGHT
BLEED AWAY
(it was a trap)
Never hear us
Hollow screams won't reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
One will save us
Sound will never reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
I won't ever pass judgement, so nobody's judging me
It may sound like a cop-out, but I'm sure that you'll agree
I'll call it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
If I pass you on the street and see you layin' on the ground
Brother, I ain't gonna help you. Why, I gotta stick around?
You walkin' right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
If somebody comes and asks me "Buddy, what did you see?"
I'll say "I wasn't there, it was someone who looked like me"
And play it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
And if you track me down and try to press your case
I would just like to remind you we can all be erased
So take it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
Never hear us
Hollow screams won't reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
One will save us
Sound will never reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
LIE DOWN
SIT TIGHT
LET'S GO OUT
(it was a trap)
SHADOWS
MOVE FAST
NO MORE SOUND
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
NO MORE SOUND
...that sure was an experience, wasn't it?
Personally, I consider this song both the best and the worst of Jeff.
Best, due to how it sounds, kinda giving me the E1M8 vibe,
Worst, due to the implications...but, for that, we'll have to go back to 2007, and Ellen's first serious job.
Due to the drug addiction and her running away from home, Ellen worked many summer jobs to earn money, being fired almost instantly from them all.
The first job she treated any more seriously than this was Hinduja Global Solutions, which she started working at in 2007, at the age of 19.
(archive)
That's also mentioned in the interview she had with The Chronicle Herald, discussing the comic series she made based on this job, as I've brought up at the start of irritability.
There, she met two people, a guy I dubbed "Shane", due to this being his name in said comic, and Jeff, both working as sales trainers.
Of note, though unrelated...notice how it's always older men?
She seems to have a preference...for whatever reason...hmmm...
Daddy issues much?
...anyway, Jeff worked at the company for two years by this point,
(archive)
"Shane", not sure, but Ellen states that she only met him after Jeff.
After a few months, Ellen started dating "Shane" and, to avoid a workplace affair, she quit her job in 2008, moving to Eastlink.
She married "Shane" in late 2009...but the marriage only lasted seven months. Jeff, then, confessed his love to her, she moved in with him, they released the two songs we've been discussing thus far and concieved a child, all by the end of 2010.
In addition to this, Jeff suddenly stopped working at Hinduja Global Solutions in May of 2010, joining Ellen over at Eastlink a year later.
(archive)
..now, why would Ellen divorce someone who was, quite literally, perfect for her, and whose ony flaw was being too boring?
Here, Ellen writes that Jeff and "Shane" were best friends, but that "Shane"'s relationship with them both soured drastically by the end of her marriage, becoming very possessive of her and didn't trust any of her male friends...
...but, if that's the case, why did she stay with Jeff, whom exhibited the exact same traits?
...the answer lies in the lyrics.
The song is about a secret affair and the paranoia of being found out...which eventually happens, in what the background voice calls "a trap".
Most of the beginning lyrics are commands from the man to the girl, ordering her to keep quiet about the whole thing..except for "sit, girl, no fight, bleed away"...
It then switches to assurances of their safety, before the rap bit...which is where the song gets dark real fast.
First, the man states that she cares so little about the girl that he'd abandon her in the time of need and that he can't be judged for it.
Then, he goes on talking about the extent of the coverup, blatantly lying about the affair.
Afterwards, however, he threathens to "erase" the person the girl is cheating on, shouid he confront him about it.
This is also, probably, what the Van Helsing line refers to.
It, then, repeats with the plees to the girl to stay down.
...now, remember what Ellen has written about her husband becoming suspicious of her and Jeff, and the lack of trust in her male friends, as well as the whole thing with her always having feelings for Jeff?
There's a simple explanation for that.
"Shane" has found out that Ellen has been two timing him and Jeff, his best friend.
This is also why Jeff was fired from Hinduja, a workplace scandal.
Ellen has, quite literally, picked a rapist, an emotional manipulator, and and abuser, over a perfect man.
This is why she is so protective of Jeff.
After getting her first real job and marrying a perfect man, finally being able to escape her horrible past...he had taken everything from her, forcing her into a relationship with him.
AND he wrote a song about it he released two months later!
Jeff never was a weak cuck that got manipulated by Ellen.
He was the abuser.
She can't admit she did anything wrong.
After all, that'd be admitting she got stockholm syndromed into a marriage with one of the worst people she met in her entire life.
Of note, relating to what I've said when I've discussed Party Girl, the song features the following line, spoken by Van Helsing, from the Dracula 1936 movie, which only entered public domain this very year.
It was never switched out in the few rereleases it had, however.
Let's get on to the song, then.
4 Shut
(I prefer to remain and protect those whom you would destroy) / Van Helsing line
LIE DOWN
SIT TIGHT
LET'S GO OUT
(it was a trap)
SHADOWS
MOVE FAST
NO MORE SOUND
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STRAPPED TIGHT
NO SOUNDS, SAFE
(it was a trap)
SIT, GIRL
NO FIGHT
BLEED AWAY
(it was a trap)
Never hear us
Hollow screams won't reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
One will save us
Sound will never reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
I won't ever pass judgement, so nobody's judging me
It may sound like a cop-out, but I'm sure that you'll agree
I'll call it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
If I pass you on the street and see you layin' on the ground
Brother, I ain't gonna help you. Why, I gotta stick around?
You walkin' right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
If somebody comes and asks me "Buddy, what did you see?"
I'll say "I wasn't there, it was someone who looked like me"
And play it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
And if you track me down and try to press your case
I would just like to remind you we can all be erased
So take it right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
right down the middle
Never hear us
Hollow screams won't reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
One will save us
Sound will never reach the streets
Keep your mouth shut
LIE DOWN
SIT TIGHT
LET'S GO OUT
(it was a trap)
SHADOWS
MOVE FAST
NO MORE SOUND
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
(it was a trap)
STAY DOWN
STAY DOWN
NO MORE SOUND
...that sure was an experience, wasn't it?
Personally, I consider this song both the best and the worst of Jeff.
Best, due to how it sounds, kinda giving me the E1M8 vibe,
Worst, due to the implications...but, for that, we'll have to go back to 2007, and Ellen's first serious job.
Due to the drug addiction and her running away from home, Ellen worked many summer jobs to earn money, being fired almost instantly from them all.
The first job she treated any more seriously than this was Hinduja Global Solutions, which she started working at in 2007, at the age of 19.
(archive)
That's also mentioned in the interview she had with The Chronicle Herald, discussing the comic series she made based on this job, as I've brought up at the start of irritability.
There, she met two people, a guy I dubbed "Shane", due to this being his name in said comic, and Jeff, both working as sales trainers.
Of note, though unrelated...notice how it's always older men?
She seems to have a preference...for whatever reason...hmmm...
Daddy issues much?
...anyway, Jeff worked at the company for two years by this point,
(archive)
"Shane", not sure, but Ellen states that she only met him after Jeff.
After a few months, Ellen started dating "Shane" and, to avoid a workplace affair, she quit her job in 2008, moving to Eastlink.
She married "Shane" in late 2009...but the marriage only lasted seven months. Jeff, then, confessed his love to her, she moved in with him, they released the two songs we've been discussing thus far and concieved a child, all by the end of 2010.
In addition to this, Jeff suddenly stopped working at Hinduja Global Solutions in May of 2010, joining Ellen over at Eastlink a year later.
(archive)
..now, why would Ellen divorce someone who was, quite literally, perfect for her, and whose ony flaw was being too boring?
Here, Ellen writes that Jeff and "Shane" were best friends, but that "Shane"'s relationship with them both soured drastically by the end of her marriage, becoming very possessive of her and didn't trust any of her male friends...
...but, if that's the case, why did she stay with Jeff, whom exhibited the exact same traits?
...the answer lies in the lyrics.
The song is about a secret affair and the paranoia of being found out...which eventually happens, in what the background voice calls "a trap".
Most of the beginning lyrics are commands from the man to the girl, ordering her to keep quiet about the whole thing..except for "sit, girl, no fight, bleed away"...
It then switches to assurances of their safety, before the rap bit...which is where the song gets dark real fast.
First, the man states that she cares so little about the girl that he'd abandon her in the time of need and that he can't be judged for it.
Then, he goes on talking about the extent of the coverup, blatantly lying about the affair.
Afterwards, however, he threathens to "erase" the person the girl is cheating on, shouid he confront him about it.
This is also, probably, what the Van Helsing line refers to.
It, then, repeats with the plees to the girl to stay down.
...now, remember what Ellen has written about her husband becoming suspicious of her and Jeff, and the lack of trust in her male friends, as well as the whole thing with her always having feelings for Jeff?
There's a simple explanation for that.
"Shane" has found out that Ellen has been two timing him and Jeff, his best friend.
This is also why Jeff was fired from Hinduja, a workplace scandal.
Ellen has, quite literally, picked a rapist, an emotional manipulator, and and abuser, over a perfect man.
This is why she is so protective of Jeff.
After getting her first real job and marrying a perfect man, finally being able to escape her horrible past...he had taken everything from her, forcing her into a relationship with him.
AND he wrote a song about it he released two months later!
Jeff never was a weak cuck that got manipulated by Ellen.
He was the abuser.
She can't admit she did anything wrong.
After all, that'd be admitting she got stockholm syndromed into a marriage with one of the worst people she met in her entire life.
Following up on the whole psychological manipulation thing is Chancer.
This one is, probably, most notable by the first instance of Ellen's animation (something she does very rarely nowadays), back in her Photoshop days.
Sadly, only the original upload features this animation, everywhere else, it's a single image.
The song has pretty little lyrics also, in addition to being one of Jeff's shortest songs. Most of it is instrumental.
Chancer
You can question me
I won't answer
You're the second guess
I'm the chancer
You can catch your breath
I won't hold it
Is it perfect yet?
Nice and golden.
Waiting for the worst
I was stuck in reverse
You can stay behind
I'll move past you
You may change your mind
I don't have to
You can hold my tongue
I don't need it
Who was keeping score?
Are we even?
Waiting for the worst
I was stuck in reverse
Considering what we've talked about prior, this sounds like Jeff trying to manipulate Ellen into the relationship by:
- telling her he'll get over the relationship quickly, devaluing Ellen (You can stay behind, I'll move past you)
- bringing up how much money she spent on her, to make her feel guilty about it (Is it perfect yet? Nice and golden)
- playing hard to get (You may change your mind, I don't have to)
- telling Ellen they both were responsible for the sorry state they're in (Who was keeping score? Are we even?)
- guilt tripping Ellen (Waiting for the worst I was stuck in reverse)
To be perfectly fair though, this song can be read in many ways, and I'm not really sure what to think of it. The fact that the song's name and background reference cancer might suggest another reading of it.
I'm pretty sure, however, that this is supposed to be that moment when Jeff confessed love to emotionally distraught Ellen after "Shane" found out about the affair, as Ellen wrote about in that comment we've seen prior.
...can't win, can't try, IG.
(archive)
This one is, probably, most notable by the first instance of Ellen's animation (something she does very rarely nowadays), back in her Photoshop days.
Sadly, only the original upload features this animation, everywhere else, it's a single image.
The song has pretty little lyrics also, in addition to being one of Jeff's shortest songs. Most of it is instrumental.
Chancer
You can question me
I won't answer
You're the second guess
I'm the chancer
You can catch your breath
I won't hold it
Is it perfect yet?
Nice and golden.
Waiting for the worst
I was stuck in reverse
You can stay behind
I'll move past you
You may change your mind
I don't have to
You can hold my tongue
I don't need it
Who was keeping score?
Are we even?
Waiting for the worst
I was stuck in reverse
Considering what we've talked about prior, this sounds like Jeff trying to manipulate Ellen into the relationship by:
- telling her he'll get over the relationship quickly, devaluing Ellen (You can stay behind, I'll move past you)
- bringing up how much money she spent on her, to make her feel guilty about it (Is it perfect yet? Nice and golden)
- playing hard to get (You may change your mind, I don't have to)
- telling Ellen they both were responsible for the sorry state they're in (Who was keeping score? Are we even?)
- guilt tripping Ellen (Waiting for the worst I was stuck in reverse)
To be perfectly fair though, this song can be read in many ways, and I'm not really sure what to think of it. The fact that the song's name and background reference cancer might suggest another reading of it.
I'm pretty sure, however, that this is supposed to be that moment when Jeff confessed love to emotionally distraught Ellen after "Shane" found out about the affair, as Ellen wrote about in that comment we've seen prior.
...can't win, can't try, IG.
(archive)
Followed By Silence, as it was originally called,
before having its name switched with the album's name,
Followed By Nothing, was the second song released by Despite the Virus, and a lead single for the titular album...which I don't think ever got completed...
In a unique move for the band, however, Ellen has actually made a full storyboard for a music video, with the intention of making a full animation one day, when her skills sharpened. It released, quite uniquely, on the band's YT channel instead of Jeff's private channel.
The only thing of note about that channel that I haven't shown you before is the favourites playlist, which, besides two private channel videos, also features a kid toy review video.
The song didn't recieve all that many rereleases, possibly also due to its contents.
Around here, we'll start analysing the lyrics (and, in this case, the music video) in greater detail, paying much more focus to them, as they touch up on topics Ellen talked way less about. They're also, due to this, a lot more up to intepretation.
Oh, one thing, many of the lyrics from now on start getting very incomprehensible. For instance, Jeff slurs R's, making "far" sound like "fall", or "break" sound like "blank". Technically, both work, but I've tried to provide the most accurate versions on the lyrics as me and my co-resesearcher have come to.
Followed By Nothing
(An armistice between mind and soul) / Ellen's line
Living in the human trash
Someone pushed too far
Left me here with no way back
Let me break my heart
A deceptive innocence / sang so incomprehensibly, even after several hous of manwork, this is still mostly an accurate guess
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
Night can't hide what's up ahead
Someone blacked the sky
Keeps the sad song in my head
Don't get no peace of mind
A deceptive innocence
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
December night was far too cold
Someone heard your cries
Been awake for seven years
Scared to close our eyes
A deceptive innocence
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
You're too tall
Much too tall
You're too tall
Much too tall
Are you there?
One thing I can't say about this song is that it isn't interesting to analyse.
The main subject matter is, as the opening, sang by Ellen, says, an inside conflict, stemming from trauma, where your mind tells you to keep going and that it'll all get better soon, but your heart tells you to quit and give up on life.
In the music video, this is symbolised by the girl (whom might be teenage Ellen, due to the blonde hair, which, as we have learned when we've discussed Dial Tones, Ellen always wanted to have and portayed herself with in the early years) being involved in a bus accident, after which the whole world collapses from under her feet.
Not sure if it's the intention, but at the start of the song, the commentary states that the girl (shows little reaction) to other injured/dead passengers, after which the karma returns to her when she can get no reaction from the strangers.
The lyrics, then.
The song seems to be about the narrator, calling out to the song's subject, trying to connect with them (Probably the girl, which would, in turn, give us the parallel of Jeff and Ellen). One thing that repeats throurought the song is "someone" at the start of every second line in the non-chorus verses, as in, the subject doesn't know them. The final "someone", as in "someone heard your cries" seems to be the narrator themselves.
Starting from the first verse, the narrator sings about "living in the human trash" and being "pushed too far". In the music video, this is represented by the girl regaining consciousness after a tragic accident and getting out of the bus's wreackage, with only a bird watching over her. This will become more relevant in the later songs, but it seems both people in the song are suffering as the result of their low position in society and want to get out of it, at any cost. Both of their misfortunes seem to have also been caused by another person, who "left (them) here with no way back" and not themselves.
The chorus describes how the narrator had their whole worldview shattered, their hearts broken and their minds scarred by their "deceptive innocence" (or whatever Jeff actually sings), with the narrator lost in thoughts, telling the subject of the song not to "get lost in this" themselves. Considering what we know about Ellen, this is likely referring to the abuse, physical, mental and sexual she had endured as a teenager. Jeff, we know less about, but one of the later songs will touch up on that. In the music video, this is exemplified by the girl struggling to get the help she needs, despite sustaining major injuries in the accident.
The second verse, acompanied by the nightfall in the music video, talks about depression the two people in the song had developed as a result of this trauma, being unable to see the better future.
The third verse, then...describes something much, much scarier...the "december night" "seven years" before that the subject of the song endured and which was "far too cold", leaving them with pernament trauma, represented in the song by the ground shattering, revealing an endless ocean of blue. I think it's safe to assume that this incident is meant to be an assault. While the fact that the song goes into pretty detailed specifics of the incident which sorta creep me out, until we get find more info about it, and, in turn, show a more direct connection to events in her life, I'm gonna treat this as a made-up thing and not something Ellen experienced in real life.
At the end of the song (besides the bird returning, which might represent the narrator), narrator sings "You're too tall, much too tall" while calling out to the subject of the song...and, uh, is it just me, or is the attention to this detail kinda creeping me out? We do know that Jeff consumed rape porn at that time, hell, his previous song was about drugging and rape.
I'll get back to this when we listen to another song with a simillar line.
So, yeah, that'd be Followed By Nothing. A song about recovering from childhood trauma.
By this point, the connection between the contents of the songs and Jeff and Ellen's real life seems to be growing stronger and stronger. It seems as if all of them are recounting romanticised events from their life...but I'll hold off on that conclusively for a bit there. They're still bad if you take them as they are, especially when you consider that Ellen had to approve all of those lyrics.
Let's, then, get into a song that seems to be a bit more straightforward in its connection to their life, and, quite possibly, the only actually cheerful song released by Despite The Virus.
before having its name switched with the album's name,
Followed By Nothing, was the second song released by Despite the Virus, and a lead single for the titular album...which I don't think ever got completed...
In a unique move for the band, however, Ellen has actually made a full storyboard for a music video, with the intention of making a full animation one day, when her skills sharpened. It released, quite uniquely, on the band's YT channel instead of Jeff's private channel.
The only thing of note about that channel that I haven't shown you before is the favourites playlist, which, besides two private channel videos, also features a kid toy review video.
The song didn't recieve all that many rereleases, possibly also due to its contents.
Around here, we'll start analysing the lyrics (and, in this case, the music video) in greater detail, paying much more focus to them, as they touch up on topics Ellen talked way less about. They're also, due to this, a lot more up to intepretation.
Oh, one thing, many of the lyrics from now on start getting very incomprehensible. For instance, Jeff slurs R's, making "far" sound like "fall", or "break" sound like "blank". Technically, both work, but I've tried to provide the most accurate versions on the lyrics as me and my co-resesearcher have come to.
Followed By Nothing
(An armistice between mind and soul) / Ellen's line
Living in the human trash
Someone pushed too far
Left me here with no way back
Let me break my heart
A deceptive innocence / sang so incomprehensibly, even after several hous of manwork, this is still mostly an accurate guess
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
Night can't hide what's up ahead
Someone blacked the sky
Keeps the sad song in my head
Don't get no peace of mind
A deceptive innocence
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
December night was far too cold
Someone heard your cries
Been awake for seven years
Scared to close our eyes
A deceptive innocence
left behind a lovely scar
Don't let your mind get lost in this (don't get lost in this)
It's gonna make you talk (don't get Iost, I still am)
You're too tall
Much too tall
You're too tall
Much too tall
Are you there?
One thing I can't say about this song is that it isn't interesting to analyse.
The main subject matter is, as the opening, sang by Ellen, says, an inside conflict, stemming from trauma, where your mind tells you to keep going and that it'll all get better soon, but your heart tells you to quit and give up on life.
In the music video, this is symbolised by the girl (whom might be teenage Ellen, due to the blonde hair, which, as we have learned when we've discussed Dial Tones, Ellen always wanted to have and portayed herself with in the early years) being involved in a bus accident, after which the whole world collapses from under her feet.
Not sure if it's the intention, but at the start of the song, the commentary states that the girl (shows little reaction) to other injured/dead passengers, after which the karma returns to her when she can get no reaction from the strangers.
The lyrics, then.
The song seems to be about the narrator, calling out to the song's subject, trying to connect with them (Probably the girl, which would, in turn, give us the parallel of Jeff and Ellen). One thing that repeats throurought the song is "someone" at the start of every second line in the non-chorus verses, as in, the subject doesn't know them. The final "someone", as in "someone heard your cries" seems to be the narrator themselves.
Starting from the first verse, the narrator sings about "living in the human trash" and being "pushed too far". In the music video, this is represented by the girl regaining consciousness after a tragic accident and getting out of the bus's wreackage, with only a bird watching over her. This will become more relevant in the later songs, but it seems both people in the song are suffering as the result of their low position in society and want to get out of it, at any cost. Both of their misfortunes seem to have also been caused by another person, who "left (them) here with no way back" and not themselves.
The chorus describes how the narrator had their whole worldview shattered, their hearts broken and their minds scarred by their "deceptive innocence" (or whatever Jeff actually sings), with the narrator lost in thoughts, telling the subject of the song not to "get lost in this" themselves. Considering what we know about Ellen, this is likely referring to the abuse, physical, mental and sexual she had endured as a teenager. Jeff, we know less about, but one of the later songs will touch up on that. In the music video, this is exemplified by the girl struggling to get the help she needs, despite sustaining major injuries in the accident.
The second verse, acompanied by the nightfall in the music video, talks about depression the two people in the song had developed as a result of this trauma, being unable to see the better future.
The third verse, then...describes something much, much scarier...the "december night" "seven years" before that the subject of the song endured and which was "far too cold", leaving them with pernament trauma, represented in the song by the ground shattering, revealing an endless ocean of blue. I think it's safe to assume that this incident is meant to be an assault. While the fact that the song goes into pretty detailed specifics of the incident which sorta creep me out, until we get find more info about it, and, in turn, show a more direct connection to events in her life, I'm gonna treat this as a made-up thing and not something Ellen experienced in real life.
At the end of the song (besides the bird returning, which might represent the narrator), narrator sings "You're too tall, much too tall" while calling out to the subject of the song...and, uh, is it just me, or is the attention to this detail kinda creeping me out? We do know that Jeff consumed rape porn at that time, hell, his previous song was about drugging and rape.
I'll get back to this when we listen to another song with a simillar line.
So, yeah, that'd be Followed By Nothing. A song about recovering from childhood trauma.
By this point, the connection between the contents of the songs and Jeff and Ellen's real life seems to be growing stronger and stronger. It seems as if all of them are recounting romanticised events from their life...but I'll hold off on that conclusively for a bit there. They're still bad if you take them as they are, especially when you consider that Ellen had to approve all of those lyrics.
Let's, then, get into a song that seems to be a bit more straightforward in its connection to their life, and, quite possibly, the only actually cheerful song released by Despite The Virus.
Artificial Sun is the song which I've highlighted at the start of this part, and the song Jeff is the most proud of.
Not much to say here as of now...except for a bit of relevant context, which would help us with one detail for later.
See, while Jeff released new songs up until 2022 (with a small caviat there, which we'll get to later), they were all written between 2009 and 2011...as I'll show you later, because that'd spoil the the latter subsections (Bummer!). This means this song was written between those dates, but most likely in late 2010/early 2011.
Let's get to the song, then.
Artificial Sun
Everything turned out good
Everyone got all worked up
It all worked out in the end
(just like I said it would, just like I said it would)
The big blue globe keeps on spinning
Like it did from the very beginning
You'll just have to be more careful
(it's such a blue sky, it's such a blue sky)
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
There's nothing wrong with the Earth
Just don't forget ESPF100
To fit in with the plasticine people
(??????????????????? / incomprehensible
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
The days seem to go on so long (so long)
when nobody flips their switch (switch)
A year long subscription seems pointless (pointless)
(so just relax and shit, so just relax and shit)
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
Artificial sun
Artificial sun
I'm having a hard time not using confirmation bias here.
The song is about the narrator comforting the subject of the song after a difficult situation that resolved itself in a satisfying way, telling them to relax and enjoy this "artificial sun", which I've taken to mean "a fake source of happiness" or "a distraction from the difficulties of life". The narrator frequently accentuates that nothing happened, the world didn't collapse and everything goes on as per usual, which is a nice contrast from the last song featuring the said collapse of the world. It's a cheerful song, about overcoming difficulties and enjoying life...
...boy, I sure do hope it doesn't have a hidden meaning to it that's less than unsettling!
Especially with lines such as "you'll just have to be more careful" in a song that sounds like it's about making the best out of accidental pregnancy!
I know you're getting tired of my foreshadowing, but we still have two more songs on this channel to cover before we get to the big thing I wanna bring up here, both of which providing additional context to the songs we've discussed before.
Not much to say here as of now...except for a bit of relevant context, which would help us with one detail for later.
See, while Jeff released new songs up until 2022 (with a small caviat there, which we'll get to later), they were all written between 2009 and 2011...as I'll show you later, because that'd spoil the the latter subsections (Bummer!). This means this song was written between those dates, but most likely in late 2010/early 2011.
Let's get to the song, then.
Artificial Sun
Everything turned out good
Everyone got all worked up
It all worked out in the end
(just like I said it would, just like I said it would)
The big blue globe keeps on spinning
Like it did from the very beginning
You'll just have to be more careful
(it's such a blue sky, it's such a blue sky)
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
There's nothing wrong with the Earth
Just don't forget ESPF100
To fit in with the plasticine people
(??????????????????? / incomprehensible
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
The days seem to go on so long (so long)
when nobody flips their switch (switch)
A year long subscription seems pointless (pointless)
(so just relax and shit, so just relax and shit)
Help yourself to some artificial sun (artificial sun)
Don't be shy, we've got a ton (we've got a ton)
Need to light up, there's another sun (another sun)
Worry not, it'll never fall
Artificial sun
Artificial sun
I'm having a hard time not using confirmation bias here.
The song is about the narrator comforting the subject of the song after a difficult situation that resolved itself in a satisfying way, telling them to relax and enjoy this "artificial sun", which I've taken to mean "a fake source of happiness" or "a distraction from the difficulties of life". The narrator frequently accentuates that nothing happened, the world didn't collapse and everything goes on as per usual, which is a nice contrast from the last song featuring the said collapse of the world. It's a cheerful song, about overcoming difficulties and enjoying life...
...boy, I sure do hope it doesn't have a hidden meaning to it that's less than unsettling!
Especially with lines such as "you'll just have to be more careful" in a song that sounds like it's about making the best out of accidental pregnancy!
I know you're getting tired of my foreshadowing, but we still have two more songs on this channel to cover before we get to the big thing I wanna bring up here, both of which providing additional context to the songs we've discussed before.
This song released only in 2022, but, as the description reads, it was recorded around the time of Party Girl, making it one of the oldest songs of Despite The Virus.
Oh hey, it's Ellen!
It's also the shortest of the original (foreshadowing is a literary device) Despite The Virus songs, at 2 minutes and 53 seconds in length.
Warm
I've been told before that this is home
Why do I feel
so alone
I've been movin' fast through half-closed doors
To find the place
that was before
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
It's time to count the times I've tried
To slip away
From your clutch
I take my orders inferred on your waves
What can I say?
It's all too much
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
Now that I have made the other side
I couldn't lie
I hope you die
Now that I have made the other side
I hope you die
I hope you die
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
I think it's safe to assume that this song is about the narrator's rebellious phase of moving away from their parents, wishing them the worst, but then realising they feel extremely alone and miss their parent's warm home.
I suspect that this song is directly from Jeff's perspective...but this also fits Ellen, as we've seen her talk about that exact same thing.
I think this is also what the beginning of Followed By Nothing referred to, leaving parents, only to realise the real world's way harder than they thought.
If this song is about Jeff, it's also our only real glimpse into his past, as there's not much about him I was able to find besides the high school he went to.
Oh hey, it's Ellen!
It's also the shortest of the original (foreshadowing is a literary device) Despite The Virus songs, at 2 minutes and 53 seconds in length.
Warm
I've been told before that this is home
Why do I feel
so alone
I've been movin' fast through half-closed doors
To find the place
that was before
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
It's time to count the times I've tried
To slip away
From your clutch
I take my orders inferred on your waves
What can I say?
It's all too much
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
Now that I have made the other side
I couldn't lie
I hope you die
Now that I have made the other side
I hope you die
I hope you die
No one wants to be alone
That's how we're born
Warm
No one wants to be alone
I think it's safe to assume that this song is about the narrator's rebellious phase of moving away from their parents, wishing them the worst, but then realising they feel extremely alone and miss their parent's warm home.
I suspect that this song is directly from Jeff's perspective...but this also fits Ellen, as we've seen her talk about that exact same thing.
I think this is also what the beginning of Followed By Nothing referred to, leaving parents, only to realise the real world's way harder than they thought.
If this song is about Jeff, it's also our only real glimpse into his past, as there's not much about him I was able to find besides the high school he went to.
The final song released on jeffypop11 youtube channel is also another old song, one that was written in 2009-wait...
So, apparently, Ellen helped Jeff out with his songs all the way in 2009, back when she was romantically engaged with "Shane".
This, of course, leads to the following question.
When were Party Girl and Followed By Nothing written?
If they were written in 2009 also, or before May, when Ellen broke up with her ex, which is likely, since they were released very shortly afterwards, this would mean that they were writing songs about drugging and rape, songs which put into question the true nature of the relationship between Jeff and Ellen, during her previous relationship...
I guess the best thing to do would be to listen to this song and see if there's anything interesting about it.
Violet Sky
Panic in the night (night)
Floodlights in the sky (sky)
Reflecting in your eyes (your eyes)
You can't sleep (sleep)
Fire in the air (air)
Flames are everywhere (where)
Slow, realistic step (step)
You will keep (keep)
Lay flat on the ground (ground)
Never make a sound (sound)
Guns are all around (around)
You'll have death (death)
hiding underneath (neath)
Try hard to unsheathe (unsheathe)
that which is released (released)
from your belt (belt)
Violet sky, why have you forsaken me?
Young girl approached a curious man
with a lack of understanding
a flash of light
fade to black
her parents screamed
echoed through the night
echoed through the valley
echoed through the ages
extinguished their light
Panic in the night (night)
Floodlights in the sky (sky)
Reflecting in your eyes (your eyes)
You can't sleep (sleep)
Fire in the air (air)
Flames are everywhere (where)
Slow, realistic step (step)
You will keep (keep)
VIolet sky, why have you forsaken me?
See, I was genuinely confused about the date ealrier, as I have just noticed that line.
This is because, whilst the song seems to be about PTSD, it's actually moreso about paranoia of being caught and gunned down.
The story in this one is most definitely made up though, as Ellen seems to be alive.
In addition...if we compare the lyrics of 4 Shut to this song...they are extremely simillar.
Like, let's have a comparison.
Violet Sky:
You will keep (keep)
Lay flat on the ground (ground)
Never make a sound (sound)
4 Shut:
STAY DOWN
STRAPPED TIGHT
NO SOUNDS, SAFE
(it was a trap)
At least to me, it sounds like, under the premise of an anti-war message, the song is actually about the same affair...which, being written by them both in 2009...would, naturally, be pretty problematic for the two of them.
So, apparently, Ellen helped Jeff out with his songs all the way in 2009, back when she was romantically engaged with "Shane".
This, of course, leads to the following question.
When were Party Girl and Followed By Nothing written?
If they were written in 2009 also, or before May, when Ellen broke up with her ex, which is likely, since they were released very shortly afterwards, this would mean that they were writing songs about drugging and rape, songs which put into question the true nature of the relationship between Jeff and Ellen, during her previous relationship...
I guess the best thing to do would be to listen to this song and see if there's anything interesting about it.
Violet Sky
Panic in the night (night)
Floodlights in the sky (sky)
Reflecting in your eyes (your eyes)
You can't sleep (sleep)
Fire in the air (air)
Flames are everywhere (where)
Slow, realistic step (step)
You will keep (keep)
Lay flat on the ground (ground)
Never make a sound (sound)
Guns are all around (around)
You'll have death (death)
hiding underneath (neath)
Try hard to unsheathe (unsheathe)
that which is released (released)
from your belt (belt)
Violet sky, why have you forsaken me?
Young girl approached a curious man
with a lack of understanding
a flash of light
fade to black
her parents screamed
echoed through the night
echoed through the valley
echoed through the ages
extinguished their light
Panic in the night (night)
Floodlights in the sky (sky)
Reflecting in your eyes (your eyes)
You can't sleep (sleep)
Fire in the air (air)
Flames are everywhere (where)
Slow, realistic step (step)
You will keep (keep)
VIolet sky, why have you forsaken me?
See, I was genuinely confused about the date ealrier, as I have just noticed that line.
This is because, whilst the song seems to be about PTSD, it's actually moreso about paranoia of being caught and gunned down.
The story in this one is most definitely made up though, as Ellen seems to be alive.
In addition...if we compare the lyrics of 4 Shut to this song...they are extremely simillar.
Like, let's have a comparison.
Violet Sky:
You will keep (keep)
Lay flat on the ground (ground)
Never make a sound (sound)
4 Shut:
STAY DOWN
STRAPPED TIGHT
NO SOUNDS, SAFE
(it was a trap)
At least to me, it sounds like, under the premise of an anti-war message, the song is actually about the same affair...which, being written by them both in 2009...would, naturally, be pretty problematic for the two of them.
jeffypop11, made in early 2010, was, as I've referred to, Jeff's private channel...which, for some reason, he favored over his band specific channel I've shown you before.
This is particularly problematic, due to his favourites playlist.
In addition to a lot of his "inspiration",
it also features an MLP music video...and a video by Ellen, named "love"
It's a video made by her in 2016 that's a slideshow of pictures of the two across their entire relationship, including a lot of very private stuff, like pics of their newborns...seemingly created to show Jeff just how much he means to her. We'll get to that later.
Naturally, Ellen never thought to set it to non-public.
Let's go over it and analyse it, as it's probably the closest we'll ever get to understanding their dynamic around that point in time.
The video opens with a set of pictures taken in Birmingham, UK.
Ellen confirmed travelling there, as well as another place seen in the video, on her Facebook, under her recent Lisbon comic.
Afterwards, this picture of TD Garden is featured.
She confirmed going there specifically in mid April of 2013, shortly before the infamous Boston marathon bombing.
I mean, I don't want to be that guy...but have you ever seen Ellen Woodbury and Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev in the same room?
She most likely went there because of Jeff, who seems to be a big hockey fan, The finals of Boston Bruins were held there at that time, and it's the team they cheered for.
Afterwards, a bunch of pics of the two, including the one above, are shown, before switching to pics of Dublin, Ireland, at 1:03.
Those we actually have specific dates for, as Ellen has posted a few photos from there on her private Facebook, which have been archived.
Again, this was also confirmed by Ellen in that Facebook reply from ealrier.
After a few unrelated pictures, including Ellen's promise ring,
we get to...
While I was working on this part, I've shared a bunch of tidbits about it with my fellow Snarkers, including this picture.
Specifically, I've shared it there during a discussion about Elisabeth's conception, a few months ago.
Ellen, who either entered this (public) server using an alt account (coward!), or learned about its contents from a fellow fan, used this to discredit her detractors.
(archive)
Despite this, as you can see, the video has śtill not been privated, or at least removed from Jeff's favourites on his account.
And it's not like he doesn't have access to it, he made a post on it a few months ago, promoting the rereleases of Party Girl, Chancer and Artificial Sun.
(archive)
Moving on, the following picture shows pregnant Ellen.
It's, however, not a picture of her pregnant with Liz, but a later one, of her pregnant with Boston.
In a very funny example of Ellen's lazyness, she had referenced this exact photo in a comic about her first pregnancy...despite the fact it doesn't show any belly and could, thus, have just used her regular OC without any modifications...
(archive)
...oh, yeah, and the comic is also about Anne, Ellen's younger sister, being told she's a mistake.
Wouldn't be the first time.
(archive)
...which brings us to the crux of the matter.
When someone asked Ellen (rightfully) why the fuck would her mother tell her sis she was a mistake in front of her, she stated that it was all loving, caring, and not wrong at all, especially as they were adults by then.
She doubled down on it in another reply under this post.
So...apparently telling kids they're a mistake is normal in Ellen's family.
Explains the Blame comic...which, considering the context we've now gotten...makes this all much, much worse.
Ellen divorced "Shane" around May of 2010. She moved in with Jeff somewhere later, released two songs in August of that year...and then, less than a year later, Ellen is pregnant with Liz.
Hell, Ellen stated she was a mistake, very recently, on her Threads!
(archive)
Remember Artificial Sun?
Considering the timing, that song might have, very well, been about Jeff comforting Ellen after learing she's pregnant, and that's what the "you'll just have to be more careful" remark was about...or was it?
So...that comment I've shown you ealrier?
It is true.
Jeff had raped and impregnated Ellen against her will, all under the guise of giving her a back rub, then blamed her for it.
Ellen was just too ashamed to ever admit to it directly.
This is particularly problematic, due to his favourites playlist.
In addition to a lot of his "inspiration",
it also features an MLP music video...and a video by Ellen, named "love"
It's a video made by her in 2016 that's a slideshow of pictures of the two across their entire relationship, including a lot of very private stuff, like pics of their newborns...seemingly created to show Jeff just how much he means to her. We'll get to that later.
Naturally, Ellen never thought to set it to non-public.
Let's go over it and analyse it, as it's probably the closest we'll ever get to understanding their dynamic around that point in time.
The video opens with a set of pictures taken in Birmingham, UK.
Ellen confirmed travelling there, as well as another place seen in the video, on her Facebook, under her recent Lisbon comic.
Afterwards, this picture of TD Garden is featured.
She confirmed going there specifically in mid April of 2013, shortly before the infamous Boston marathon bombing.
I mean, I don't want to be that guy...but have you ever seen Ellen Woodbury and Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev in the same room?
She most likely went there because of Jeff, who seems to be a big hockey fan, The finals of Boston Bruins were held there at that time, and it's the team they cheered for.
Afterwards, a bunch of pics of the two, including the one above, are shown, before switching to pics of Dublin, Ireland, at 1:03.
Those we actually have specific dates for, as Ellen has posted a few photos from there on her private Facebook, which have been archived.
Again, this was also confirmed by Ellen in that Facebook reply from ealrier.
After a few unrelated pictures, including Ellen's promise ring,
we get to...
While I was working on this part, I've shared a bunch of tidbits about it with my fellow Snarkers, including this picture.
Specifically, I've shared it there during a discussion about Elisabeth's conception, a few months ago.
Ellen, who either entered this (public) server using an alt account (coward!), or learned about its contents from a fellow fan, used this to discredit her detractors.
(archive)
Despite this, as you can see, the video has śtill not been privated, or at least removed from Jeff's favourites on his account.
And it's not like he doesn't have access to it, he made a post on it a few months ago, promoting the rereleases of Party Girl, Chancer and Artificial Sun.
(archive)
Moving on, the following picture shows pregnant Ellen.
In a very funny example of Ellen's lazyness, she had referenced this exact photo in a comic about her first pregnancy...despite the fact it doesn't show any belly and could, thus, have just used her regular OC without any modifications...
(archive)
...oh, yeah, and the comic is also about Anne, Ellen's younger sister, being told she's a mistake.
Wouldn't be the first time.
(archive)
...which brings us to the crux of the matter.
When someone asked Ellen (rightfully) why the fuck would her mother tell her sis she was a mistake in front of her, she stated that it was all loving, caring, and not wrong at all, especially as they were adults by then.
She doubled down on it in another reply under this post.
So...apparently telling kids they're a mistake is normal in Ellen's family.
Explains the Blame comic...which, considering the context we've now gotten...makes this all much, much worse.
Ellen divorced "Shane" around May of 2010. She moved in with Jeff somewhere later, released two songs in August of that year...and then, less than a year later, Ellen is pregnant with Liz.
Hell, Ellen stated she was a mistake, very recently, on her Threads!
(archive)
Remember Artificial Sun?
Considering the timing, that song might have, very well, been about Jeff comforting Ellen after learing she's pregnant, and that's what the "you'll just have to be more careful" remark was about...or was it?
So...that comment I've shown you ealrier?
It is true.
Jeff had raped and impregnated Ellen against her will, all under the guise of giving her a back rub, then blamed her for it.
Ellen was just too ashamed to ever admit to it directly.
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RazorBackBacon
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Genuine question, are you even old enough to post on this site?
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New comic just dropped. She seems to have tried really hard this time
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Fucker Carlson
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Can we count these as evidence that deep down she knows how creepy and offputting her own art style is? Obviously she's overdoing it to make fun of these guys but I don't think it's really that different from the normal comics.
> Look! I drew the other guy as being really ugly! That means I'm right!
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Hey Ellen part of the problem with your "art" is the fact you use shitty muted colors and single color backgrounds.
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Yeah, at this point, I've stopped acknowledging these types of posts. They're not funny, not original, and they're just "This person does bad things so I'll draw them as ugly as I can!".
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Yeah I have not been keeping up with Ellen, I only posted this because I chanced upon it soon after it was posted and this seems to be her using whatever ‘effort’ she has to actually be a real comic artist and not a half-ass weed brained slopbitch
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Why does her drawing of Mark Zuckerberg look like some kind of homosexual?
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Oh wow, she hasn’t changed a bit in five years! That is not a compliment!
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Yeah, your mission of staying sane didn't work out much I'm afraid.
Also, you're talking about your comics, or porn?
That is, unfortunately, true. It's a real shame that you attach your real full name to your porn and that this has already led to CP of your children being made. Heck, one's not even of your child!
A JasonAnarchy game with your assets, funded with Reddit money.
If you were a political activist, you would bother to, y'know, show up to a No Tyrants Rally in Halifax (literally 20 minutes away from you)
One part's true in all of this, however.
Welp.
I already know what her fans are gonna do with them.
Congratulations for bronze Girlcow of the Year 2025 award! May your manhating and homophobia grow even more fierce
and your hypocrisy even more severe.
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