Inactive Elliot Rodger - The Supreme Gentleman

[teheviltwin]

This has been touched on, but I figured I'd just run with it. I just did a 15-second google search for "Santa Barbara Escorts" and came up with a few results that would easily fit Elliot's criteria... and this is just your run-of-the-mill backpage stuff. I'm certain there are less pedestrian agencies in the area that could fix him up with even hotter girls for four times the price.

And I doubt any of them would have put a dent in this guy's wallet. People in that neck of the woods pick up hookers like I pick up pizzas.

(BTW- I thought about actually posting the links I found, since this isn't a SFW site anyway, but decided against it since it wasn't needed to make my point. I can add them if anyone thinks otherwise)

Resorting to a hooker would have completely crushed his ego. He deserved to have the hottest blonde throw herself at him purely for being him.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Resorting to a hooker would have completely crushed his ego. He deserved to have the hottest blonde throw herself at him purely for being him.

Did he actually say that? I don't have time this week to read the Wizifesto. I was just thinking someone in his environment would be less opposed to hookers than, for example, Chris. And he'd not only have a better selection, but a bigger budget.

 

[Daario Naharis]

Did he actually say that? I don't have time this week to read the Wizifesto. I was just thinking someone in his environment would be less opposed to hookers than, for example, Chris. And he'd not only have a better selection, but a bigger budget.

At first, it amazed me too. But then at the same time, I don't just think he wanted a girl. He wanted a tall, skinny, chesty blonde with a perfect ass and radiant blue eyes who would worship him as the God he was.

That's a pretty expensive hooker.

The ironic part is that he could (arguably) still afford it.

 

[Marvin]

I don't really consider this laziness as much as "fucking psychopathy". If Elliot preening around his BMW all afternoon would have scored him a girlfriend, I feel confident he would have turned to all the other things wrong in his life and viewed his failures (he had many) and "unfair" station in life through THAT obsessive lens. And because he was obsessive, we would have had a whole manifesto about how a lack of human companionship, or people not appreciating his genius, instead of viewing the world through the frame of >tfw no gf.

He had no career prospects. Chris spent 6 years at community college; Elliot spent parts of four or five and it appears he completed even fewer classes in that time. His future was tied up in winning the lottery. He had no friends after his last WoW buddy dumped him and makes frequent mention of this (like spending his birthdays with mother & father, not because he loves them but because he had no friends to spend it with).

If you take a step back, his life was spinning down the drain either way. If one of his crying jags forced through the revelation that the female body wasn't his salvation, I don't feel he would have gotten "better" -- I feel like he would have instantly switched to something else.

Perhaps the end would have been different (maybe he would have gone Mark David Chapman instead of mass shooting), and he would have blamed it on something else, but that denouement was coming.

The guy was nuts, no question about that. Heh, really, I'm curious as to how he'd phrase his problems after (if hypothetically) he had sex. What if he had a one-night stand. What would be the next thing for him to get his jimmies all rustled up about?

 

[Artard]

At first, it amazed me too. But then at the same time, I don't just think he wanted a girl. He wanted a tall, skinny, chesty blonde with a perfect ass and radiant blue eyes who would worship him as the God he was.

That's a pretty expensive hooker.

The ironic part is that he could (arguably) still afford it.

Hands up if you've read The Temple of the Golden Pavilion?

He hired a hooker, and it changed nothing.

Now that I think about it, that book is really appropriate. The Temple of the Allegory of Elliot Rodger.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

At first, it amazed me too. But then at the same time, I don't just think he wanted a girl. He wanted a tall, skinny, chesty blonde with a perfect ass and radiant blue eyes who would worship him as the God he was.

That's a pretty expensive hooker.

The ironic part is that he could (arguably) still afford it.

My point exactly. Unlike Chris, he could have called several people in his dad's rolodex and asked for exactly that, and probably paid for her with money left over from his last outing. The hooker barrier is much lower for someone in his position than it would be for nearly anyone else.

 

[teheviltwin]

The guy was nuts, no question about that. Heh, really, I'm curious as to how he'd phrase his problems after (if hypothetically) he had sex. What if he had a one-night stand. What would be the next thing for him to get his jimmies all rustled up about?

Slut who leave him for "Chad Thundercock"... If he had a girlfriend he'd be the kind of guy who was insanely possessive to the point of needing to call out the police.

Did he actually say that? I don't have time this week to read the Wizifesto. I was just thinking someone in his environment would be less opposed to hookers than, for example, Chris. And he'd not only have a better selection, but a bigger budget.

I shall have to go and look back through the vileness when I have the stomach for it again.

 

[The Knife]

At first, it amazed me too. But then at the same time, I don't just think he wanted a girl. He wanted a tall, skinny, chesty blonde with a perfect ass and radiant blue eyes who would worship him as the God he was.

That's a pretty expensive hooker.

The ironic part is that he could (arguably) still afford it.

Wouldn't have been good enough. Paying for it still implies effort. His ego told him that he shouldn't have to work for a woman; they should accept him as the god he was.

The guy was nuts, no question about that. Heh, really, I'm curious as to how he'd phrase his problems after (if hypothetically) he had sex. What if he had a one-night stand. What would be the next thing for him to get his jimmies all rustled up about?

He'd be confused and angry that sex didn't solve all his problems and blame the girl because clearly she wasn't trying hard enough.

Fucker was a misogynist. Once you accept that one person (or group of people) is responsible for everything that's wrong, it's not hard to keep on inventing excuses.

 

[Zenotwapal]

Resorting to a hooker would have completely crushed his ego. He deserved to have the hottest blonde throw herself at him purely for being him.

See when I watched his videos, I got the hint that he had a very warped view on how relationships are. He highlighted sex constantly in any sort of relationship he pursued. He somehow got in his sick little head that if he had to have sex with a woman in order to be in a relationship with her. Basically I sense that he thought sex=relationship and love, with is totally not true if I'm not mistaken.
Not sure if that was his thing or not but that's what I'm getting.

 

[Marvin]

Oh come now... As annoying as loves guys may be, they didn't "cause him" or even help mold who he became anymore than feminists, the patriarchy, gun culture, frat boy movies, or any other thing that interest groups try to push as the big problem, that causes mass murders. (Which funny enough also happens to be the same thing as they are proponents/opponents of...)

If you look at his manifesto, you can see that he was so fundamentally screwed up, that his loveshy-tendencies were more of a symptom of the problem, than the problem itself.

It's also pretty clear that he developed his ideas himself, and He didn't come into contact with other loveshys until a year or two ago. A long time after all his crazy was already in place.

If anything he has more in common with SJW than loveshys.

Another thing that's fairly obvious from the whinyfesto, is how autistic he was. One of the most disturbing things were how far removed from reality he was. Well normal peoples reality I guess. He had a full blown Aspies amazing ability to at any given time guesstimate what other people may be thinking, and being so far off the mark that it's hard to be any more wrong.

How far removed from reality was he? Towards the end he describes how it would be possible to make a much better civilization, by getting rid of females, in order to completely remove human sexuality.

"In such a pure world, the mans mind can develop into ever higher heights than before. Future generations will be free to live their lives free of having to worry about the barbarity of sex and women, which will enable them to expand their intelligence, and advance the human race to a state of perfect civilization."

(Yes, he has a halfassed plan on how to accomplish breeding. But it's really dumb and ain't pretty...)

He lives in such complete intellectual and mental isolation, that after having thought deeply about these things for many months, he came up with that creepily weird vision of removing woman, in order to get rid of sexuality, without even for a minute considering that HE WOULD BASICALLY TURN THE WHOLE PLANET GAY!!!

He was a loveshy, not in that he was involved with the loveshy community, but that he had loveshy beliefs. Heh, he independently developed himself into a loveshy dipshit.

I think loveshys should be pestered, but not because of Elliot. A crazy can connect themselves with any group, Elliot doesn't mean shit as far as loveshys go. Loveshys are just shitty people, on their own, and they should be mocked for it.

Slut who leave him for "Chad Thundercock"... If he had a girlfriend he'd be the kind of guy who was insanely possessive to the point of needing to call out the police.

Yeah, I was thinking that. He couldn't ever have a girlfriend, because when she leaves him, that would be the same sort of thing to trigger him. But what if he had a one night stand? Maybe he'd never accept that it could be just a one night stand? Ah, the mysteries of Elliot's warped noodle...

 

[BT 075]

The guy was nuts, no question about that. Heh, really, I'm curious as to how he'd phrase his problems after (if hypothetically) he had sex. What if he had a one-night stand. What would be the next thing for him to get his jimmies all rustled up about?

Good question!

He'd be pretty much exactly like this guy. Thatincelblogger got laid several times, with about five(?) women. Two or three of these he had sex with only by means of blackmail, offering to remove their dox off his site once they had sex with him. Others he had short-lived relationships with.

Elliot would have been exactly like Thatincelblogger, Marjan Siklic, who also remained a virgin until 22 and cheated his way into sex after that. That dude ended up getting laid but it did not make him any less fucked up and psychotic. He still cries and whines over the fact he cannot get a lasting relationship with a "decent, moral woman". Whines about feminism and society and all that jazz. The same tired old shit, endlessly repeated by the same tired old pathetic crowd. And more disturbingly, he expressed his support for the likes of George Sodini before and hinted at potentially going out in a similar way.

Had Rodger gotten a few one night short flings, a one night stand here and there, he would have been frustrated still. Because the minute a woman gets to know him for who he really, she will be turned off. Staring into the abyss like that rarely makes a lady moist. It's a rather chilling experience. He would still be miserable and lonely, sex or no sex. Any joy and solace it could have offered him would be short-lived.

 

[Fapcup]

combined with his relatively late puberty, very weak frame and overall unhealthy appearance makes me think he may have suffered from some sort of hormonal disorder. He was quite underdeveloped both mentally and physically.

At one point he mentions how he took a week long abstinence from masturbating, which was hard, since he "had a high sexdrive and usually masturbated every other day..."

Considering that he's 19-20 years old at that time, and that most guys with an average sex drive self pollute several times a day, that certainly lends credence to Eliott having hormonal issues.

 

[Some JERK]

I think it's a fair point to bring up because his whole schtick was that he had no ability to attract the women he wanted, when in fact he had almost every tool imaginable. He just didn't want to have to do any work.

Yeah this. I have only passingly read some of the the things that the loveshy community has to say, and in my opinion, it's basically nothing more than garden variety cowardice. They're afraid of women and envious of people who aren't, so they just vilify both. That's easier than confronting the fact that you're just too scared to try because you're too emotionally fragile to handle failure or rejection.

 

[Marvin]

At one point he mentions how he took a week long abstinence from masturbating, which was hard, since he "had a high sexdrive and usually masturbated every other day..."

Considering that he's 19-20 years old at that time, and that most guys with an average sex drive self pollute several times a day, that certainly lends credence to Eliott having hormonal issues.

Yeah, shit. Every other day is a high sex drive? Uhh...

 

[Cwckifan]

I would say nature and nurture. I can not express how important parental bonding within the first three years is. In particular, a lack of maternal bonding can cause sexual deviance as well as a lack of empathy. He had nannies, multiple nannies... He was spoilt to the point that he was still using tantrums to successfully get his way in his late teens.

Based on his madifesto, his mother actually stopped working so that she could stay home and raise him, and he does describe frequently playing with them as a child. This guy had literally everything going for him; it's a shame he was just crazy

 

[teheviltwin]

Based on his madifesto, his mother actually stopped working so that she could stay home and raise him, and he does describe frequently playing with them as a child. This guy had literally everything going for him; it's a shame he was just crazy

Physical presence doesn't mean bonding. I know a lot of parents, unfortunately including family members, who are thoroughly awful, if ever present, parents. The first person who seemed to give him any kind of boundaries and structure appeared to be Soumaya, who he intended to kill.

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

Did he actually say that? I don't have time this week to read the Wizifesto. I was just thinking someone in his environment would be less opposed to hookers than, for example, Chris. And he'd not only have a better selection, but a bigger budget.

Wizifesto? Surely you mean the Story of My Current Days of Future Past? (because hollywood)

 

[Cwckifan]

Physical presence doesn't mean bonding. I know a lot of parents, unfortunately including family members, who are thoroughly awful, if ever present, parents. The first person who seemed to give him any kind of boundaries and structure appeared to be Soumaya, who he intended to kill.

Either way, he sure as hell wasn't hurting for attention. If his mother actually took the time to actually raise him, instead of just putting him under the care of nannies before shipping him off to boarding school at the age of 10, then she obviously had no shortage of love for him. Really, is it so crazy that any parent would want to give their kids the world? This guy was just crazy, and that's hardly anyone's fault

 

[Fapcup]

Resorting to a hooker would have completely crushed his ego. He deserved to have the hottest blonde throw herself at him purely for being him.

He really couldn't understand why girls didn't just go up to him and offer him sex, but it wasn't out of arrogance or pure narcissism.

(His whinyfesto is actually full of examples of him having low selfesteem.)

He was just so screwed up, and pathetically and tragically out of touch with other people, that he genuinely seemed to believe, that this is how attraction/sex/relationships actually work: When a girl is interested in a guy, she just goes up to him and offers him sex.

As someone else on here wrote, he approached life the same way WOW works. Use X to unlock Z.

And as he demonstrates in one of his videos (Why do women hate me) since he KNOWS that his magic charisma+3 300$ Armani sunglasses are supposed to unlock the Get Vag achievement he needs to get to the next level, can you imagine how frustrating it must be, when that doesn't happen despite numerous attempts on his behalf? Clearly life is broken and has a major bug, that nobody seems to notice...

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Physical presence doesn't mean bonding. I know a lot of parents, unfortunately including family members, who are thoroughly awful, if ever present, parents.

A not-too-terrible example would be Barb. Aside from some nights on the town when Chris was really young, all signs point to her staying home and doting on him during his formative years. Problem was, she took every opportunity to send Chris the wrong message, and her motives seem mixed at best.

It's too soon to say if a similar issue happened with Elliot. So far, it seems like his parents were solid people that did the best they could with greater-than-average resources. However, it's not uncommon for shitty parent stories to surface years later, when the initial drama fades.