Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 305 26.6%
  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 814 70.9%

  • Total voters
    1,148
Imagine looking at Elon Musk or Rogan and thinking he's less of a drag than Giulliani or Bannon

I'm not really that well read into the US political or media/news scene but from what I can ascertain:
  • Giuliani was a super boomer (80 years old currently) political crony (the guy who did a press conference in front of the four seasons gardening center lol) and...
  • Steve Bannon was also a super boomer (70 years old currently) who had a varied background and owned Brietbart which is a little bit of a controversial and not that reputable news outlet and wasn't really that mainstream and was probably only read by old fucks. It also seems to have been a place that attracted endless controversial figures.
"By 2019, Breitbart had lost nearly 75% of its readership, going from 17.3 million at the beginning of 2017 to 4.6 million in May 2019"

Compare that to:
  • Elon Musk (aged 53 years) currently leading like 4-5 different major companies involved in major areas of economic growth that have very consequential and topical interest in the world economy and technology (electric vehicles, battery tech, space race, space internet access) and also owns Tweeter (arguably the single most influential "news" or media platform to currently exist). While not exactly universally loved and without controversy, is unarguably someone of much higher standing and influence than Giuliani and Bannon put together)
  • Rogan (aged 57) isn't even a part of Trump's campaign from what I can tell, but I guess even if he is in an advisory sense, he runs a podcast that has billions of views and the annual deal for it is $200m USD (compared to Brietbart which had an endowment of just $11m USD from what I can see) and has like 20 million subscribers and 5+ billion views. Rogan alone has more attention command by like 1000x compared to Brietbart.
Now ask yourself:
  1. If you were a world leader or a multinational corporate conglomerate and Trump came to your office with either (Giuliani/Bannon or Musk/Rogan), who would you take more seriously?
  2. If you were an investor of person considering starting a company, would you trust the decisions of Trump with either (Giuliani/Bannon or Musk/Rogan) attached?

It's a literal no brainer. Giuliani and Bannon were both old fucks who were out of touch with young people and haven't done anywhere near as much as someone like Musk or have the influence that Rogan has.
 
90IQ narcissist attempting to little finger Trump as he shits on the table
As a Bonger, where 'fingering' means something very different to the US, this took me a moment.

I kind of feel like this thread isn't the place to be political (except now it is) but it feels like this time around Trump has some better "handlers". Having someone like Elon and some key advisors who aren't so politically rooted may unironically make him way better - just someone who can clearly tell him shit like "stay the fuck away from this person" or "do/don't do that".
Remember that Elongated Muskrat dated Amber Heard.
 
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When the faggot bought twitter, he said he'd make everything transparent, but then he just posted some files by the old management that showed they genuinely cared and did their best, fired those people, and shut down all twitter transparency. Now it's a cesspool, but he loves it because he has millions of sycophants. Who cares that they're all retards and lying grifters? The void he has where real people have a soul doesn't.


Democracy is when a dictator rules unchecked by other institutions and is above the law. I guess that's at least consistent with Trump's platform.
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None of the people who follow him are interested in how anything works, because any amount of research exposes him as a liar and an ignoramus, which would make them feel contempt for him, which means his following is self selecting for the deranged and the stupid.

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The creation of covid took place under and was funded by Trump. Of course the "we put microchips in your brain" man who has a fleet of thousands of satellites that beam radiation into your home 24/7 works for Trump, so he helps cover that up.
Schizos used to call out that kind of stuff, now they support it.
 
Democracy is when a dictator rules unchecked by other institutions and is above the law. I guess that's at least consistent with Trump's platform.
I love that one party controlling congress and the white house has happened multiple times in American history, fairly recently even. But only when TV and Tik Tok tell people Orange Man Bad is it now a dictatorship. Please, regale me with your tales of Project 2025 bayonetting lgbt toddlers
 
I'm not really that well read into the US political or media/news scene but from what I can ascertain:
  • Giuliani was a super boomer (80 years old currently) political crony (the guy who did a press conference in front of the four seasons gardening center lol) and...
  • Steve Bannon was also a super boomer (70 years old currently) who had a varied background and owned Brietbart which is a little bit of a controversial and not that reputable news outlet and wasn't really that mainstream and was probably only read by old fucks. It also seems to have been a place that attracted endless controversial figures.
"By 2019, Breitbart had lost nearly 75% of its readership, going from 17.3 million at the beginning of 2017 to 4.6 million in May 2019"

Compare that to:
  • Elon Musk (aged 53 years) currently leading like 4-5 different major companies involved in major areas of economic growth that have very consequential and topical interest in the world economy and technology (electric vehicles, battery tech, space race, space internet access) and also owns Tweeter (arguably the single most influential "news" or media platform to currently exist). While not exactly universally loved and without controversy, is unarguably someone of much higher standing and influence than Giuliani and Bannon put together)
  • Rogan (aged 57) isn't even a part of Trump's campaign from what I can tell, but I guess even if he is in an advisory sense, he runs a podcast that has billions of views and the annual deal for it is $200m USD (compared to Brietbart which had an endowment of just $11m USD from what I can see) and has like 20 million subscribers and 5+ billion views. Rogan alone has more attention command by like 1000x compared to Brietbart.
Now ask yourself:
  1. If you were a world leader or a multinational corporate conglomerate and Trump came to your office with either (Giuliani/Bannon or Musk/Rogan), who would you take more seriously?
  2. If you were an investor of person considering starting a company, would you trust the decisions of Trump with either (Giuliani/Bannon or Musk/Rogan) attached?

It's a literal no brainer. Giuliani and Bannon were both old fucks who were out of touch with young people and haven't done anywhere near as much as someone like Musk or have the influence that Rogan has.
I think you misunderstand, Trump nor his handlers think he needs reach or influence. He is the President. He got his message out. Because what these four men share are they are grifters. And now the Republicans don't want grifters. They just want establishment people. They want nice safe conservatives that are gonna appeal to the actual republican people. Not meme magic retards
 
I love that one party controlling congress and the white house has happened multiple times in American history, fairly recently even. But only when TV and Tik Tok tell people Orange Man Bad is it now a dictatorship. Please, regale me with your tales of Project 2025 bayonetting lgbt toddlers
Sir, this is a lolcow thread.
 
Correct.

The issue was never "rich people = bad," and anyone who thinks it was never actually understood the problem, which is that "the swamp" is a large group of career politicians and people in related positions screwing over the average person if it means making more money.

(Ironically, a lot of Musk's detractors' arguments prove him right in exactly that way, unbeknownst to those very detractors: Musk buying Twitter was a huge financial gamble made with the intent of doing some societal good, despite the fact that he knew it was overpriced, that the media would come after him and try to tank the stock through reputation-destruction and destroying the brand and thereby nullify the point of the purchase in the first place entirely if they were to succeed. People like you keep claiming that Musk's investment was stupid because it was financially unsound, yet don't understand that it disproves your simultaneous narrative of him being the Hollywood caricature of an evil, rich person intent only on further enriching himself.)

To put it a different way, in case you're still struggling to understand: Musk helping to "drain the swamp" is no more illogical or hypocritical than a soldier killing another soldier of a country that's currently engaged in committing a genocide to stop that genocide from continuing. You going "yeah, but that soldier just tried to stop murders by murdering someone himself" is not the clever argument you think it is.
That's a lot of words for "I'm a dumbass who will never know the touch of a lady."
 
The myths about Musk, his supposed intelligence, and his business success are overstated. Musk did not design the Teslas, nor is he even a founder. Teslas themselves are problem-ridden cars. Teslas are cool for hyping up electric cars, but electric cars as a whole are a flawed concept. Enough annoying, accented, bearded soydems or some combustion engine enthusiasts will tell you why in their long essays, but the crux of their arguments is true. As a car, electric vehicles can never outperform combustion engines in terms of reliability and cost, and as a sustainable transport method, they can never surpass public transport.

SpaceX is cool but overhyped. Musk was not the first to make reusable rockets, it was never considered impossible and was done decades earlier. In reality, reusable rockets aren't all that impressive even a successful landing leaves the rocket damaged and in need of repairs, limiting the way it can be designed versus single-use rockets. SpaceX is cheap relative to NASA, but that's also because they are burning money and not making a profit on many of their missions. There are other competitors in their price category so their cheapness isn't even that unique.

He's a good propagandist, but plenty of former higher-ups say he's a below-average CEO. Everything with the vibe as an "Elon forced this through" idea, like the Cybertruck, the tunnel, and now those weird robots and vans, are all riddled with problems and are not profitable. A CEO should be involved, but he should also know when to delegate and not interfere in areas where expertise is required.

In the end, he has a knack for marketing his products and creating markets, which will eventually be filled by more intelligent and better-organized companies, like Tesla and electric cars.
 
As a Bonger, where 'fingering' means something very different to the US, this took me a moment.
I think the poster actually meant the character Littlefinger from Game of Thrones, rather than finger as in “to point at/select” or the sexual meaning, which are also present in the US. He’s your typical sleazy advisor to the throne trying to play 4D chess to get himself installed in positions of power with as little personal risk as possible. The GoT iteration of the trope is also an incel and arguably a pedophile, but I don’t remember the details.

Back to Musk embarrassing himself more with the meme dog, I cannot imagine being such a hideous, dysgenic man over the age of 50 who, despite having more money at his disposal than the number of years Earth has been a planet, has a sad little life revolving around cosplaying Tony Stark and playing with memes like a 13-year-old, not to mention his mommy giving interviews defending him as a smart special boy who will save the world with his smart special brain. The appearance of intelligence is far more important to him than actually being thoughtful. Really pathetic, but if he does get used as the first scapegoat of the administration it would be hilarious. That tweet of Trump insulting him is on the internet forever!
 
I love that one party controlling congress and the white house has happened multiple times in American history, fairly recently even. But only when TV and Tik Tok tell people Orange Man Bad is it now a dictatorship. Please, regale me with your tales of Project 2025 bayonetting lgbt toddlers
Look, I know you're a Thunderdomer and want to have sexual relations with an obese, elderly, senile conman so you likely are intellectually disabled and suffer from crippling autism, but you should know that it's against the site rules to white knight for a lolcow in their thread.
 
The dog can go playing with church mascot Luce.


Really pathetic, but if he does get used as the first scapegoat of the administration it would be hilarious. That tweet of Trump insulting him is on the internet forever!
I'd laugh if this happens.
Trump is mirroring the strategy of the left.

Musk is the tard and Trump is a strategist that knows little special boy needs friends.
Trump is street smart enough to know sane people are needed to get a job done but will not cross a certain line of morality.
He only uses him like caden uses Chris.
 
I'm pretty sure an autistic billionaire who has experience running numerous incredibly complex companies could min/max the FUCK out of budget.
Elon Musk can take zero credit for the functional parts of his successful companies. That recent Tesla tech demo just proved he's a more retarded Steve Jobs; an ideas guy with no good ideas.
 
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