Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

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@Catgirls are Love so does that mean that Epic and faggot Sweeny took a big fat L for pretty much nothing? Yes you can use your own/another payment processor but you still have to pay apple's cut for any purchases on their store, and for Epic they got booted off anyways, and no way after this is Apple going to put their shit on the site right? I'm also assuming that Apple could appeal the injunction if it's something they are confident on handling at appeals?

Just going by pure twitter salt it does seem that Sweeny has taken an L yet again, and that no one is buying his "standing up for the little guys/developers" bullshit.
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Pretty much, yes. What little Epic won they won't be able to take advantage of unless they can get back into the store somehow, and considering how they kicked that hornet's nest over Apple probably won't want anything to do with them for years to come. I'm not sure what's going on with the year-old injunction to protect the Unreal Engine from being cut off entirely from iOS, but if I were Epic/Sweeny I'd be doing some grovelling to prevent Apple from opting to take that route out of spite. What was gained applies to everyone on the App Store...but obviously, not Epic themselves.

One of the things that the judge didn't like was Epic's claim that Apple shouldn't be entitled to any sort of commission whatsoever for distributing, updating and advertising your app (on top of the whole building the device/operating system/market that the Apple cult buy into), so I would imagine there's wording in the ruling somewhere that says Apple is still entitled to their commission even if you don't use their payment processor, so that particular Apple Tax doesn't seem to be going away. While it's not something Apple would like, not really the end of the world. Better for Apple to collect all of the money then dole out your majority share to you instead of you collecting all of the money and then giving Apple their share. Again, I'd expect Apple's Terms of Service to be updated potentially very soon to address this, including things like "we can inspect your accounting regarding your app's microtransactions whenever we feel like it to make sure you're not stiffing us" because outside of IAP Apple doesn't really have a way to track an app's microtransactions. Maybe the iOS API will be updated to address this, maybe not. Hard to say.

But at the very least, now you can advertise other means of microtransactions/payment methods outside of IAP which you couldn't do under Apple's previous rules. Other than that, the walled garden stands for the moment.
 
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I don't see how the court had jurisdiction to grant a judgment that doesn't benefit or give any remedy to Epic, the plaintiff in the case. It seems to me the issue should have been considered moot at that point.

ETA: new Rekieta video on it.
I mostly agree with it but since he's actually been following the case since the beginning, he elaborates on it more. Also if you just want to see him get attacked by a giant wasp, that happens at 7:36.
 
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Honestly, even Epic's 'win' is such a pyrrhic victory that it might potentially be worse than nothing. Apple does have to allow them to advertise out-of-app payments, but it can collect a commission off them. It could quite well be that Apple's commission costs Epic (if they ever get back on) and others more money than having these hidden alternatives elsewhere.
 
Epic and Origin of how not to compete with Steam the only one who does it right is GOG. Then again remeber when Red Dead was a epic exclusive. It wasn't it launched first on Rockstars platform lol.
 
The Epic Games launcher is fine tbh, it pretty much operates like steam for the most part unlike some of the other dogshit launchers like the old Bethesda one. Plus so far it hasn't fucked a SSD to the point of needing a reformat like the Microsoft Store did.

Cheap (or even free) games is good enough for me and for the most part I open up games from their icon on my desktop or from the start menu so 90% of the time I don't even see the launcher in the first place unless I'm picking up the free game of the week.

Also cope + seethe at the people who will legit wait an entire year for a game they really want to hit Steam. I had a blast playing Tony Hawks 1+2, Hades and Snowrunner and all it took was an extra click at worst.
 
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Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
The Epic Games launcher is fine tbh, it pretty much operates like steam for the most part unlike some of the other dogshit launchers like the old Bethesda one. Plus so far it hasn't fucked a SSD to the point of needing a reformat like the Microsoft Store did.
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There's nothing wrong with the launcher. The issue is with the store itself, which has a ton of features missing, such as: User Reviews, linux compatibility, self curation, remote play, and VR support. It lacks features that GOG Galaxy and they know it, that's why they partnered with GOG and you can buy games from Epic through Galaxy 2.0
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Cheap (or even free) games is good enough for me and for the most part I open up games from their icon on my desktop or from the start menu so 90% of the time I don't even see the launcher in the first place unless I'm picking up the free game of the week.
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That's fine. As long as you know they're going to stop the program at some point as new users stop coming in, or if investors tell them to stop investing into the store and focus on publishing.
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Also cope + seethe at the people who will legit wait an entire year for a game they really want to hit Steam. I had a blast playing Tony Hawks 1+2, Hades and Snowrunner and all it took was an extra click at worst
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The issue with these games is the exclusivity factor. If these games were to released on every PC client, then people wouldn't be upset. What they want is to play these games on a client that rates lower than Google when it comes to privacy:https://privacyspy.org/product/epic-games/. I would like to remote play with my bro in Tony Hawk 1 & 2, but EG doesn't support it.
 
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I&T fag stopping by, wanted to bring this up here as well since I thought it was an interesting change of heart from a company headed by someone previously so averse to Linux, but it makes sense considering Valve's efforts with the Steam Deck.

Epic Online Services launches Anti-Cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Steam Deck
Epic Online Services exists to connect developers and players across all platforms, including the upcoming Steam Deck, and we’re excited to take another step in that direction.

Earlier this year, Easy Anti-Cheat for Windows games was made available to all developers, for free. Today, we extend support to Linux and Mac for developers who maintain full native builds of their games for these platforms.

To make it easy for developers to ship their games across PC platforms, support for the Wine and Proton compatibility layers on Linux is included. Starting with the latest SDK release, developers can activate anti-cheat support for Linux via Wine or Proton with just a few clicks in the Epic Online Services Developer Portal.

Easy Anti-Cheat is available for free through Epic Online Services on all PC platforms, helping all developers to uphold a fair and safe gaming experience for players on the operating system of their choice.

To get the latest SDK and read the full SDK changelog, visit the Epic Online Services Developer Portal.
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CreamyHerman’s said:
The issue with these games is the exclusivity factor. If these games were to released on every PC client, then people wouldn't be upset. What they want is to play these games on a client that rates lower than Google when it comes to privacy:https://privacyspy.org/product/epic-games/. I would like to remote play with my bro in Tony Hawk 1 & 2, but EG doesn't support it.
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And frankly, with how buggy games are these days, waiting a year before buying is just common sense. Why be the beta tester when you can buy the Definitive Edition/GOTY/Gold Edition, whatever with all the bug fixes and a completely playable game in an actual non-hostile client.

I daresay I'm not the only one who simply have a growing list of backlogs of games that I will never play because adulting means you don't get as much free time as you used to.
 
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Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
The Epic Games launcher is fine tbh, it pretty much operates like steam for the most part unlike some of the other dogshit launchers like the old Bethesda one. Plus so far it hasn't fucked a SSD to the point of needing a reformat like the Microsoft Store did.
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This was getting passed around for a while
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AirdropShitposts said:
Steam am doomed forever:
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Oh no, how will Steam ever compete with Epic Games Store! If only they had a feature allowing one to conveniently buy multiple products at once. One could even call it a shopping cart, since it would act in a similar manner.
 
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