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a full library full of crap you don't care about doesn't make much of a difference, else origin would be the number 2 after steam. the zoomers only buy v-bucks with their mom's credit card, they don't have much use or need to play anything else. maybe gtaV. they certainly aren't that eager to play the latest "deep" indie pixelcrap timmy shelled out money for. a populated list you didn't buy yourself and have no interest in is just background noise.
That's again your opinion. Minecraft was also a shitty niche indie title. There have been plenty of fantastic games given out on epic. Games like super hot, super meat boy, faster than light.
They're not just noise, and those games become yours if you have any slight interest in them. I have tons of games on steam, most of which I've never played. They fill out my library and makes it look big. Which makes it feel good. And makes me hesitant to move over somewhere else. They got me beat and if something similar happens to someone else in EGS then so be it. I planted my tree on steam therefore I always return to it and it's my default storefront. if a new pc user ends up planting their seed on EGS...
console exclusives only work if they are worth enough to reach critical mass in your social circle, and that's only if you play multi with them to begin with, and by that definition steam has epic beat as well. the majority of games played on consoles are multiplats anyway. that's also assuming you can't use both, running both steam and epic is hardly comparable to owning 2 consoles and paying for their online services each month.
It is easier to switch between the various platforms on pc yes, because there aren't any upfront cost but again you assume a bunch of things from this hypothetical group of consumers. That they a. Have steam and epic rather than being brand new to pc gaming that got on the trend because of fortnite and 2. they're not brand new to gaming in general and thereby may not even have consoles. There is a reason why there is such anger anytime epic makes a game exclusive. And it's because they're worth something, and definitely worth enough to play.
It's really important to realize they're not aiming to win over steam users directly but instead plant the seed for a new pc user that may not even be aware of steam yet. It's why fortnite is such an important opportunity for them.
discord is also a bad comparison since it filled a niche that didn't previously existed or only using several programs, and even then it's much more convenient in a single package with more features (same way steam is to epic) than whatever instant messenger + voice chat you were using, and you can even post spicy memes while doing so. that's not even close to epic trying to buy their way into an already saturated market.
I don't know what you're on about here, I used discord as a successful example of moving a userbase away from something people were used to towards something new. Which as I said, I previously thought was impossible. People are hesitant to move once they're settled in and discord proves the rule.
that was more epic themselves giving publishers the last push to go back to their in-house engines with their lawfare shit, no one wants to spend money on a possible liability. but for heavy 3d stuff unreal is still the go to for most indies that don't have other options otherwise or some jap devs. unity has only recently been shaping up in that regard and still some way to go (biggest issue being that they don't have a popular showcase for their engine, while epic has been using unreal for till it was replaced with fortnite. unity claims they don't want to compete with tier customers, which makes sense, but that also means the only thing people associate unity with are shitty asset flips where you can't disable the splash screen).
besides the engine it's much better to just be a service provider and skim off a bit while hardly doing anything, valve has operated that way for years (they certainly invested more into steam than epic does in it's store, but given the money valve made steam could still be much better). epic isn't the first wanting to be it, and certainly won't be the last. and of course what ever shenanigans their chinese investors are up to.
Yeah I know unreal isn't dead at all yet, but I wonder how much the emerging threat of unity may have caused them to need something else to skim off of the top of like they used to do with unreal engine and valve does with steam. Unity is definitely shaping up and is losing it's reputation as an asset-flipper engine which may have caused the whole store thing once get realized what they had with fortnite.