Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

Ahahahah, they didn't tell the developers they were putting their shit on sale and giving people 10 bucks off on anything they bought so people rapidly pulled their shit from the store. Paradox saw their brand new game getting $10 bucks less than what they offered it for and just pulled it. You know they fucked that up. Devs were seeing $10 less than their price and yanked everything while screaming at Epic at what in the fuck they were doing.

Unlike Steam, where you can basically have a sale anytime you want and you set the price. Jesus fucking Christ. Their enticement to sale was a free $10, and they didn't communicate this to anyone, just did it. Fucking lol. How can people fucking defend this shit? Oh wait, they can't or get paid for it.

How in the red is this fucking store? Honestly? Giving away $10 to thousands of people (or hundreds of thousands), paying for free games for every user, buying timed exclusives from entire development budgets of small games to possible six or seven digits to AAA titles, straight up buying Rocket League, taking an extraordinarily low cut to entice developers (which didn't work by the way, hence exclusives). I mean you got to spend money to make money, but I'm sure the guy who made that saying up meant 'spend your money smart' and not 'put it in a big pile, pour gasoline over it, and light it on fire'.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
It is rumored the PC version of Read Dead 2 will be Epic Exclusive.
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I'd be surprised Rockstar didn't just release it in their own Social Club platform. Which I just discovered the existence of because I almost bought GTA5 on Fanatical only to find out that it's not a Steam key, it's a Social Club key.

RDR2's such a big game, and along with GTA5, which is not just a popular game but the most profitable piece of entertainment ever produced, Take 2 would be foolish to not just sell it on their own launcher and do their own marketing. Epic would have to offer Take 2 a novelty island in Dubai made entirely out of money to make it worth their while.

While I'm here, I also noticed Heavy Rain is now on Epic, but not Steam. Heavy Rain is a former PlayStation 3 exclusive game by Quantic Dream that's very love-it-or-hate-it, which was released nine years ago. If you had any interest in it, you've probably either played it or watched it on YouTube by now. If I had the rights to Heavy Rain, I'd definitely release it on Epic if they coughed up about $30k, because it probably wouldn't sell very well on Steam. To give some perspective, Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy on Steam has 2,201 reviews, and SteamDB.info says its all time peak was 417 players.* Fahrenheit's also one of those games that shows up in bundles for next to nothing, so it's hard to estimate how many people actually bought it for full price. But considering that peak happened when it was new, I'd ballpark it at a generous 1,500 buyers. The game launched at $9.99, so that's just $15,000 before all the middlemen take their cut.

So good on Quantic Dream for taking those Fortnite Francs.

So what does Epic get out of it? Another exclusive? Well, kind of, but they now just have more dead weight. Another game on their store that doesn't have mass appeal, a game that very few people would install the launcher for, and a game that even fans of Heavy Rain (myself) would just wait until it's in a Humble Bundle, with a Steam key.

Keep wasting that money, Epic. Keep making your storefront unappealing and keep giving free money for games that wouldn't sell otherwise so smaller developers get a nice paycheck and you end up with a load of bargain bin titles that'll end up on Steam sooner or later anyway.

* I'm not sure how accurate that SteamSpy thing is, considering 200k-500k owners seems pretty high for a niche game like that. Turbo Pug 3D, a game often seen in those 30-games-for-a-dollar bundles, has the same count.
 
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HAHAHAHA...ooooh my god! This is truly a great gift to receive after being out for a day.

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What a fine fucking day it is, too..holy shit.

May Pitchford and the rest of the twats responsible for sucking off Tencent drown in their own tard cum.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
I think what Steam has to be very careful of is launching a shit version of Steam that's heavily censored, as the global one is very popular in China. I imagine this is where Tencent and Perfect World duking it out with government censors comes in, Steam's recent Chinese appeasement and proselytizing which service would be better for China. The question of 'Why isn't Valve doing anything?' is hereby answered, because we aren't looking in the right place. The battle isn't for here. Its for China. I mean Tim Sweeny thinks its for here, but he's a fucking autistic re.tard so who cares.

Dubious. Tencent wants a Steam for the Chinese market, and as long as Ubi games are on there, it doesn't much matter. I honestly think it'd create too much of a headache to shut down. I mean, they still get their money from people who buy games on U-Play. It isn't like Tencent is losing anything. Shutting U-Play down causes a whole fucking mess of problems. Epic already has an image problem. Another part of the problem is a LOT of games are very heavily integrated into U-Play, not like they are with Epic. Remember, U-Play is actually more feature complete than Epic.
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This actually brings up a major concern people outside China have with Steam doing this, which is the prospect of Steam going full Hollywood, where it doesn't even care about the market outside of that zone (which is why we are now having movies that come out, fail, and then go on to make millions, because the US isn't the target market anymore). I don't think that's a problem since Steam would have to be cutting off its nose to spite its face at that point, but I can see where the issue comes from.

The problem sure as shit isn't getting better with Tencent around though.
 
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Jaimas said:
This actually brings up a major concern people outside China have with Steam doing this, which is the prospect of Steam going full Hollywood, where it doesn't even care about the market outside of that zone (which is why we are now having movies that come out, fail, and then go on to make millions, because the US isn't the target market anymore).
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Like all unwanted change - were it to happen, it'd happen nice and slowly so people didn't bitch or notice quickly enough (and in great enough numbers). Can't bitch about skeletons or exposed internal bits being censored if you just didn't have any in your game to begin with, right?

Little, by little, by little..it all gets taken away.

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I don't think that's a problem since Steam would have to be cutting off its nose to spite its face at that point, but I can see where the issue comes from.
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I'd definitely stay away from the paranoia for now, yeah.
 
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Jaimas said:
This actually brings up a major concern people outside China have with Steam doing this, which is the prospect of Steam going full Hollywood, where it doesn't even care about the market outside of that zone (which is why we are now having movies that come out, fail, and then go on to make millions, because the US isn't the target market anymore). I don't think that's a problem since Steam would have to be cutting off its nose to spite its face at that point, but I can see where the issue comes from.

The problem sure as shit isn't getting better with Tencent around though.
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Well, my theory hinges on Tencent wanting to be the only legit thing in China without competition. So basically Tencent dominates China, makes it mostly impenetrable and then goes after Valve worldwide. But its probably too late for it to do that. Even Epic is in the same grey area as Steam. Tencent can't cut through Chinese bureaucracy any better than Steam. But Steam has already made concessions so I think it's closer to going government approved than Tencent.
 
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Supposedly someone requested their information from Epic - as per GDPR regulations - and they sent all of it to the wrong person.
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He didn't show the entire email that would include the address, so it's possible they're lying just to hop on the bandwagon.
But considering people have had their passwords compromised right after enabling 2FA this should be expected.
 
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Supposedly someone requested their information from Epic - as per GDPR regulations - and they sent all of it to the wrong person.
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He didn't show the entire email that would include the address, so it's possible they're lying just to hop on the bandwagon.
But considering people have had their passwords compromised right after enabling 2FA this should be expected.
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Are they taking notes from Bethesda?
 
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Epic Games delayed their roadmap for the second time.

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And yes, just in case you're wondering: the shopping cart is still six months out from being released.
 
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Epic Games delayed their roadmap for the second time.

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And yes, just in case you're wondering: the shopping cart is still six months out from being released.
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You would think they would make that more of a priority since people were getting flagged for multiple individual purchases.
 
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KingofNothing said:
How hard

You would think they would make that more of a priority since people were getting flagged for multiple individual purchases.
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Pfft..Fuck that noise! Spend more money on exclusives and then prance about how you're better than steam and changing the industry for the better.
 
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HeyItsHarveyMacClout said:
Literally anyone who has ever complained about Steam ever needs to take a step back. You wanna know why Steam has gotten away with not updating its UI since 2010? You wanna know why it faced no major backlash against paid mods (except removing them)? You want to know why Valve hasn't done jack shit with their IPs for years?

It's because they're a monopoly. Steam as it stands is a monopoly. No one goes for any single other games platform when buying computer games other than Steam. That's a fucking problem. Steam charges a huge amount for charging for games compared to other industries. You wanna know how much your supermarket gets paid for hosting your favorite mini wheats? 1-3%. You wanna know how much steam makes per game sold? 30%. Steam takes a massive amount of the games profit and does jack shit with that wealth other than give it to investors. They take your money and does jackshit with it

Epic games comes in and tries to shake up that market, and you shit on them to oblivion. Yes I know they're not perfect. Yes, I don't expect them to be perfect. But we need competition in this market if we ever want things to improve.

You don't have to vote with your wallet if you don't like things, but for gods sake, if you fucking hate having only one games supplier to choose when buying something, choose something other than steam.
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30% is about average for online market places. Its become industry standard.
 
Lmao just don't use app stores if you pretend to care about video games this much
 
Yeah if RDR2 was going to have a PC version, Rockstar most likely would shrug at Epic's money, 500 million to Rockstar is like what they'd make in the first day of release. It's nothing to them.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Devs were seeing $10 less than their price and yanked everything while screaming at Epic at what in the fuck they were doing.
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They can suck it. They signed up with scummy scam artists and they're surprised the people who gave them a bribe to fuck over their customers turned around and fucked them over, too?
 
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