Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

I've noticed in recent months that business meta is becoming more and more commonly discussed in the open, including the thread-relevant "We're selling games to publishers/consoles/China, not gamers" thing. Smaller companies are spilling the beans on strategies and, to a lesser extent, loopholes that are meant to be kept behind closed doors or at least not flaunted. This much open exploitation is not going to end well, and I've got a bad feeling about this overall.
 
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Tim Sweeney recently posted this regarding the Ooblets situation.
 
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KingofNothing said:
I think Tim is just fucking with people at this point
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I'd have argued that if this man didn't spend hours upon hours a day on Twitter trying to justify the storefront to people, while dunking on "entitled gamers", all whilst constantly chanting his "fuck the consumers" rhetoric.

Any other company and this man'd be fired and their associates' contracts up in smoke. But not with Daddy Fortnite's "fuck you" money; now you need to listen to Papa Sweeney and the corporations, you precious little toxic gamer peons.

EDIT: By the by, Fortnite coincidentally pissed off a lot of people today now that Season X released, due to people with low-end machines basically being told to "get fucked".
 
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OmnipotentStupidity said:
I'd have argued that if this man didn't spend hours upon hours a day on Twitter trying to justify the storefront to people, while dunking on "entitled gamers", all whilst constantly chanting his "fuck the consumers" rhetoric.

Any other company and this man'd be fired and their associates' contracts up in smoke. But not with Daddy Fortnite's "fuck you" money; now you need to listen to Papa Sweeney and the corporations, you precious little toxic gamer peons.

EDIT: By the by, Fortnite coincidentally pissed off a lot of people today now that Season X released, due to people with low-end machines basically being told to "get fucked".
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I could be wrong, but hasn't Fortnite been losing players recently? Like, I swear I heard somewhere that more and more people are dropping that game.
 
Imnotretardedimjustme said:
Isn´t it kind of funny how they conditoned our 10 year old brains to get familar with the menus in source/1.6/tf2?


So when are the asian overlords gonna put a boot up Sweeneys ass? Or is the Epic store an psyop for the chinese goverment to steal data from burgers and us eurofags? Tencent (the 2nd biggest owner of epic behind sweeney himself) seems to be bleeding money so why do they keep letting him acting like an ass on twitter? Is Tim the biggest lolcow in gaming.

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We can logically think this through.

What does Shenmue III get Epic? People who bought it already have bought it. Nobody new is coming to your storefront. So that's a waste.

Ubi is only releasing on Epic and Uplay. You can use Uplay to get around this and many have Uplay and will work away around it. So that's not 100%.

These indies are costly ventures and aren't enough to convince people to move over from Steam. These are small scale games having their development budgets paid for.

Big titles might get people there....but only for those titles.

There's simply nothing encouraging people to stay on the storefront. Having people buy one or two games you poach is not enough, because you need that money back. With 12%, you need a ton of sales to even just break even.

The exclusive model is not unsustainable simply because of the massive bleed. I have no idea why the chinks aren't stomping him, but maybe they just agree or don't know the American market enough to know any better. Maybe they are selling data. Who knows. But exclusives aren't bringing the money, that's for sure.

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Tim Sweeney recently posted this regarding the Ooblets situation.
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He has one of the most unprofessional Twitter accounts around. This controversy is only cementing hatred of the Epic store and has people going 'Fuck Sweeny, I'm advocating piracy', I hope lootbox bills pass, because then the Epic store is well and truly fucked, because they won't have Fortnite money to rely on and they'll just fucking die.

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C'mon guys, it isn't, like, the developers are wanting gamers to be gassed or anything. Right?
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This dumbfuck thinks Epic is going to support him forever. Gamers have a long, vindictive, spiteful memory. Your game is only succeeding because of Epic's welfare fund. Nearly every Epic exclusive, with the exception of Rebellion and The Division 2, has been a literal fucking dumpster fire.

Fuck indies. Let them work for their success. This is what happens when they take money. They are just as bad as AAA, because they didn't earn their success. Epic just basically saved them but now they're going to need Epic's money for every subsequent title because nobody is going to buy their game.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
The exclusive model is not unsustainable simply because of the massive bleed. I have no idea why the chinks aren't stomping him, but maybe they just agree or don't know the American market enough to know any better. Maybe they are selling data. Who knows. But exclusives aren't bringing the money, that's for sure.
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I'm actually wondering if Sweenye is just keeps assuring the Chinese guys how this whole thing will pay out in the end or how these strategies will bring down steam and have consumers flocking to 'em.
 
Medafag said:
> Telling a potential customer willing to support your product "nobody owes you the game!"



Why?, why are these people even making games?
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i really don't fucking get that reply
the person was asking for a way TO BUY THE GAME
THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEM MONEY
but the dev floundered like a cunt and did his "generic npc dev response #3-21-14-20" and shat out a "UR NOT GETTING FREE STUFF"
like, nigga, are you retarded?
 
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Cod of War said:
Checked out the PC board on GameFAQs to see what they though and came across this:

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Wait, so people that financially support the developer don’t get a key? What? In what fucking universe does that make sense? Most of the Patreon funded games are free with early builds being the backer incentive, but how the fuck would this work for a game made to be sold. And what developer is that pithy with someone who Gives Them Money?
 
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This dumbfuck thinks Epic is going to support him forever. Gamers have a long, vindictive, spiteful memory. Your game is only succeeding because of Epic's welfare fund. Nearly every Epic exclusive, with the exception of Rebellion and The Division 2, has been a literal fucking dumpster fire.

Fuck indies. Let them work for their success. This is what happens when they take money. They are just as bad as AAA, because they didn't earn their success. Epic just basically saved them but now they're going to need Epic's money for every subsequent title because nobody is going to buy their game.
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Amen. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge on how marketing works knows that you really, really don't want to piss off your customers in any way possible. MN9's famous "Make the bad guys cry like an anime fan on prom night" became a meme because of how it insulted the audience, despite its intention to be a playful jab. Ooblets, though, wow. If I worked on that game, I'd distance myself from it as much as possible, pulling whatever assets I contributed if I could, or having them attributed to Alan Smithee.

That thing you said about how he seems like he just received a check for more money than he's ever had in his life is sticking with me. Perplamps is acting like such an arrogant assclown because he just hit the jackpot, but reality is going to fuck him sideways when he wakes up one day to find all his money's gone, his reputation is tarnished, and his game isn't selling at all. It's a lot like those lottery winners that get rich overnight, go nuts, and burn it all, often ending up bankrupt or in prison.

So he might just be the newest lolcow. We should keep an eye on his antics.
 
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