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I do not even like Trump, but seeing KO, Resetera and Twitter seethe makes me think I was a Trump supporter the whole time.
 
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There's a LOT to go through here. KO absolutely lost it as the election moved along, just like 2016. Of course, the house troons are all fearing for their lives - in the election thread they were already going "gather your documents don't get doxxed fight and resist" to counter all the "IM GONNA KILL MYSELF" attention whoring posts. Mods had to give out a bunch of "please chill out" bans which is hilarious - babycoddling at its best - but I think the biggest example of the lunacy is this wonderful thread, #5 in activity according to KO, made by THE house troon:
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At least it's not doomerism, unlike this newly pinned thread
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Or this very real relationship in which the "boyfriend" doesn't know where his troon lives:
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How's our favourite Hon doing?
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Wonderful. Gotta be strong for the 15 members of the polycule I guess.

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Here's something that raised my attention, a rare glimpse of light in the
darkness, which could only realistically happen with the troons all paying attention to their own selves and their delusions of death camps - an honestly well thought out post by a lurker that speaks truth to power - and with literally 0 pushback on the entire thread (nobody replied to it though :story:) :

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Please keep posting more of these. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means but seeing the delusions these people willingly throw themselves to is some top quality schadenfreude.
 
Surprised MaddieRingtail Purple Haze wasn't having a schizo meltdown on the forums yet.
In all fairness he has what? Six different schizophrenic personalities in his head? He likely needs to check to see how each incoming policy will affect each personality.

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Here's something that raised my attention, a rare glimpse of light in the
darkness, which could only realistically happen with the troons all paying attention to their own selves and their delusions of death camps - an honestly well thought out post by a lurker that speaks truth to power - and with literally 0 pushback on the entire thread (nobody replied to it though :story:) :
I am genuinely surprised a post like that has not already been banned.
 
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Well. Not the result I as a leftist was hoping for, but we lost fair and square. No electoral fuckery required, even the popular vote was a landslide.

But it really goes to show just how much communities like KO bring this on themselves. If they want people to stop hating them (and thus voting against their interests), maybe they should stop being so fucking hateable. The other side turns out in droves just to spite them while their own side stays home because they're embarrassed to associate with them. The sad thing is that they don't just bring this shit on themselves though. They bring it on the rest of us too.

Being left-wing used to be something people admired, back in the late 2000s/early 2010s. I'll be damned if I give up my ideals and stop wearing the old colors just to join the winning side, but my god, preachy idpol freaks like KO have made leftism so fucking lame. The right wing looks hip and edgy by comparison, and voters are stupid (especially younger ones) and will vote on those kinds of vibes alone. This new generation of incoming voters are the first generation in decades to be more right-leaning than their predecessors, and these freaks just can't seem to figure out why (note to said freaks: it's because they hate you). And yet they're just not gonna stop fucking up things for the rest of us until they learn to stop being so goddamn insufferable.
 
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Yeah... totally... double down on cancelling people, purity spiraling and being perceived as crazy moral crusaders that hate fun. This will win the future.
 
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I'm convinced this all comes from Tudd Fudders. 7 years later and his specter is still felt on Knockout as the remaining users had been so "traumatized" by his presence that everything they do has this undercurrent of making sure there can never possibly be another Tudd, and meanwhile I doubt the guy even thinks about Facepunch anymore. He had his fun for a few years before moving on to greener pastures, and now they're all buck-broken forever. It's indisputable: Tudd won.
I figured I would pop in and say "Hi" post-2024 election and do something I haven't done inawhile; check on the condition of FP/Knockout. I am Tudd Fudders. I figured it would be fun to answer any questions from this time.

Some proof (Have some other DMs, but this had an old FP pic with me logged in on it): https://ibb.co/BPBnJdv

Also, I want to point out that my bread and butter during this time was generating threads per the mediafactcheckbias guidelines FP used. Obviously, I chose the news headlines and articles that FP at the time was uncomfortable seeing due to the increasing left-leaning bias on the site, but the news articles were always from places like the NYT, WSJ, WS Times, etc. And since I posted validated news sources per the community rules, I couldn't be banned without it looking very subjective (and at the time some old guard mods like Hezzy/Postal played by the rules/didn't mind a gaffe at the radical side of a video game mod forum.) I only ever seldom posted Infowars unless it was in the video section (which had barely any rules) for humor/reaction. It was a fun ride back then, a lot of banned accounts left in the wake, and from what I see here, it does appear things have gotten worse/they haven't ever self-reflected on the histeria at all.
 
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Well then, I say this with full civility, Tudd: I still fucking hate you.

You stirred them into such a ruckus that they eventually spiraled into something completely foreign to what they were, and in turn I lost my love for a community that had once felt like a home to me in its saner days, and have thus spent years drifting anonymously ever since I nuked and left. It's so far after the fact that even if there had been any practical purpose in actively antagonizing you at any point, there certainly wouldn't be nowadays, but I meant what I said in describing you "projectile shitting everywhere" in your rampage: you caused a huge chunk of collateral damage even towards those you weren't actively trolling, such as myself. This isn't even about our diametrically-opposed political ideologies, just on the very tangible impact you've had on their collective psyche and the fact that you got away scot-free with nothing but good memories while I had to witness people I once respected losing their minds and mutilating themselves into a cult of insufferable genderfreaks out of fear of you. I place their current zealotry foremost at your feet.

It accomplishes nothing other than my own catharsis at this point to say that I'll never forgive you, but I still want it on record: fuck you.
 
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Well then, I say this with full civility, Tudd: I still fucking hate you.

You stirred them into such a ruckus that they eventually spiraled into something completely foreign to what they were, and in turn I lost my love for a community that had once felt like a home to me in its saner days, and have thus spent years drifting anonymously ever since I nuked and left. It's so far after the fact that even if there had been any practical purpose in actively antagonizing you at any point, there certainly wouldn't be nowadays, but I meant what I said in describing you "projectile shitting everywhere" in your rampage: you caused a huge chunk of collateral damage even towards those you weren't actively trolling, such as myself. This isn't even about our diametrically-opposed political ideologies, just on the very tangible impact you've had on their collective psyche and the fact that you got away scot-free with nothing but good memories while I had to witness people I once respected losing their minds and mutilating themselves into a cult of insufferable genderfreaks out of fear of you. I place their current zealotry foremost at your feet.

It accomplishes nothing other than my own catharsis at this point to say that I'll never forgive you, but I still want it on record: fuck you.

Honestly, I'm sad to hear it has affected you in this way, and I can understand some of your anger. Hopefully, you can understand I made my account in 2010 (I had an older one in 2006 or 2007 as well), so when I say FP was also a home for me, it truly was. Before 2015, it was actually a pretty funny forum for antics that didn't take itself very seriously since most people in the Gmod understood it was just a forum for modding a game... and not some weird version of SomethingAwful with a Red Guard.

As a gamer myself, it was also a very fun place to find and discover very talented people in the Gmod community. So, for the community to die out in such a pitiful way and become what it is now is not how I actually would have wanted FP to go. I only started what I did around 2015 (before that, I was fairly apolitical/only ever debated from, at the time, a libertarian-lean in news threads) because I noticed an undeniable pattern of bias in the "Sensationalist Headlines" section where there was a gap in particular articles (anything counter-left) never getting posted. Certain posters/mods dominated with gravitas any counter-view on Trump. I thought the sub-forum was highly narrow on the same themes/narratives being shown and people complaining in repetitive ways. So I started posting a lot into that sub-forum, developed a more conservative posture, and did it in lampooning but extremely cordial style, and it just turned into a game where posting news was seen as harmful or even dangerous. At the time, I had no idea how much it could mentally scar people to post news counter to a POV, but I do think a lot of people latched on to me so long after the fact because I was likely the only voice that ever bounced anything back in a blunt way post-2016. There were probably only like 2-3 (I wish I could name the others, but it was few) of us on the forum that ever said anything dynamically different than a democrat/left-wing perspective back then. I can easily be the zeitgeist boogeyman for people simply because the state of things was already there.

Maybe it would have been better if I had just left FP in 2016. Either way, I don't think I was the main reason Facepunch died. What I did was more so a coroner who saw an obvious problem in the direction of FP was already going and played off what existed as a growing echo chamber that many forums were experiencing - a hard shift to the left-wing purity testing rather than a wild west of what internet forums use to be. There are other more significant reasons Facepunch died as well, namely the owner's lack of interest in keeping the original Gmod spirit alive. Also, Reddit was doing better at holding such audiences together for other video games, and Rust wasn't injecting much into the forum in a positive way... Not to mention that Facepunch lost a sense of humor that made it transgressive and creatively inspiring before.

But I will say sorry because I agree that I didn't help with accelerating a pattern; I thought maybe at the time it would make people realize they were being hysterical over nothing, like the amount of people who got banned for threatening a user posting news... and things would change from the antics of it. Either way, I don't think it can be said that the users who have such problems now wouldn't have them if I hadn't existed; the more prominent trends at other forums like Reddit, ResetEra, and others show that this was inevitable for a lot of people go down self-destructive paths over silly things. There is simply a lot of people who need to work on themselves and not get worked up the way they do on the internet.
 
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Tudd you're a hero and you gave me many hearty laughs with your antics. Tell me, what motivated you to provoke them so much back in the day. Also, please go into detail on your current thoughts about knockout.

Background: A lot of people got banned for shitposting/flaming or being lazy with sourcing. Seeing how I had been around the block for many of the crazier/highly antical mass bannings of FP, I knew truly what the higher mods cared to ban or not ban from developing a relationship with them by just DMing them. I wanted to keep an FP for the gaming side of things at the time (there were already very sensitive moderators mass permabanning for very silly reasons).

So it became highly amusing the first time I posted some news articles in Sensationalist Headlines (ironically a great sub-forum name created back when Facepunch had humor) that were counter-narrative but still followed the sourcing guidelines and led to people blatantly and without due regard flaming/shitposting/and even outright making threats and getting themselves banned en masse. Still, I learned that it was always better to kill people with kindness (Believe me, I did respond with essay worths of posts if you saw my post history; the problem was it was at minimum a 5v1, and I simply consolidated my responses to one long post after I would wake up to like 5-10 pages of new responses). I continually asked the mods like Hezzy/Postal behind the scenes if I had followed the guidelines beforehand, and they also thought the reactions were ridiculous compared to what FP was used to before. The feedback loop was thus borne and honestly was a rinse-and-repeat from there. There was a divide with the moderators that led to the antics that played out, but I would also like to point out there was another smaller group on the FP discord (that later I was banned from) that helped to coordinate things with the other mods for some of the things that led to knockout/or the banning of other dissenting voices.

As for Knockout. I was only on it for a bit before getting banned (by this point Hezzy was getting absolutely roasted/other mods gave up). From the get-go, I felt it was the actual death knell of what Facepunch is and was just a boring version of other forums. I honestly hadn't cared to look at it in-depth besides the occasional glance here and some people DMing me to return somehow and show me what was happening. In the life I got real busy and can say I rarely post on forums anymore. I just have some time right now and figured I do a check-in 2024 with the timing/some downtime making me curious to see what is going on.
 
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I figured I would pop in and say "Hi" post-2024 election and do something I haven't done inawhile; check on the condition of FP/Knockout. I am Tudd Fudders. I figured it would be fun to answer any questions from this time.

Some proof (Have some other DMs, but this had an old FP pic with me logged in on it): https://ibb.co/BPBnJdv

Also, I want to point out that my bread and butter during this time was generating threads per the mediafactcheckbias guidelines FP used. Obviously, I chose the news headlines and articles that FP at the time was uncomfortable seeing due to the increasing left-leaning bias on the site, but the news articles were always from places like the NYT, WSJ, WS Times, etc. And since I posted validated news sources per the community rules, I couldn't be banned without it looking very subjective (and at the time some old guard mods like Hezzy/Postal played by the rules/didn't mind a gaffe at the radical side of a video game mod forum.) I only ever seldom posted Infowars unless it was in the video section (which had barely any rules) for humor/reaction. It was a fun ride back then, a lot of banned accounts left in the wake, and from what I see here, it does appear things have gotten worse/they haven't ever self-reflected on the histeria at all.
I'm also one of those 2012-joining faggots that saw the whole thing go down throughout 2016, and I don't think that what you did really changed the eventual place Facepunch, now Knockout, would end up in

Over the years I've observed similar deterioration at many communities. Facepunch is just one example of many, where deranged troons came to power and turned the place into a total clownshow, hostile to any intelligent life.

I mean, they have literal Gollum-larpers there now. When I show these kinds of posts to people from other communities, they think I'm taking the piss.

Well. Not the result I as a leftist was hoping for, but we lost fair and square. No electoral fuckery required, even the popular vote was a landslide.

But it really goes to show just how much communities like KO bring this on themselves. If they want people to stop hating them (and thus voting against their interests), maybe they should stop being so fucking hateable. The other side turns out in droves just to spite them while their own side stays home because they're embarrassed to associate with them. The sad thing is that they don't just bring this shit on themselves though. They bring it on the rest of us too.

Being left-wing used to be something people admired, back in the late 2000s/early 2010s. I'll be damned if I give up my ideals and stop wearing the old colors just to join the winning side, but my god, preachy idpol freaks like KO have made leftism so fucking lame. The right wing looks hip and edgy by comparison, and voters are stupid (especially younger ones) and will vote on those kinds of vibes alone. This new generation of incoming voters are the first generation in decades to be more right-leaning than their predecessors, and these freaks just can't seem to figure out why (note to said freaks: it's because they hate you). And yet they're just not gonna stop fucking up things for the rest of us until they learn to stop being so goddamn insufferable.
Yes, the sad thing about Knockout is that it's not even a good place for actual leftists to post in. It's a far cry from the "communist hellhole" some rightoids here may think it is. Knockout is full of the most civility-brained, EU and NATO-stanning, status-quo-worshipping neoliberal losers in existence -- and that's precisely what makes them so hateable. This is completely independent of their troonery as well -- I know and browse forums where the trannies at least have the guts to fedpost and cheer for their enemies getting killed. Those people at least believe in something.

Knockouters don't believe in anything. They are completely spineless. There is not a single revolutionary or radical thought in their brains, to the point where they ban even the slightest hint of violent action. They follow the mainstream in lockstep, and start pearlclutching at the slightest hint of any rich bastards actually being hurt (like when those bozos got owned in that Titanic submarine) and will regularly seethe about the evil "tankies" (whatever they might imagine those being), much harder than they seethe about this Kiwifarms thread. In fact, they might have even deluded themselves into thinking this forum is dead.

When they say "resist", what they really mean is "squeeze their fat asses into a gamer chair consuming treats while crying about white cisgender males online" (ignoring that they once were those white cisgender males, just a few years prior). Their idea of "change" is waiting 4 more years to VOOOOOOOT for another dogshit Democrat, who isn't going to improve their lives one bit -- but hooooooo boy, they sure can act smug and pretend that they owned the Republicans real good when their sports team wins! Oh, and fawn for spineless opportunistic worms like Bernie and AOC, who fold to the Democrat establishment whenever it's convenient.

What's also hilarious is that they will talk big about how they are against racism and prejudice, and then immediately turn around and lap up the latest tabloid propaganda about the evil orientals, like Russians, North Koreans, or the Chinese. They cannot fathom that the same governments that are treating them like shit might also be lying to them about its geopolitical enemies. Long gone are the days of requiring Media Bias Fact Check -- now you can just post dogshit right from the Daily Star, and as long as it's about something they agree with, they won't even question it.

My hate for Knockout developed long before I ever visited Kiwifarms. They earned my hate all on their own.
 
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