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I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.
 
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I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.
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Papa stink said:
I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.
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I finished Lonesome Road. While I prefer DLCs like Honest Hearts and Old World Blues a lot more, Lonesome Road is a masterpiece, the ambient is fucking fantastic. Exploring the Divide by yourself with ED-E in one of the most lonely -nopunintended- places in the game is certainly a tremendous experience.

I know people make fun of him because "The Bear and the Bull", but I loved Ulysses in my run, he's certainly one of the best antagonists in the game and probably one of the most fleshed-out characters made in Fallout, and considering that they build up three DLCs to the encounter with the two Couriers certainly puts a lot of weight to it, the final confrontation to him feels like a final boss without even being a final boss in the grand scheme of New Vegas. I mean, LOOK, the final scenery with the Old World US flag right in front of him when the world is going to end. Is a fantastic final boss scenario.

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In my run I let him live, because I feel that he deserves it, even if he hates you and want you dead because of what happened in The Divide, when you make him understand the flag you're fighting on, it certainly gets better and decides to support you. Also, since I'm doing a run supporting Mr. House, I decided to stop the nukes from going off, I know the cool armor you get from nuking both of them, but since I'm sticking to roleplay (more on this in a sec.) I decided this time to not get them.

I even installed a mod and made him a companion, like it was originally intended. And he's certainly awesome as such. And he will be there with me when the Second Battle of Hoover Dam starts, it seems just appropiate that the guy that was mentioned during the three DLCs follows you in the final battle, you know?

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And the final ending slide of the DLC ... It's one of the best I've ever seen from this franchise. I can see why so many people, me included, see this as the true ending to the franchise.

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It's like the phrase was always incomplete the entire time when you heard it from the original games, and Ulysses ends it to give the true meaning of the message in his final line. It's so beautifully written that it hit me hard the first time I've read it. It gives the sense of finality that feels rewarding and pretty well deserved.

I love this DLC in its entirety. The only thing that I disliked about it is that they decided to put the roleplay aspect on the game away in this one by giving the Courier way too many backstory, but I think it makes a little bit of sense because your character starts as a courier and you can decide on yourself when did he give that package that destroyed Hopeville.
 
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Serbian Peacekeepers said:
The thing about Europe is that it also went through a war in the 2060s prior to the great war, so the place was already fucked up before the Nukes dropped. All I want to know is where are my roving gangs of French Raiders who worship Wine like a god?
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I'm more interested in finding out if there is a french version of the white glove society that captures people in the night like super mutants, drags them into french versions of vaults and stuffs them like pigs for months to prepare their livers for a cannibal foie gras feast. Perhaps recruiting some of them by dipping them master style into a vat of radioactive wine

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Both of them lead to power armour and both are homosexual. What did obsidian mean by this?
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Power armor is for power bottoms?

Conquer me caesar, conquer me good, degenerates like me belong on your cross. Power fist me like one of your praetorian guards - arcade
 
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Papa stink said:
I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.
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This has been pointed out multiple times. It’s obvious Todd Howard had a chip on his shoulder with Obsidian making a successful game, hence why in 2018 he announced that all future Fallout titles were going to be made in-house.

r/Fallout and r/FalloutNV had users that were pointing this out and the former deleted most of the posts and the former got nuked and a new subreddit was created which is now full of glowing reviews of the show. It’s amazing what these corporations will do to sell their slop.
 
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Nicholas II of Russia said:
by giving the Courier way too many backstory
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I don't think it's so bad, especially with the options you can give. At the end of the day, all that's truly forced on the player is that their character visited this specific settlement a few times and unknowingly blew it up. Still room to interpret 99% of his life otherwise.
 
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Hey, wanna see the sperg who made a video about the Confederacy comparing the NCR to Joe Biden?
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It's always hilarious to see midwits tackle fallout politics.
Being judgemental towards slavery in a world that consists of primarily tribals and city states is just silly. Caesar isn't even bringing it back. Slavery was common in the wasteland far before there ever was a Legion. Caesar primarily just saw that the world was operating by Iron Age rules and sensibilities and decided bringing back the Iron Age juggernaut made the most sense.

I don't think House was ever intended to be a libertarian either. He's got the same ambition as Caesar or the NCR. He's just going about it differently. The NCR wants to bring back the time of pre great war nation states. Legion wants an Empire that can conquer the continent. House wants to bring back and surpass the pre war technology, with himself as autarch.
 
Finally knuckled down and finished New Vegas Bounties III for the first time in many years. I have to say, it bothered me less than it did that first time, maybe because I was more sympathetic to the story being told than I was the first time, and find the idea of a villain who well and truly beats you no matter what you do kind of an interesting idea, even if the execution is a bit shit.

The biggest flaw with the mod is simply that there is no good way to defend or explain yourself at all. The whole beginning, where Virgil, who is totally NOT Marko by the way and NO you can't see through this paper thin alias and just kill him right away, tries to show you the horrid consequences of your actions in the first two mods by showing you the fallout from killing who you killed then guilt tripping you over it.

Oh, yeah, I shouldn't stop murderers and rapists because they have families too. Boo hoo.

One option that lets you poke a hole in that argument that isn't written to characterize you as a sociopathic retard would be nice.

And if it was JUST Marko I could probably look past it since there is a very specific dynamic he's clearly going for here, but it happens all the time. Choosing to kill Glanton over saving the kids gets you REAMED by Randall but you can't just say "Hey, Glanton routinely butchers children. I sacrificed seven to save potentially hundreds down the line. He will literally never stop killing tribals, ever."

On a good note though, finding Brookshire in the NCR embassy and telling him "I'd kill you in front of the fucking president you piece of shit, I don't care where we are." Was immensely satisfying. More games should let you murder guys of that particular line of employment.

Anyways, still a good mod. I can't complain too much given the writing is still leagues better than most quest mods I've played.
 
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Finally knuckled down and finished New Vegas Bounties III for the first time in many years. I have to say, it bothered me less than it did that first time, maybe because I was more sympathetic to the story being told than I was the first time, and find the idea of a villain who well and truly beats you no matter what you do kind of an interesting idea, even if the execution is a bit shit.

The biggest flaw with the mod is simply that there is no good way to defend or explain yourself at all. The whole beginning, where Virgil, who is totally NOT Marko by the way and NO you can't see through this paper thin alias and just kill him right away, tries to show you the horrid consequences of your actions in the first two mods by showing you the fallout from killing who you killed then guilt tripping you over it.

Oh, yeah, I shouldn't stop murderers and rapists because they have families too. Boo hoo.

One option that lets you poke a hole in that argument that isn't written to characterize you as a sociopathic retard would be nice.

And if it was JUST Marko I could probably look past it since there is a very specific dynamic he's clearly going for here, but it happens all the time. Choosing to kill Glanton over saving the kids gets you REAMED by Randall but you can't just say "Hey, Glanton routinely butchers children. I sacrificed seven to save potentially hundreds down the line. He will literally never stop killing tribals, ever."

On a good note though, finding Brookshire in the NCR embassy and telling him "I'd kill you in front of the fucking president you piece of shit, I don't care where we are." Was immensely satisfying. More games should let you murder guys of that particular line of employment.

Anyways, still a good mod. I can't complain too much given the writing is still leagues better than most quest mods I've played.
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There was a fan rewrite that got deleted. Have no idea why. It made Marko less of a guilt-tripping hypocrite and more of an actual foil to you. A lot more of his conversations are about how you both aren't normal and how civilizations, whether it be the NCR or the Legion, collapse because everyone will become too weak from being sheltered, so the current state of the wasteland is overall an improvement for people than a detriment in his view.

The final confrontation is a lot better too. Really wish it was voice-acted. His dialogue is ecstatic about you being alive. It proves his thoughts about you were true, and there is something that differentiates you from everyone else. You can also call him a delusional fucking maniac, which is more than what Someguy gave you.
 
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