If my hunger for isometric Fallout isn't sated by Sonora, I'll consider playing F2 with most recent RPU and talking heads add-on, and maybe companion expansion (which includes Miria mod). But yeah, I wouldn't try to install anything mid-game.
I'd post the video but I cannot fucking find it now.
Yea in that one quest where you meet the robots in the ship that think they're in the navy the first mate has dummied out dialogue saying they were able to locate Nora's service record just like Nate.
Would it be this mod?
The statement "-Removed conditions so female Sole Survivor says her army veteran lines."
I'm asking if we know which lines specifically this is referring to, so it could be confirmed that they're there even in the cherry release of Fallout 4. As of now, none of this seems to be documented or confirmed, which is ridiculous for a 9 year old game.
In fairness Fallout 4 is not a very good game. Meticulous documentation of the lore and content probably doesn't exist to the degree that it does for Fallout New Vegas or Skyrim.
I mean, we have Tribal Power Armor from The Pitt. There's also the Boomers with their artillery and that Bomber, among other things. not to mention the Canaanites learning how to use m1911 (not called that in-game but it's that gun). I'd imagine Tribes varying in tech levels, maybe some discovering technology from various means and practicing with it. Would explain why even Raiders such as the druggie Friends can use Energy Weapons and the "raiders" of Fo4 (ffs really? Just "raiders?") can even construct PA, among other things just fine. With Nora, she's just woken up from a 200+ year stupor and can find the closest PA (either the crashed helicopter or Concord) and use it immediately with no obvious training as well as know its capabilities (inertia cancelling for example aka no fall damage, which already is an issue by itself).
Someone once said that New Vegas is the true Fallout 3 (and in a sense, they're right, since many of its factions and characters were originally slated for Van Buren).
That's another thing New Vegas does right. It has callbacks to the Black Isle games without being lazy nostalgiawank.
All fair points except I'll point out that the Zion tribals knowing how to use guns does in fact have a lore explanation, two in fact.
Yeah, personally I find it cool that Van Buren did kind of end up being created, even if not in the form it was originally meant to.
Fuck, how could I forget Randall?
New Vegas is a post-apocalyptic game, which is why it feels organic since why would anyone-years after the end of the world at the time-not rebuild? Something Bethesda can't wrap their heads around.
The only thing Slopthesda thought Fallout was about was trashpunk hence their hard-on for tin shacks and 200 year old bags of chips. For some time now their open world RPGs have been plagued with the entire in-game world being carnivalesque and every place needing some stupid gimmick. And hey, having a few towns or places with some stupid gimmick isn't bad per se, but when every single one of them needs some dumb gimmick which isn't in any way connected to the rest of the in-game world, you have a problem.
Even in Fallout 4, they drop the ball on that. Like that meme posted upthread, it doesn't look like a nuke hit Boston. Most of the city proper is still intact, and everything is still bright with a fresh coat of paint.
We do know that the player's tribe in Arroyo develoved into ooga booga spear chucking, yoga pant wearing mixed race niggers because we get to see it firsthand. The only piece of advanced technology we see is The Temple of Trials, which we can assume all the resources the vault dwellers brought with them were used up making. The only gun we see is the one the elder has in the intro, and we can assume that one is broken since it's never used or brought up in any way. In Fallout 2, when we're talking about any kind of tribals, we are usually talking about the spear chucking kind, to the point where there is a stigma against them(even Cass brings it up years later, feeling ashamed that she's somewhat good with using one, which mirrors what Cassidy himself said in Fallout 2).
I imagine there were people who had the know-how to either repair and maintain old power plants or make their own. The wastelanders probably didn't have those skills but people from Vaults probably did and there are quite a few settlements established by them after their vaults opened.
Uranium was running out too.
Yeah, Fallout 2 already establishes pretty clearly that people are recovering and living in a post-post-apocalypse, with the NCR and places like New Reno existing.
Ah. Now that you mention it, I seem to remember something from the Wiki (probably lore from Van Buren?) that the government revoked the Grand Canyon's national park status so it could be mined for uranium.
No problem, Fallout lore was a mess even before Slopthesda got their hands on it, easy to forget what happened and what didn't and what got retconned and what didn't.
Though I would still contend that for all its flaws, Bethesda's F3 is canon.
