I'm asking if we know which lines specifically this is referring to, so it could be confirmed that they're there even in the cherry release of Fallout 4. As of now, none of this seems to be documented or confirmed, which is ridiculous for a 9 year old game.
In fairness Fallout 4 is not a very good game. Meticulous documentation of the lore and content probably doesn't exist to the degree that it does for Fallout New Vegas or Skyrim.
I mean, we have Tribal Power Armor from The Pitt. There's also the Boomers with their artillery and that Bomber, among other things. not to mention the Canaanites learning how to use m1911 (not called that in-game but it's that gun). I'd imagine Tribes varying in tech levels, maybe some discovering technology from various means and practicing with it. Would explain why even Raiders such as the druggie Friends can use Energy Weapons and the "raiders" of Fo4 (ffs really? Just "raiders?") can even construct PA, among other things just fine. With Nora, she's just woken up from a 200+ year stupor and can find the closest PA (either the crashed helicopter or Concord) and use it immediately with no obvious training as well as know its capabilities (inertia cancelling for example aka no fall damage, which already is an issue by itself).
Someone once said that New Vegas is the true Fallout 3 (and in a sense, they're right, since many of its factions and characters were originally slated for Van Buren).
That's another thing New Vegas does right. It has callbacks to the Black Isle games without being lazy nostalgiawank.
All fair points except I'll point out that the Zion tribals knowing how to use guns does in fact have a lore explanation, two in fact.
Yeah, personally I find it cool that Van Buren did kind of end up being created, even if not in the form it was originally meant to.
Fuck, how could I forget Randall?
New Vegas is a post-apocalyptic game, which is why it feels organic since why would anyone-years after the end of the world at the time-not rebuild? Something Bethesda can't wrap their heads around.
The only thing Slopthesda thought Fallout was about was trashpunk hence their hard-on for tin shacks and 200 year old bags of chips. For some time now their open world RPGs have been plagued with the entire in-game world being carnivalesque and every place needing some stupid gimmick. And hey, having a few towns or places with some stupid gimmick isn't bad per se, but when every single one of them needs some dumb gimmick which isn't in any way connected to the rest of the in-game world, you have a problem.
Even in Fallout 4, they drop the ball on that. Like that meme posted upthread, it doesn't look like a nuke hit Boston. Most of the city proper is still intact, and everything is still bright with a fresh coat of paint.
We do know that the player's tribe in Arroyo develoved into ooga booga spear chucking, yoga pant wearing mixed race niggers because we get to see it firsthand. The only piece of advanced technology we see is The Temple of Trials, which we can assume all the resources the vault dwellers brought with them were used up making. The only gun we see is the one the elder has in the intro, and we can assume that one is broken since it's never used or brought up in any way. In Fallout 2, when we're talking about any kind of tribals, we are usually talking about the spear chucking kind, to the point where there is a stigma against them(even Cass brings it up years later, feeling ashamed that she's somewhat good with using one, which mirrors what Cassidy himself said in Fallout 2).
I imagine there were people who had the know-how to either repair and maintain old power plants or make their own. The wastelanders probably didn't have those skills but people from Vaults probably did and there are quite a few settlements established by them after their vaults opened.
Uranium was running out too.
Yeah, Fallout 2 already establishes pretty clearly that people are recovering and living in a post-post-apocalypse, with the NCR and places like New Reno existing.
Ah. Now that you mention it, I seem to remember something from the Wiki (probably lore from Van Buren?) that the government revoked the Grand Canyon's national park status so it could be mined for uranium.
No problem, Fallout lore was a mess even before Slopthesda got their hands on it, easy to forget what happened and what didn't and what got retconned and what didn't.
Though I would still contend that for all its flaws, Bethesda's F3 is canon.
Capital Wasteland had Olney Powerworks, which was still powered by some sort of experimental tesla power source(hinted at to be reverse engineered alien technology, we do have confirmation that aliens crashed near DC even before the war and there was even going to be a cut Outcast quest revolving around that). We can assume that the region went back to the stone ages when that tesla coil was taken away and used to create Tesla Cannons at the end of Broken Steel. As for Boston, Fusion Cores(which are also in Fallout Tactics BTW) are self sufficient nuclear reactors that can work continuously without maintenance for over 200 years. Just don't ask why all that juice is wasted in less than 15 minutes the moment it's plugged into a suit of power armor(only in Fallout 4, as similar power sources are confirmed to last over 100 years of active use as per Fallout 1/2 description) or why one at full charge can only give you 1000 blasts from a gatling laser(or why you would need one to power it when we established that microfusion cells and electron charge packs also power similar weapons and are probably much less expensive to manufacture).
You still need Petroleum to fuel the industry and we can assume that most vehicles would still need oil rather than juice, especially for such a technologically stunted nation like China. That's the ultimate irony of the Fallout universe: It was at the point where a few more breakthrus would lead to nearly limitless and cheap energy sources, but basic human nature and greed led to the destruction of the world out of spite. Something something never changes, but I guess even that's out of the picture now that the TV show established that the main theme of the franchise is "Crapitalism is BAD!" and "Nukes are FUNNY!".
The ethos of the pre war world is sound, problem is that most people only know about that period thanks to Todd's games and Emil's awful writing(or the Amazon show now, I guess). There is a very good set of logs in Sierra Army Depot in Fallout 2 that gives you a good idea of what the world was like right before the bombs.
Its 100 years of use in power armor, but its been 200 years of intermittent use powering buildings. Yeah, they're not going to be the most reliable when shoved into something that has a massive drain like power armor or a Gatling laser. MF cells also deplete over time, even if they do last a lot longer than their energy cell predecessors.
I think Bethesda hates weapons in general.
I mean, yeah. The old devs would also contradict eachother constantly by giving completely different answers when asked virtually the same question. lol.
I have no idea what the fuck .32 anything was doing in the Capital Wasteland. It would make sense in New Vegas since .32 was popular in the 1880's and 1890's, but the East Coast? They really, really dropped the ball there.