Fallout series

[The handsome tard]

I wonder what Ceasar would think about Ashur from The Pitt and Arthur Maxson from F4. These three are so different on some aspects but similar in others. Ceasar already made it clear he hates the BOS and their motto, but I can imagine a small part of him would respect Arthur's pragmatic ruthlessness and Ashur's determination in actually wanting to build something out of The Pitt no matter the cost.

I get your point, but after thinking about it, I could see maybe one or two troons being in Fallout; albeit in some extremely raunchy and debauched location, like Gomorrah or some Outer Vegas roach motel brothel. It is Sin City, after all.

You are sort of right but its a very specific context dependent circunstance where that could work but you see, unlike today, it will still be framed as an act of social degeneracy instead of something to be accepted and defended.

There is a reason why, mostly before the 2020's, movies mostly portrayed trannies as ugly freaks.

Out of nearly 2 dozen playthroughs of New Vegas, I cannot bring myself to side with anyone other than NCR.

I can't side with the Legion, because the Legion is a faction of Nick Fuentes clones. They wear football pads and skirts. San Francisco is less faggoty than that.

I can't go independent, because I don't give a shit about the Strip or Outer Vegas riffraff. It only benefits niggers like the fiends and Khans.

Mr. House? Fuck him.

Say what you want about the bureaucrats and politicians of NCR. I side with them because I want to alleviate the burdens of the troops suffering under them, not because I care about Muh Democracy or anything.

Spoiler: The "ideal" NCR ending

The ideal ending for the NCR, in my opinion anyway, would be to have Kimbal and Lee Oliver perish at Hoover Dam and have a new president and Chief Hanlon take over the military or Hell, if you did that much of a good job, have the Courier take over that position out of sheer popular demand and with the support of Hanlon. I am very sure that most at the NCR would know that a good karma Courier that 100% every NCR mission is the ideal choice to lead the armed forces into becoming a powerful but fair force for good in the wastes.

The troops literally say "If you were serving, you'd be halfway to general right about now".

The NCR only got to where it is now thanks to Tandi and her father's strong but fair leadership for over two generations. And The Legion only got to where it is right now thanks to Ceasar. See a pattern? Good leadership can make or break a nation and the NCR is really needing good leaders that care about the little guy as much as the big picture.

His introduction feels like just this random guy coming out of nowhere, sperging about Bears and Bulls and Couriers, blaming you for the Divide getting blown up, and deciding to blow up everything else because "hurrdurr, me is mad about stuff."

Eh, you can just play Lonesome Road as The Courier being accused of shit they never did and Ulysses is a bit damaged goods from his very harsh upbringing and what he is doing is simply what "makes sense" for him to do.

Lonesome Road can get a bit too philosophical indeed tho, but I'd much rather have that than Bethesda tier dialogue from F4 and the Amazon TV show.

Not something Fallout related directly, but I just opened /fog/, the /vg/ Fallout general, and the latest posts I see are some tranny BBC fetish roleplaying instead of talking about the game

https://archive.fo/XjiPb

If images don't load up, here is another link:

https://archive.ph/KLBdL

It should be noted that the general is predominantly filled with Fallout 4 and 76 Bethesda fanboys. The OP of that thread is also a fetish image where the user is attracted to one of the robots in the game, a group of people that were not in any way relevant or I have any evidence even existed within the fandom before Fallout 4.
Bethesda apologists, your response?

Come on, it cant be that bad. *clicks link, reads it*

Well. That was a mistake...

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

https://projectvanburen.com/

the stop the 900 pages of legion versus NCr slap fights you guys would probably enjoy project Van Buren

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

And its still taken him years of raiding for slaves and resources, a complete revision of Legion combat doctrine into cohorts from their former maniples, and a massive campaign of raiding and rear-area sabotage against the NCR for him to feel confident enough to make the push. The Legion got absolutely wrecked in the first battle, and Caesar is paranoid enough about another defeat to the point where he considers Lanius being quite willing to sacrifice every single Legionary he has to take the dam quite acceptable.

The legion literally is winning throughout the entire campaign they've taken Nelson they literally have a spy in the NCR main base of operations
Nipton important outpost is destroyed make you much more harder to get supplies to the front
camp Searchlight is completely destroyed the main base blocking Caesars legion from that side of the Colorado.
They destroy one of the main Ranger stations
you literally have to fight off most of the legion to get to lanius.
Without you dragging them over the finish line they would lose spectacularly in the second battle of Hoover Dam and unlike the NCR they've learned from their mistakes

 

[Meat Target]

Eh, you can just play Lonesome Road as The Courier being accused of shit they never did and Ulysses is a bit damaged goods from his very harsh upbringing and what he is doing is simply what "makes sense" for him to do.

That feels like a cop-out for overdone writing. Ulysses had so much potential. He was originally slated to be a Legion-sympathizing companion in the base game, but that was scrapped because he had too much dialogue to fit on the disc.

Instead, who we got in the final cut was Josh Sawyer's rambling self-insert.

 

[KSachiko77]

Siding with House gets you a bitchin' pad and all your needs taken care of while House respects you as his right hand man.
Siding with the Legion gets you turned into its Augustus and we all know what that nigga did in history for Rome.
Siding with NCR gets you A FUCKING BRANCH

Do NCRcucks really?

NCR has fucked up problems but taking it from the POV of the courier at the time makes sense in a lot of ways. The NCR military is dysfunctional in its efforts in the Mojave but it also provides a lot of infrastructure, education, relief programs and capital to the region as a whole. House keeps the Strip orderly but his immediate ambitions don't stretch beyond that and he butts heads with the other minor factions to a very large degree with about as much leeway as Caesar. Caesar speaks a big game but every time you see the legion, they're wrecking everything in sight and they treat their women like shit. Independent is the most favorable option for advancing yourself and playing your cards right means that everybody involved the Mojave gets a truly new lease on life but then you're largely chained to New Vegas. As I take it, someone who wants to realize a grand ambition would go independent and someone who's more laidback could just let the NCR take over and keep doing jobs with them.

 

[God of Nothing]

Caesar speaks a big game but every time you see the legion, they're wrecking everything in sight and they treat their women like shit

You know it!
...oh wait, you think that's a bad thing

 

[Meat Target]

Siding with House gets you a bitchin' pad and all your needs taken care of while House respects you as his right hand man.

That bitchin' pad becomes all mine once I open Mr. House's germophobe coffin.

Siding with the Legion gets you turned into its Augustus and we all know what that nigga did in history for Rome.

Nah, more than likely, your sons, and your sons' sons will spend their lives as personal catamites to Centurion Sodomus Prostatus Stimulus.

[Intelligence 7] a faction of Romeaboos would have a widespread-yet-unacknowledged appetite for little boys.

 

[Snekposter]

[Intelligence 7] a faction of Romeaboos would have a widespread-yet-unacknolwedged appetite for little boys.

The Legion's homosexual tendencies are well-known enough among the people of New Vegas that Major Knight at the Mojave Outpost is forced to keep quiet about his own orientation despite the NCR being a bit more open and tolerant back home. You better believe children get used as part of their indoctrination.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

The Legion's homosexual tendencies are well-known enough among the people of New Vegas that Major Knight at the Mojave Outpost is forced to keep quiet about his own orientation despite the NCR being a bit more open and tolerant back home. You better believe children get used as part of their indoctrination.

Of course the profligates when spread such slander about the legion we do not ******** our boys that is something only profligates would do degenerates like you belong on a cross

 

[ColonelCadaver]

And its still taken him years of raiding for slaves and resources, a complete revision of Legion combat doctrine into cohorts from their former maniples, and a massive campaign of raiding and rear-area sabotage against the NCR for him to feel confident enough to make the push.

That's why he's a likely winner. Military failures are even more valuable than the greatest hits., mainly because they're providing so-needed reality check for the big brass. And besides, after "sacrificing alot of troops", legion still (going by the ending slides) has enough strength to drive the remainder of the NCR beyond the outpost, with them offering no major resistance, meaning that this battle is decisive for both sides.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

That's why he's a likely winner. Military failures are even more valuable than the greatest hits., mainly because they're providing so-needed reality check for the big brass. And besides, after "sacrificing alot of troops", legion still (going by the ending slides) has enough strength to drive the remainder of the NCR beyond the outpost, with them offering no major resistance, meaning that this battle is decisive for both sides.

Not to mention, General Wait-and-See Oliver and his fellow chickenhawks have been seething because they would've gotten crushed in the first battle had it not been for Hanlon's expert leadership of the Rangers and their strategy of luring the Legion into an ambush. So what do they do? Sabotage the Rangers at every opportunity oh also by the way Hanlon completely lost hope in the campaign and is pretty much gonna throw the rematch because he knows that NCReddit can't hold the Dam. There's also Colonel Hsu who is probably their only other competent commander and the NCRedditors sabotage him every opportunity they can.

 

[S3y88]

Are The Overseer's quest mods any good ?

 

[Meat Target]

While we're discussing a game whose community's opinions are 99% dogshit, it has come to my attention that Dead Money is disliked. Why?

Its environmental storytelling is brilliant. The themes of greed and incompetence mesh well with the gameplay. It's like a classic survival horror.

What's not to like? "Boo hoo hoo, it's TOO HARD!" To that I say:

 

[Friendly Primarina]

While we're discussing a game whose community's opinions are 99% dogshit, it has come to my attention that Dead Money is disliked. Why?

Its environmental storytelling is brilliant. The themes of greed and incompetence mesh well with the gameplay. It's like a classic survival horror.

What's not to like? "Boo hoo hoo, it's TOO HARD!" To that I say:
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DM's problem isn't that it's hard, it's that it's tedious and cheap. Trying to navigate the Villa is tedious. Trying to kill damage sponge enemies that jump around in a game with dogshit aiming is tedious. Turning a character hostile because you had the audacity to pass a speech check on your introduction is cheap. Forcing the player to run through a section of cloud and filling it will bear traps is cheap.

All in all, it just isn't a fun challenge. I may not be the target demographic. When I heard a speaker beeping my reaction was "fucks sake" not "OHSHITOHSHITOHSHI-" like the developers, by their own admission, intended.

 

[ColonelCadaver]

tedious and cheap

Indestructible speakers gauntlet can go fvck itself.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

The NCR military is dysfunctional in its efforts in the Mojave but it also provides a lot of infrastructure, education, relief programs and capital to the region as a whole.

I don't buy it

They're stretched thin as it is just holding Hoover Dam.

 

[Meat Target]

DM's problem isn't that it's hard, it's that it's tedious and cheap. Trying to navigate the Villa is tedious. Trying to kill damage sponge enemies that jump around in a game with dogshit aiming is tedious. Turning a character hostile because you had the audacity to pass a speech check on your introduction is cheap. Forcing the player to run through a section of cloud and filling it will bear traps is cheap.

All in all, it just isn't a fun challenge. I may not be the target demographic. When I heard a speaker beeping my reaction was "fucks sake" not "OHSHITOHSHITOHSHI-" like the developers, by their own admission, intended.

It becomes tolerable after a certain number of playthroughs.

I have shit upon a lot of NV fanboys for circlejerking over the writing, but now that I'm playing it again vanilla, I'm seeing how right they were.

The theme of "Begin again, but know when to let go" isn't just limited to Dead Money. It runs throughout the whole DLC and even the base game.

Spoiler: Sperging that's probably been established

• The NCR, like Biden's America, is a tired oligarchy with democratic trappings, feebly clinging to its waning possessions and credibility. It could be saved if it backed off and implemented some reforms, but won't out of pride and greed, which will be its ultimate undoing.
• The Legion, like Putin's Russia or Xi's China, is betting on being able to rule in perpetuity through cult of personality, lying to its population of ignorant tribals, and brutalizing dissidents. That can only go on for so long, before people get tired of it.
• Mr. House is clinging on to the shell of his beloved city's former self, and has kept himself alive unnaturally.
• Boone cannot move on with his life after having to mercy-kill his wife and child, and is consumed with anger and grief from Bitter Springs.
• Joshua Graham has successfully "begun again", by returning to God and repenting of his crimes as Legate. He cannot let go of his penchant for violence, so he has instead harnessed it to protect the innocent.
• The Think Tank have become Daniel Larson levels of delusional, and cannot consider any other reality.
• Ulysses can't let go of his obsession with the destruction of the Divide and his vengeance towards the Courier.
• The Courier has a choice: get revenge on Benny, or forgive him, possibly even team up with him.

As obnoxious as its community is, New Vegas is my favorite game of all time for a reason. Every time I come back to it, I notice something I hadn't before. A subtle-but-masterful stroke of brilliance.

I can tolerate janky, broken gameplay for that.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

I played as a techno-fetishist female Legion courier

Lol what? out of curiosity what was that characters reason for joining the legion?

Finished Old World Blues now, just missing Lonesome Road, but I'm gonna wrap up some of the faction quests before I play that. I agree that Dead Money felt tedious, the first time the collar beeped I did go "OHSHITSHITSHIT" but the 420th time it did my reaction was "FFS". Out if the three I've played I'd say its my least favorite, but it was still more enjoyable than the Amazon series.

 

[Meat Target]

the first time the collar beeped I did go "OHSHITSHITSHIT" but the 420th time it did my reaction was "FFS".

My biggest problem with it wasn't that. It was how easy it is to get lost and turned around. The low visibility makes it easy to miss items.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

My biggest problem with it wasn't that. It was how easy it is to get lost and turned around. The low visibility makes it easy to miss items.

Agreed on that, but since I have a pretty shit sense of direction I rarely complain about being easy to get lost since I just assume thats on me.