Fallout series

[A_Callow_Youth]

It makes more sense for Caesar to be the one to instigate it. Some random Legate doing that would probably get him removed from command, but if Caesar does it, it's alright. Especially if said woman in question assassinated Benny and House, blew out President Aaron Kimball's brains, wiped out a small army of power-armored Brotherhood paladins, saved Caesar from his brain tumor, and led the attack against the NCR army which led to General Lee Oliver retreating or getting killed. By that point, a woman has proven herself to be very useful to the Legion outside of being a baby-maker, to the point where Caesar puts her face on the coin.

Yeah, any final call is going to come from Caesar, but what I meant is that when the Legion sees a female courier doing courier shit, they're going to start thinking and talking about it, and at that point, Caesar's options are going to be to either roll with it and revise the rules, or start crucifying his troops by the truckload until they shut up. The fact that he spreads the Courier's face--and by extension, her story--on that coin heavily indicates that he plans to do the former. The Romans even had a goddess of war: Bellona, a rough equivalent to the Greek Athena, that Caesar could declare her the daughter of, to his own Son of Mars shtick.

I wouldn't put it past Caesar to allow the Courier and other strong women into the Legion after that. I also wouldn't be surprised if the female Courier ends up being his heir, after presumably getting married to Lanius, of course, so she can pop out a super-baby with Lanius' brawn and her brains, so that Caesar #3 will be an absolute fucking monster.

Going straight to a female head of state still feels like a bit of a stretch to me, though. I was leaning towards Caesar taking the Courier as his bride.

I can see why Caesar would do that, though. The cultural progress of humanity was reset, so Caesar is going back to old ways of ruling to keep the barbarians at bay, since they're not dealing with a civilized world, they live in the Dark Ages of their time, so Caesar is playing from a Dark Age warlord's playbook on how to pacify the world. Once the world has been pacified, they can return to more civil ways of running things, like how Caesar began to be more diplomatic once he sat on House's throne.

I don't think that the Legion is the best option for the Mojave (that would be using Yes Man to go full 1776), but I do understand his reasoning, and I can put a hell of an argument for the Legion together when I want to piss off somebody with a political understanding that doesn't extend past "DEMOGRAZY GUD".




EDIT: Have some Nexus cringe.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Yeah, any final call is going to come from Caesar, but what I meant is that when the Legion sees a female courier doing courier shit, they're going to start thinking and talking about it, and at that point, Caesar's options are going to be to either roll with it and revise the rules, or start crucifying his troops by the truckload until they shut up. The fact that he spreads the Courier's face--and by extension, her story--on that coin heavily indicates that he plans to do the former. The Romans even had a goddess of war: Bellona, a rough equivalent to the Greek Athena, that Caesar could declare her the daughter of, to his own Son of Mars shtick.

Which is why I can buy Caesar using a female Courier, but I can't buy the Frontier Legion Legate just bending the rules.

Going straight to a female head of state still feels like a bit of a stretch to me, though. I was leaning towards Caesar taking the Courier as his bride.

That, too. Although usually, people whose faces end up on the coin in the old Roman days usually are destined for Imperial rule.

I don't think that the Legion is the best option for the Mojave (that would be using Yes Man to go full 1776), but I do understand his reasoning, and I can put a hell of an argument for the Legion together when I want to piss off somebody with a political understanding that doesn't extend past "DEMOGRAZY GUD".

I usually think House is the best bet, unless the Courier is some kind of 300 IQ motherfucker who makes the kind of Xanatos Gambits that can put House to shame.

 

[King Ghidorah]

I don't think ceasar genuinely intends for lanius to be his successor especially given how he's more often described as a blunt instrument to be thrown at a particularly troublesome enemy to me means that he's only really a stopgap placeholder until an actually worthy successor comes along (aka a legion aligned courier who very quickly becomes a reliable right hand man who thanks to protagonist powers is basically a one man army and assasination proof)

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

I don't think ceasar genuinely intends for lanius to be his successor especially given how he's more often described as a blunt instrument to be thrown at a particularly troublesome enemy to me means that he's only really a stopgap placeholder until an actually worthy successor comes along (aka a legion aligned courier who very quickly becomes a reliable right hand man who thanks to protagonist powers is basically a one man army and assasination proof)

Agreed, particularly since everyone's reaction to Caesar dying is essentially "oh, shit, that means Lanius is probably going to take over". I doubt that Caesar even had an actual appointed successor, and Lanius kind of just takes over because everyone else either knows that they're not qualified or is terrified of fighting Lanius for the big chair.

 

[King Ghidorah]

Agreed, particularly since everyone's reaction to Caesar dying is essentially "oh, shit, that means Lanius is probably going to take over". I doubt that Caesar even had an actual appointed successor, and Lanius kind of just takes over because everyone else either knows that they're not qualified or is terrified of fighting Lanius for the big chair.

he'd probably lose but Lucius could at least give him a run for his money or Vulpes could simply use his role as spymaster to quietly arrange an unfortunate accident if he really put his mind to it

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I don't think ceasar genuinely intends for lanius to be his successor especially given how he's more often described as a blunt instrument to be thrown at a particularly troublesome enemy to me means that he's only really a stopgap placeholder until an actually worthy successor comes along (aka a legion aligned courier who very quickly becomes a reliable right hand man who thanks to protagonist powers is basically a one man army and assasination proof)

That's exactly what I was guessing. That whole "put this person's face on the coin" stunt was Caesar telling the world that the Courier is the official continuation of his legacy. And the Courier is the perfect candidate, after having been educated on the ins and outs of the Legion by Caesar himself. After the Courier assassinated House and Kimball, as well as eradicated both the NCR forces and the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel, the Courier would have one hell of a resume, and no one would question the Courier's right to lead in light of those great deeds.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

he'd probably lose but Lucius could at least give him a run for his money or Vulpes could simply use his role as spymaster to quietly arrange an unfortunate accident if he really put his mind to it

He could, but he also knows that he doesn't have the charisma to hold the Legion together. Their best bet is probably to try playing kingmaker with Lucius.

Then again, 99% of scenarios where Caesar dies also end up with the both of them dead as well.

 

[Syaoran Li]

One of my favorite New Vegas playthroughs was as a female Courier who worked for the Legion and I intentionally put points into the Medicine skill to save Caesar. I'm thinking about starting up the PS3 and doing it a second time but also doing Lonesome Road to nuke the NCR while sparing the Legion.

My personal headcanon for that playthrough is that after Caesar's victory at Hoover Dam, he begins to issue reforms within Legion society and makes the Lucky 38 into an imperial palace.

As one of the reforms, Caesar personally hand-picks the Courier to be part of a Triumvirate alongside Lucius and Lanius to succeed him after he dies.

A decade or so after the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, Lanius dies in combat against NCR forces and Caesar passes away peacefully in his sleep. The Courier appoints Vulpes Inculta to fill Lanius's spot on the Triumvirate and eventually she becomes a de facto empress and the Augustus Caesar to Edward Sallow's Julius Caesar, with her ties to Caesar alongside Vulpes and Lucius more or less legitimizing her leadership.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

One of my favorite New Vegas playthroughs was as a female Courier who worked for the Legion and I intentionally put points into the Medicine skill to save Caesar. I'm thinking about starting up the PS3 and doing it a second time but also doing Lonesome Road to nuke the NCR while sparing the Legion.

My personal headcanon for that playthrough is that after Caesar's victory at Hoover Dam, he begins to issue reforms within Legion society and makes the Lucky 38 into an imperial palace.

As one of the reforms, Caesar personally hand-picks the Courier to be part of a Triumvirate alongside Lucius and Lanius to succeed him after he dies.

A decade or so after the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, Lanius dies in combat against NCR forces and Caesar passes away peacefully in his sleep. The Courier appoints Vulpes Inculta to fill Lanius's spot on the Triumvirate and eventually she becomes a de facto empress and the Augustus Caesar to Edward Sallow's Julius Caesar, with her ties to Caesar alongside Vulpes and Lucius more or less legitimizing her leadership.

who does she ship with?

 

[King Ghidorah]

one of my ideas for a legion character was a bitter enclave remnant who joins Caesar to spite the ncr and become a sort of "monster of the west" to compliment lanius

 

[Syaoran Li]

who does she ship with?

Vulpes Inculta, and their wedding is actually made into an imperial festival. This also helps solidify her rule even further.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

I think the Legion is less "Hollywood Rome" and more "Cherrypicked Rome".
Caesar (Edward Sallow) quite obviously has more than the superficial understanding of Caesar and Rome that a Hollywood film would leave you with, even stating that he had read the works of Gaius Julius himself. But the problem here, I think, is that he doesn't want the entirety of Roman culture, only the parts that he thinks work.
He likes the idea of an Emperor, but I doubt he likes the idea of a Senate because that would limit his own power.
He likes the idea of slavery, but doesn't like the idea of Legionaries who are given a choice on whether or not to join the Legion.

It seems any time Roman ideals conflict with what Caesar thinks is the most pragmatic, the ideals of Rome will lose out.

 

[CWCissey]

I don't really think that Sallow is even 100% behind his own vision and that this is evidenced by his spiel about Hegelian Dialectics.

The Legion is only intended as an antithesis to the NCR's thesis, and he's hoping to batter Commiefornia just to 'meet in the middle' ( cherrypick) and create the synthesis he wants.

Which basically would be Mr. House ( strong autocratic leader with a decent tech base)

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I don't really think that Sallow is even 100% behind his own vision and that this is evidenced by his spiel about Hegelian Dialectics.

The Legion is only intended as an antithesis to the NCR's thesis, and he's hoping to batter Commiefornia just to 'meet in the middle' ( cherrypick) and create the synthesis he wants.

Which basically would be Mr. House ( strong autocratic leader with a decent tech base)

That's why I usually pick House in most runs, since he's the best of both worlds. Unless of course, I'm RP'ing the Courier as some kind of 300 IQ motherfucker who has plans within plans, then I upstage House and take Vegas for myself, so I can be the synthesis between the NCR and the Legion.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

So long as some people are autistically sharing their playthrough headcanons I might as well share my own. Keep in mind that mine involves my TTW runs wherein the Lone Wanderer and Courier 6 are the same. And I use a bunch of other mods that add functionality the game should realistically have had, like the ability to repair and reprogram robots. And a truck.
Oh, and I'm not putting shit in chronological order.

Spoiler: Long as Fuck

I generally do a good guy playthrough siding with the BoS while donating tech to the Outcasts for the goodies. I exterminate the Raiders in the Pitt with a twist, I leave the mom alive by knocking her out and using a mod that lets me tie people up. Then I sort of drag her along while clearing out the area of raiders and trogs. Figured that'd be the best way to get a cure while also smashing the shit out of the slaver scum. I save the slaves and purge Paradise falls, but not before buying Clover because why the fuck not. The Lincoln Memorial is also secured. Megaton is saved, Tenpenny Tower remains Ghoul free because fuck you Roy Philips bigotry is not a crime worthy of death and besides Herbert Dashwood was no bigot you lying zombie faggot! Vault 101 is allowed to remain closed for awhile with Amata as overseer.

The entire reason the LW goes out west is on assignment from Elder Lyons to make contact with the California Brotherhood and update them on the Enclave and 87 Mutie situations. Star Paladin Cross accompanies him, as do his trusted servant/soldier Charon, his bodyguard/slave Clover, his good pal Fawkes, and his beloved doggo.
Learning of the NCR-Brotherhood war from the western Elders and believing it to be folly on the Brotherhood's part the LW and Cross were released from service from the Western Brotherhood on their own request.

So the LW does what any bored wasteland hero and his gang does, he starts wandering around and working, eventually making his way to the Mojave where he gets a job as a courier until being blammed in the head by Benny.

When I discovered the town of Nipton and I was enraged as hell, my first impression of the Legion being just another band of murderous thugs to put down. I slaughtered Incultes and his men, mercifully put the crucified out of their misery, then followed the rest of the bastards to their camp. Discovering the enslaved powder gangers, I rescued them (even though I already pissed of their gang when I led the people of Goodsprings against them. Still, noone deserves this shit.) and put down the Legionaries there having developed a decided distaste for the bastards.
I eventually came to the Fort and assassinated Caesar and most of his bodyguard before shooting my way out and running like a motherfucker.
At the battle of the Dam I would kill Lanius in single combat, sword to sword. Once I'd cast him down I would declare myself the true son of Mars and issue my ultimatum to the legion:
Sumbit or perish, submit and thrive. All your base are belong to me!

Working primarily for the NCR throughout my travels, often completely unasked, I eventually betrays them at Hoover Dam using the Securitron army, my own private army of reprogrammed robots amassed in my travels, and a rather large collection of loyal followers.
But the betrayal isn't quite what you'd think. The Lone Wandering Courier of legend agrees to allow New Vegas to be annexed into the NCR on several conditions:
1: I am to be installed as lifetime governor of New Vegas and cannot be removed under anything but emergency circumstances such as proof of treason.
2: The area known as Zion is to be granted its full sovereignty and exempted from any NCR expansion.
3: The city of New Vegas itself is to be the sole property of both the Courier and Robert House.
4: The Boomers are to be given total sovereignty over Nellis.
5: I am named the official ambassador to the Brotherhood of Steel.
6: The Great Khans are to be left alone and allowed to live as they see fit within the confines of their canyon.
7: Amnesty is to be offered to all Enclave remnants. They may be required to register with the NCR and turn over any Enclave equipment they have remaining.
8: The settlement of Jacobstown remains it's own community under Marcus. Super mutants are to be allowed to peaceably settle there.
9: The current deal of 95% power to the NCR and 5% to the Strip remains, but Helios One will now exclusively provide power to New Vegas' needs.
10: New Vegas is allowed to form it's own army which is technically part of the NCR but also technically not. The Courier will act as commander in chief of this force.

House I would keep alive, despite taking the Yes Man route. I would use my big brain science knowledge to find a way to keep the power to his life support pod active and keep it closed, but I would terminate his connection to all outside data points which would allow me to install Yes Man into the Lucky 38 and proceed with my plans.
Once all was said and done I would sit down for a little chat with House, telling him that much of his plan was agreeable to me, but other parts were not and his refusal to bend necessitated a hostile takeover. He's a businessman, surely he understands
I would renegotiate the terms of our relationship, demanding full partnership in the affairs of the Strip and a cut of the profits. House can have his high tech sector, but I have my own plans that also need financing and a base of operations. House would still get the lions share of the money flowing into Vegas, but I'm taking 10% for my own uses.

The Brotherhood and NCR would have their truce under Elder McNamara, but I would use my knowledge of McNamara violating the chain of command to blackmail him into doing as I say. Namely that when Hardin eventually suffers an unfortunate accident that will inevitably be labeled as an equipment malfunction my good friend Star Paladin Cross will be assigned to take his place given her ranking in Lyons Pride. The hardliners will be reassigned to duties outide the bunker, scavenging tech from far away locations that keep them out of our hair for good stretches of time, with some of the most hard headed perhaps not returning from their dangerous assignments.
The more progressive elements would be allowed to flourish under my own influence, as well as that of Veronica who I would have encouraged to stay, and Cross. The Mojave Brotherhood would return to Maxsonian ideals and become more like the Lyons Pride.
Eventually I would set my sights on reforming the rest of the western Brotherhood, but that's a campaign for another time.

Freeside would be incorporated into New Vegas, with new casinos and businesses encouraged to open in the abundantly available abandoned buildings. Cerulian Robotics would become my personal robot manufactury to bolster my forces.
The Kings would be given the role of Freeside Police, with new weapons and combat armor supplied from the Gun Runners with my own money.

The Followers would be encouraged to found a research institute under House, as well as being proded to open a proper hospital in Freeside with regional clinics at every major settlement.

The Fiends of Vault 3 would be completely and ruthlessly exterminated without mercy. The Vault would be retaken, refurbished, and reserved as an emergency shelter as intended.
All raiders in the Mojave are going to be hunted down like dogs and given absolutely no fucking quarter.

I would encourage the NCR to offer some quarter to surrendering Powder Gangers, though those who do not take this offer are to be executed.

Father Elijah I would trap in the basement of the Sierra Madre, leaving him the chips he needs to run that fucking replicator. I would eventually come back (because my ass you can't find your way back. You have a goddamn map making computer on your arm!), dig him out, and enslave the old fuck. I'm gonna stick him in a goddamn lab and make him do science or I use a slave collar to blow his fucking head off.
Dean Domino I just shoot in the face. Fuck that prick.
Christine I would eventually try to convince to come back with me because someone is waiting for her. They can finally be together. The Sierra Madre will be fine, my own forces will secure it and it will be plundered for the tech and eventually demolished with bombs.

Speaking of bombs.
The Boomers I would leave be, mostly. They owe me, tho. I want them to be the founding members of the New Vegas Air Force if they'll agree to it. I would give them plenty of savages to bomb.
Oh, and I would indeed nuke Dry Wells during Lonesome road because FUUUUCK YOOOOU!

The Think tank I would convince to stay where they are, but I have use for their kooky mad science! So many puzzles to solve in this new world, so many challenges, so many ways to ethically apply science! And maybe they could become part of my institute! Remote access to Big MT could be established to allow them to coordinate and collaborate with other scientists to benefit mankind.

The Remnants would be allowed to retire in honor, heroes of the Mojave. Those who choose to do so can join my personal army, an army dedicated to protecting people from the dangers of the waste and making America great again! The New Vegas Armed Forces. (technically a subsidiary of but not necessarily answerable to the NCR Army)

Eventually I would incorporate former Legion territory into my own through force if need be, though as the guy who killed both Caesar and Lanius I probably just get to claim right of succession through might and fuck anyone who says otherwise. And hopefully Lucius appreciates that I spared his ass when I killed Caesar and backs my play. I could use men like him. Honorable men.
Either way, the New Vegas Army would take the area and absorb the rehabilitated Legion remnants, then simply hold that territory as a state of the NCR while still enacting the same ruthless justice the Legion did on any raiders who are caught there, though the laws would be changed to be less restrictive and allow a lot more freedoms.

Pretty good way to start my political career, doncha think?

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

So long as some people are autistically sharing their playthrough headcanons I might as well share my own. Keep in mind that mine involves my TTW runs wherein the Lone Wanderer and Courier 6 are the same. And I use a bunch of other mods that add functionality the game should realistically have had, like the ability to repair and reprogram robots. And a truck.
Oh, and I'm not putting shit in chronological order.

Spoiler: Long as Fuck

I generally do a good guy playthrough siding with the BoS while donating tech to the Outcasts for the goodies. I exterminate the Raiders in the Pitt with a twist, I leave the mom alive by knocking her out and using a mod that lets me tie people up. Then I sort of drag her along while clearing out the area of raiders and trogs. Figured that'd be the best way to get a cure while also smashing the shit out of the slaver scum. I save the slaves and purge Paradise falls, but not before buying Clover because why the fuck not. The Lincoln Memorial is also secured. Megaton is saved, Tenpenny Tower remains Ghoul free because fuck you Roy Philips bigotry is not a crime worthy of death and besides Herbert Dashwood was no bigot you lying zombie faggot! Vault 101 is allowed to remain closed for awhile with Amata as overseer.

The entire reason the LW goes out west is on assignment from Elder Lyons to make contact with the California Brotherhood and update them on the Enclave and 87 Mutie situations. Star Paladin Cross accompanies him, as do his trusted servant/soldier Charon, his bodyguard/slave Clover, his good pal Fawkes, and his beloved doggo.
Learning of the NCR-Brotherhood war from the western Elders and believing it to be folly on the Brotherhood's part the LW and Cross were released from service from the Western Brotherhood on their own request.

So the LW does what any bored wasteland hero and his gang does, he starts wandering around and working, eventually making his way to the Mojave where he gets a job as a courier until being blammed in the head by Benny.

When I discovered the town of Nipton and I was enraged as hell, my first impression of the Legion being just another band of murderous thugs to put down. I slaughtered Incultes and his men, mercifully put the crucified out of their misery, then followed the rest of the bastards to their camp. Discovering the enslaved powder gangers, I rescued them (even though I already pissed of their gang when I led the people of Goodsprings against them. Still, noone deserves this shit.) and put down the Legionaries there having developed a decided distaste for the bastards.
I eventually came to the Fort and assassinated Caesar and most of his bodyguard before shooting my way out and running like a motherfucker.
At the battle of the Dam I would kill Lanius in single combat, sword to sword. Once I'd cast him down I would declare myself the true son of Mars and issue my ultimatum to the legion:
Sumbit or perish, submit and thrive. All your base are belong to me!

Working primarily for the NCR throughout my travels, often completely unasked, I eventually betrays them at Hoover Dam using the Securitron army, my own private army of reprogrammed robots amassed in my travels, and a rather large collection of loyal followers.
But the betrayal isn't quite what you'd think. The Lone Wandering Courier of legend agrees to allow New Vegas to be annexed into the NCR on several conditions:
1: I am to be installed as lifetime governor of New Vegas and cannot be removed under anything but emergency circumstances such as proof of treason.
2: The area known as Zion is to be granted its full sovereignty and exempted from any NCR expansion.
3: The city of New Vegas itself is to be the sole property of both the Courier and Robert House.
4: The Boomers are to be given total sovereignty over Nellis.
5: I am named the official ambassador to the Brotherhood of Steel.
6: The Great Khans are to be left alone and allowed to live as they see fit within the confines of their canyon.
7: Amnesty is to be offered to all Enclave remnants. They may be required to register with the NCR and turn over any Enclave equipment they have remaining.
8: The settlement of Jacobstown remains it's own community under Marcus. Super mutants are to be allowed to peaceably settle there.
9: The current deal of 95% power to the NCR and 5% to the Strip remains, but Helios One will now exclusively provide power to New Vegas' needs.
10: New Vegas is allowed to form it's own army which is technically part of the NCR but also technically not. The Courier will act as commander in chief of this force.

House I would keep alive, despite taking the Yes Man route. I would use my big brain science knowledge to find a way to keep the power to his life support pod active and keep it closed, but I would terminate his connection to all outside data points which would allow me to install Yes Man into the Lucky 38 and proceed with my plans.
Once all was said and done I would sit down for a little chat with House, telling him that much of his plan was agreeable to me, but other parts were not and his refusal to bend necessitated a hostile takeover. He's a businessman, surely he understands
I would renegotiate the terms of our relationship, demanding full partnership in the affairs of the Strip and a cut of the profits. House can have his high tech sector, but I have my own plans that also need financing and a base of operations. House would still get the lions share of the money flowing into Vegas, but I'm taking 10% for my own uses.

The Brotherhood and NCR would have their truce under Elder McNamara, but I would use my knowledge of McNamara violating the chain of command to blackmail him into doing as I say. Namely that when Hardin eventually suffers an unfortunate accident that will inevitably be labeled as an equipment malfunction my good friend Star Paladin Cross will be assigned to take his place given her ranking in Lyons Pride. The hardliners will be reassigned to duties outide the bunker, scavenging tech from far away locations that keep them out of our hair for good stretches of time, with some of the most hard headed perhaps not returning from their dangerous assignments.
The more progressive elements would be allowed to flourish under my own influence, as well as that of Veronica who I would have encouraged to stay, and Cross. The Mojave Brotherhood would return to Maxsonian ideals and become more like the Lyons Pride.
Eventually I would set my sights on reforming the rest of the western Brotherhood, but that's a campaign for another time.

Freeside would be incorporated into New Vegas, with new casinos and businesses encouraged to open in the abundantly available abandoned buildings. Cerulian Robotics would become my personal robot manufactury to bolster my forces.
The Kings would be given the role of Freeside Police, with new weapons and combat armor supplied from the Gun Runners with my own money.

The Followers would be encouraged to found a research institute under House, as well as being proded to open a proper hospital in Freeside with regional clinics at every major settlement.

The Fiends of Vault 3 would be completely and ruthlessly exterminated without mercy. The Vault would be retaken, refurbished, and reserved as an emergency shelter as intended.
All raiders in the Mojave are going to be hunted down like dogs and given absolutely no fucking quarter.

I would encourage the NCR to offer some quarter to surrendering Powder Gangers, though those who do not take this offer are to be executed.

Father Elijah I would trap in the basement of the Sierra Madre, leaving him the chips he needs to run that fucking replicator. I would eventually come back (because my ass you can't find your way back. You have a goddamn map making computer on your arm!), dig him out, and enslave the old fuck. I'm gonna stick him in a goddamn lab and make him do science or I use a slave collar to blow his fucking head off.
Dean Domino I just shoot in the face. Fuck that prick.
Christine I would eventually try to convince to come back with me because someone is waiting for her. They can finally be together. The Sierra Madre will be fine, my own forces will secure it and it will be plundered for the tech and eventually demolished with bombs.

Speaking of bombs.
The Boomers I would leave be, mostly. They owe me, tho. I want them to be the founding members of the New Vegas Air Force if they'll agree to it. I would give them plenty of savages to bomb.
Oh, and I would indeed nuke Dry Wells during Lonesome road because FUUUUCK YOOOOU!

The Think tank I would convince to stay where they are, but I have use for their kooky mad science! So many puzzles to solve in this new world, so many challenges, so many ways to ethically apply science! And maybe they could become part of my institute! Remote access to Big MT could be established to allow them to coordinate and collaborate with other scientists to benefit mankind.

The Remnants would be allowed to retire in honor, heroes of the Mojave. Those who choose to do so can join my personal army, an army dedicated to protecting people from the dangers of the waste and making America great again! The New Vegas Armed Forces. (technically a subsidiary of but not necessarily answerable to the NCR Army)

Eventually I would incorporate former Legion territory into my own through force if need be, though as the guy who killed both Caesar and Lanius I probably just get to claim right of succession through might and fuck anyone who says otherwise. And hopefully Lucius appreciates that I spared his ass when I killed Caesar and backs my play. I could use men like him. Honorable men.
Either way, the New Vegas Army would take the area and absorb the rehabilitated Legion remnants, then simply hold that territory as a state of the NCR while still enacting the same ruthless justice the Legion did on any raiders who are caught there, though the laws would be changed to be less restrictive and allow a lot more freedoms.

Pretty good way to start my political career, doncha think?

Oh, shit, you're going to make me finish the epilogue I've been putting off writing for years.

 

[TVStactic]

Yeah, any final call is going to come from Caesar, but what I meant is that when the Legion sees a female courier doing courier shit, they're going to start thinking and talking about it, and at that point, Caesar's options are going to be to either roll with it and revise the rules, or start crucifying his troops by the truckload until they shut up. The fact that he spreads the Courier's face--and by extension, her story--on that coin heavily indicates that he plans to do the former. The Romans even had a goddess of war: Bellona, a rough equivalent to the Greek Athena, that Caesar could declare her the daughter of, to his own Son of Mars shtick.

Going straight to a female head of state still feels like a bit of a stretch to me, though. I was leaning towards Caesar taking the Courier as his bride.

I don't think that the Legion is the best option for the Mojave (that would be using Yes Man to go full 1776), but I do understand his reasoning, and I can put a hell of an argument for the Legion together when I want to piss off somebody with a political understanding that doesn't extend past "DEMOGRAZY GUD".

EDIT: Have some Nexus cringe.

ew no, caesar is bald and fat so my femcourier wouldn't have sex with him.

more likely he could push femcourier to lanius or his 3rd in command that stays on the tent once you make the autodoc to a brain removal on caesar? a bit of a dead wall though since lanius only cares about killing as Alcatraz noticed too and the 3rd in command looks like a whimp which would be dogpiled by lanius any time of the day, however caesar using one wahmen's face on the coin towards his legion considering how they treat them can be seen as him trying to get in courier's good graces within a degree (it can also as you guys said, signify succession but with a femcourier that's nigh unlikely and one can only speculate until obisidian releases FNV2), like "oh imma give you the highest honor here mf so you better not fail me like josh", similar to how house still allows you to live on the lucky38 post his ending while it's implied you still do non-courier shticks to him, obisidian's writing is similar to old fallouts so canonically things are supposed to be "good", meaning legion gets rekt, house operates the lucky 38 but the courier doesn't get on NCR's bad side and generally good-align people get helped while the bad people get rekt, also since they are BOSfags veronica's house probably remains intact with the chapter being neutral to house, the rest of the companions can be either taken as neutral/never found or "friend quests done"

Agreed, particularly since everyone's reaction to Caesar dying is essentially "oh, shit, that means Lanius is probably going to take over". I doubt that Caesar even had an actual appointed successor, and Lanius kind of just takes over because everyone else either knows that they're not qualified or is terrified of fighting Lanius for the big chair.

nazeem, ops, vulpes (granted he isn't made ded) had a voice impact regarding that once you ask him about the future and if i'm not mistaken some dialogues implies that lanius's desire for violence will weaken the legion by killing too much before they can refill, including getting rid of the frumentarii which is crucial for legion precision striking because he likes rubbing himself against his enemies.

So long as some people are autistically sharing their playthrough headcanons I might as well share my own. Keep in mind that mine involves my TTW runs wherein the Lone Wanderer and Courier 6 are the same. And I use a bunch of other mods that add functionality the game should realistically have had, like the ability to repair and reprogram robots. And a truck.
Oh, and I'm not putting shit in chronological order.

no thanks, i'm good. reminds me of the fandom headcanon for deus ex 1, oh god, the flashbacks...

it's also implied in the game that nightkin cure is never found and marcus leaves the mutant town someday too so he'll continue to be the wander he always was from FO2, settling down here and there for a few years until eventually his stance on being somewhat neutral ends up allowing mutantkin to screw with his plans. I Am Weasel being weaseled out by one digit IQ mutants... oh, hopefully Beth and Obisidian being under the same place will get us some nice things for FO5, at minimum i hope godd todd stops being a lil bitch about pulling emotional cards on the player, i want a grey world where characters don't give a shit if they are right or wrong, they have their morals and beliefs which they might tell you if you don't anger them and doesn't have 1 INT... you know, like in old fallouts, also multiple endings too because i may want to ROLEPLAY helping the "bad guy".

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

it's also implied in the game that nightkin cure is never found and marcus leaves the mutant town someday too so he'll continue to be the wander he always was from FO2, settling down here and there for a few years until eventually his stance on being somewhat neutral ends up allowing mutantkin to screw with his plans.

Actually, if you manage to complete the quest "Guess who I saw today" by convincing Lily to continue the experiments (or passing a science check with Doc Henry), and convince Keene to stay at the end, and Marcus lives, they do eventually find a cure for the Nightkin and Jacobstown becomes a prospering refuge for supermutants.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

AMERICA!? SHE TURNED 18 ALMOST A YEAR AGO YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH!

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Anyway, I found myself scrolling through the back pages of the Nexus when I stumbled across this. What appeared at first to be a "lighthearted" joke quest about killing young Maxon then derailed into a mess of political spergery and a literal hit list of all the "fascists" in Fallouts 3 and NV. They also linked their podcast, which I'm not going to touch with a ten-foot pole tonight.